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Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭Tags


    Some of you might remember my post about running away to a foreign land in order to escape my problems and generally improve my lot. Looked into it last night and turns out it's not as simple as I once thought due to the fact that I don't have any skills or qualifications. I feel a bit pissed off about that but also mad at myself for messing up my life so much. Starting to feel a bit trapped now and this is only adding to the anxiety. **** it anyway :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    That's ok Plumeria. I just found when I went to a psychologist that it was a bit wishy-washy, in that, it was very much a case of "you say what you're thinking, and we'll explore it. But you have to say everything you're thinking, you can't hide anything".
    Now I know that's their method, and that's fine.It just didn't suit me to be honest. I had a problem - anxiety - founded on irrational fears. I knew they were irrational.I just didn't know how to stop the panic attacks and obsessive thinking. Aimlessly exploring random statements that I made was not helping me. A counsellor helped more because she basically said right, you have anxiety issues - we'll try and find out where they come from and teach you how to cope with them. For me, that was far more effective. But then, that's just the type of person that I am. Also I didn't have any deep-rooted issues in my past, so I literally ran out of things to talk about to the psychologist eventually.

    I'm not pushing the counsellor by the way, I'm just comparing my experiences with what you're saying.I do think she's charging you an awful lot of money for her services given the times we are in, and compared to my experience of what her colleagues are offering. I would also say though, that you need to give these things time, you're not going to come out feeling like you'll be ok from week 1.If anything, I found the sessions made the obsessive thinking worse, because I was going home and mulling (endlessly) over what had been discussed, and what I "should" have said. What I didn't realise at the time was that it was forcing me to look at myself and my life in a different way - through somebody else's eyes, so to speak - and made me realise a few things about myself. And then...the mulling over eased off after a few weeks, and I realised that maybe I wasn't as bad as I thought.

    I still have moments (get to that in a sec!), but she definitely helped me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Sorry for double posting but I need a little rant.

    So....why does life feel so hard sometimes?! I go along most days ok, then the odd time it's like this abyss of darkness opens up in front of me, and threatens to completely overwhelm me. Where I'm looking at being completely overcome by terror, fear, hysteria, tears and panic. Over what, I just don't know. But that's literally how it's visualised in my head - a darkness, filled with panic and tears, where I want to lie in bed all day long and hide.Sometimes it nearly entices me - in a whole "it'd be so much easier to just come in here than to keep fighting" kind of a way (not suicide or anything, just panic and worrying).

    And what I can see of it, is related to my OH.Worry about the future. Stupid stuff - what if he dies, what if I wake up one morning and realise I don't love him, what if I really DON'T love him and I'm making the biggest mistake of my life (8 years later!), what if he cheats, what if I cheat, what if we fight all the time and have to divorce, what if I'm never REALLY happy with him, how do I know I'm happy, what if I'm not truly happy on our wedding day....on and on and on and on. It's soul destroying.I want so badly to be happy - to go back to the relaxed person I was before I became unemployed, the one who enjoyed her life to the full, and felt like the luckiest person alive when I was with my OH. Why can't I be that person again ALL the time - not just some of time? And why can't I find a job?

    I'm sorry, I needed a little rant. Part of me just so badly wants to leave this country and start fresh somewhere else, with my OH, somewhere that's not negative and depressing and doesn't feel like a dead end. It's very hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    BanzaiBk, I can understand the bitterness thing :( I'm sorry you're having a bad time. Is your psych helping you?

    Tags, please don't think you've messed your life up. You have time to improve your situation. Do you get any help? Sorry if you've said already..
    What I didn't realise at the time was that it was forcing me to look at myself and my life in a different way - through somebody else's eyes, so to speak - and made me realise a few things about myself. And then...the mulling over eased off after a few weeks, and I realised that maybe I wasn't as bad as I thought.
    True. It was a new experience to get an objective opinion on my life. Maybe even the simple fact of saying things out loud makes a difference. I told the psychiatrist stuff about my childhood that I had never told anyone in real life. And I burst into tears after I had said it. She asked me if the memory was upsetting, and I said no, it just feels so weird to say it out loud.

    I don't have the image of an abyss the way you do, but yeah I can relate to the dread that I'm going to be overwhelmed by bad feelings.

    For me there's usually some small trigger. The smallest thing can make me want to jump off a bridge. I can't cope with those feelings, so I avoid almost everything that might hurt me.. and that's a ton of stuff.

    Is your OH understanding about things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    So much more understanding than I deserve somedays...I'm the luckiest girl on earth really, he cares so much given that I have such a complex about him!Most guys would probably run a mile from me.

    I know how it feels to say stuff out loud that you've never said before....it's overwhelming.Then the next few times you say it, it becomes less of a big deal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    So much more understanding than I deserve somedays...I'm the luckiest girl on earth really, he cares so much given that I have such a complex about him!Most guys would probably run a mile from me.

    I know how it feels to say stuff out loud that you've never said before....it's overwhelming.Then the next few times you say it, it becomes less of a big deal.

    That's great that he's great :) My one real friend is very understanding too. He has problems with anxiety too, which explains some of his compassion, but my moods are way more erratic than his. I'm way more of a pain in the a** than him basically.
    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭margarite


    I've suffered from mild - moderate depression and anxiety for 10 years but have been making good progress in the past two years with mindfulness and CBT.
    What is CBT?


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭margarite


    Sorry for double posting but I need a little rant.

    So....why does life feel so hard sometimes?! I go along most days ok, then the odd time it's like this abyss of darkness opens up in front of me, and threatens to completely overwhelm me. Where I'm looking at being completely overcome by terror, fear, hysteria, tears and panic. Over what, I just don't know. But that's literally how it's visualised in my head - a darkness, filled with panic and tears, where I want to lie in bed all day long and hide.Sometimes it nearly entices me - in a whole "it'd be so much easier to just come in here than to keep fighting" kind of a way (not suicide or anything, just panic and worrying).

    And what I can see of it, is related to my OH.Worry about the future. Stupid stuff - what if he dies, what if I wake up one morning and realise I don't love him, what if I really DON'T love him and I'm making the biggest mistake of my life (8 years later!), what if he cheats, what if I cheat, what if we fight all the time and have to divorce, what if I'm never REALLY happy with him, how do I know I'm happy, what if I'm not truly happy on our wedding day....on and on and on and on. It's soul destroying.I want so badly to be happy - to go back to the relaxed person I was before I became unemployed, the one who enjoyed her life to the full, and felt like the luckiest person alive when I was with my OH. Why can't I be that person again ALL the time - not just some of time? And why can't I find a job?

    I'm sorry, I needed a little rant. Part of me just so badly wants to leave this country and start fresh somewhere else, with my OH, somewhere that's not negative and depressing and doesn't feel like a dead end. It's very hard.
    Firstly what is OH, getting married, moving house are some of the most stressful times of your life, adding losing your job makes it more stressful, on my wedding day I was grand until I saw my future (and now) husband licking his lips with nerves, I nearly changed my mind, luckly I did not. Take one thing at a time. When is the wedding? PM me back if you want ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Plumeria


    Registered the name, just because I'm tired of squinting to read the captcha words, though I don't know how frequently I'll end up posting in here.

    I watched a great Youtube video last night and wanted to share it. It's an old video clip from the 'Up' documentary series, and this clip looks at the life of Neil Hughes from the age of seven to 49.

    Just a fantastic reminder that a life can really change.

    The video is under 5 minutes; give it a watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcMWAWaXWhg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    That's great how far he came,seems a really intelligent and articulate man too,gives me a glimmer of hope that I might turn into a normal functioning person.

    Having another crap day myself,had a blazing argument with my dad who basicaly told me to snap out of it and do something with myself.Does he not think that I've already tried that??Does he think that I like living basically like a recluse?!Jesus like.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭margarite


    phi3 wrote: »
    No get up every morning and go to work.Things are actually fairly hectic just don't involve many other people. I mean there's people at work but I don't really talk to them.

    I saw from a previous member that they go into work and see these people that are go getters, super confident, that was me, but it was all an act. Sometimes we have to inject some nice things into our lives, that will up to what ever you want to do. Plan some treats for yourself, things that you like to do and your life will not seem so upsetting. Please try this it works for me. Take care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭BanzaiBk


    Plumeria wrote: »
    BanzaiBk, I can understand the bitterness thing :( I'm sorry you're having a bad time. Is your psych helping you?

    Thanks Plumeria. I have a great psych I think, which is lucky. I was sectioned some moons ago so I'm in the public patient system. She's going to send me for cognitive therapy in April so she's pretty good at trying things out. I think that's the CBT that alias referred to.

    I'm currently taking part in a mindfulness course via South Lee psych. care and find it fantastic. I'd really recommend it for people who suffer from anxiety and self-loathing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Plumeria


    BanzaiBk wrote: »
    Thanks Plumeria. I have a great psych I think, which is lucky. I was sectioned some moons ago so I'm in the public patient system. She's going to send me for cognitive therapy in April so she's pretty good at trying things out. I think that's the CBT that alias referred to.

    I'm currently taking part in a mindfulness course via South Lee psych. care and find it fantastic. I'd really recommend it for people who suffer from anxiety and self-loathing.

    My psych has never mentioned CBT to me, although I've read a little bit about it. I've heard it described as the best (maybe only) solution for people with social anxiety in particular. Glad you have found a helpful course. I must admit I fear the idea of doing courses, because of the group situation it entails. Do you attend 'classes' or how does it work?
    That's great how far he came,seems a really intelligent and articulate man too,gives me a glimmer of hope that I might turn into a normal functioning person.

    Having another crap day myself,had a blazing argument with my dad who basicaly told me to snap out of it and do something with myself.Does he not think that I've already tried that??Does he think that I like living basically like a recluse?!Jesus like.

    Does he often say things like that? It's most likely just out of concern, even though it only succeeds in making you feel worse.
    People tend to get very frustrated when they have no solution for someone they love, and the frustration can make them blurt out the wrong things.

    Though it's true that a lot of people seem to think we're simply refusing to change because we are apparently having such great craic with our mental health issues.
    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭BanzaiBk


    Plumeria wrote: »
    My psych has never mentioned CBT to me, although I've read a little bit about it. I've heard it described as the best (maybe only) solution for people with social anxiety in particular. Glad you have found a helpful course. I must admit I fear the idea of doing courses, because of the group situation it entails. Do you attend 'classes' or how does it work?

    Yup it's a group setting. There are 8 people attending including myself. Tbh the first day every one of us were uncomfortable and nervous. We got used to each other though and feel quite at ease in the group now which is great. The "instructor" is great too, aware of the implications of having 8 people in a group who are awful at social interaction :o

    On my bad weeks it takes all my energy to force myself to go to the class (just under 3 hours long, once a week) but it's worth it. I know it's hard for some of the others too, about half of us have chronic anxiety/social anxiety.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Plumeria


    BanzaiBk wrote: »
    Yup it's a group setting. There are 8 people attending including myself. Tbh the first day every one of us were uncomfortable and nervous. We got used to each other though and feel quite at ease in the group now which is great. The "instructor" is great too, aware of the implications of having 8 people in a group who are awful at social interaction :o

    On my bad weeks it takes all my energy to force myself to go to the class (just under 3 hours long, once a week) but it's worth it. I know it's hard for some of the others too, about half of us have chronic anxiety/social anxiety.
    It sounds good. I don't know how I'd deal with the privacy aspect. I keep harping on about my privacy, you'd swear I had interesting secrets or something. I'm totally boring!
    How long will the course last?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Plumeria wrote: »
    My psych has never mentioned CBT to me, although I've read a little bit about it. I've heard it described as the best (maybe only) solution for people with social anxiety in particular. Glad you have found a helpful course. I must admit I fear the idea of doing courses, because of the group situation it entails. Do you attend 'classes' or how does it work?



    Does he often say things like that? It's most likely just out of concern, even though it only succeeds in making you feel worse.
    People tend to get very frustrated when they have no solution for someone they love, and the frustration can make them blurt out the wrong things.

    Though it's true that a lot of people seem to think we're simply refusing to change because we are apparently having such great craic with our mental health issues.
    :rolleyes:

    Yeah he's always fairly abrasive when talking to me,I don't think he actually believes in mental iilness to be honest,which is ridiculous considering the majority of his brothers and sisters suffer with one form or another of mental iilness issues!

    Banzai (if you don't mind me asking!) are you doing the CBT anxiety group thingy in the Mater?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭BanzaiBk


    Plumeria wrote: »
    It sounds good. I don't know how I'd deal with the privacy aspect. I keep harping on about my privacy, you'd swear I had interesting secrets or something. I'm totally boring!
    How long will the course last?

    lol I know what you mean :) I was the same tbh, but the whole thing is like strictly first names only etc. It's a 9 week course, just on week 3 now.
    Banzai (if you don't mind me asking!) are you doing the CBT anxiety group thingy in the Mater?
    I'm based in Cork! I'll be getting cbt in the psychiatric service day hospital in Cork city. Do you have the chance to attend this group in the Mater? After my experience of the mindfulness etc I'd tell you to jump at the chance if you could. Group setting terrified me initially (omg these strangers will think I'm nuts!) but now I know why they work (you realise they are nuts too :pac:).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Plumeria


    Yeah he's always fairly abrasive when talking to me,I don't think he actually believes in mental iilness to be honest,which is ridiculous considering the majority of his brothers and sisters suffer with one form or another of mental iilness issues!

    That's interesting. I wonder what he thinks is wrong with so many of his siblings? All just lazy?

    I think people generally have most respect for the forms of mental illness which they can't relate to. The vast majority of people have never had hallucinations or severe delusions or psychotic episodes. Therefore they will respect these as symptoms of real mental illnesses.

    But stuff like depression and anxiety? Most people have some experience with those, even if it's a mild or short-lived experience. So, a fair number of people will consider themselves to be educated on the whole issue, and even qualified to talk like experts about how easy it is to recover, and how people who can't recover must be just lazy/stupid/faking it. This is where all the dismissive contempt for depression/anxiety comes from, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    I don't want to seem like I am gloating while some of you brilliant people struggle, but I have had the best week I've had in a long time. I don't think it's any coincidence that it picked up for me after 3 weeks of effexor and remeron but my tolerance levels and motivation for doing assignments has really picked up. I suppose this is due to getting the sleep I need and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Tackling work that was hanging over me for the last few months has been a big relief for me and I'm no longer blaming it on the crash that sent me to that dark place. A place I never knew even existed within me so it has been quite the learning experience.
    I'll be going to the psych monday so it'll be interesting to see what they change with my meds and see if they will start tapering me off them.

    Oh, and the weather helps a lot! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭Tags


    That's great Mars Bar :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    BanzaiBk wrote: »
    lol I know what you mean :) I was the same tbh, but the whole thing is like strictly first names only etc. It's a 9 week course, just on week 3 now.

    I'm based in Cork! I'll be getting cbt in the psychiatric service day hospital in Cork city. Do you have the chance to attend this group in the Mater? After my experience of the mindfulness etc I'd tell you to jump at the chance if you could. Group setting terrified me initially (omg these strangers will think I'm nuts!) but now I know why they work (you realise they are nuts too :pac:).

    I applied for the group in the Mater cos my psychologist recommended it to me, but the waiting list is almost a year long! I can't afford to pay for a private group (not even sure if one exists anyway!!)

    Plumeria I have no idea what my dad thinks about his sibling's mental iilnesses,by the way he goes on I doubt he thinks too much about them at all.Attention seeker is what he called my uncle with bi-polar once though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭lauren12


    Hey guys,
    I suffer from pretty severe depression and an eating disorder, bad days I can't even get out of bed. I am coming off the antidepressant I was on because it's just not working, being honest I want to give being without anti-depressants a chance because I found the anti-depressant changed my personality, and I am also on 13 other tablets day for another long term illness i have.

    I was wondering has anyone found a natural remedy to help against depression like St John's Wort. I know exercise is very beneficial obviously.

    And I know there are still loads of anti-deps I haven't tried yet, and they do work for many people. But at the moment for me they make me feel like I'm just barely alive, just here physically but not really here, I'm not the girl I used to be by any means. So if anyone knows of any natural herbs that do work I am willing to try them.

    Thanks
    Lauren


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Lauren I'm really sorry to hear about your condition. I hope your situation has been thoroughly investigated, in terms of physical as well as psychiatric tests.

    I think there are a lot of people out there, including myself, who struggle with balancing the body and mind, and have to rely somewhat on experimenting with diet and lifestyle.

    The only natural (dietary) anti depressant that has worked for me is dark chocolate. I find it works best if I only eat it now and then - when it's needed.

    Outside dietary, I tend to do better when my lifestyle is as balanced as possible, ie not doing too much of any one thing, such as using the computer or watching television, and getting moderate exercise, fresh air and social stuff, whenever my energy levels allow for it.

    I would advise that anything herbal can have dangers and side effects just like conventional medicine, though if you can improve your mental health without the use of conventional antidepressants then more power to you.

    Finally, hang in there. It will be a battle, but try to remember when you're having a bad day, that it is only a temporary state. Keep your favourite people around you and believe in yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭margarite


    mars bar wrote: »
    I don't want to seem like I am gloating while some of you brilliant people struggle, but I have had the best week I've had in a long time. I don't think it's any coincidence that it picked up for me after 3 weeks of effexor and remeron but my tolerance levels and motivation for doing assignments has really picked up. I suppose this is due to getting the sleep I need and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Tackling work that was hanging over me for the last few months has been a big relief for me and I'm no longer blaming it on the crash that sent me to that dark place. A place I never knew even existed within me so it has been quite the learning experience.
    I'll be going to the psych monday so it'll be interesting to see what they change with my meds and see if they will start tapering me off them.

    Oh, and the weather helps a lot! :)
    That s brillent I m really happy for you. Take care.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Too depressed to cry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭BanzaiBk


    Just showed up at the clinic today 'cos I was sick of going around like I was carrying a bag of bombs with me. Psych changed me to Lustral from Cymbalta. Unsure why but I'll give them a go I suppose. Makes me laugh that 3 months ago she was talking about easing me off medication! Ugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭lauren12


    Hey,
    Thanks for the reply. Ya I am being helped, through therapy and it is a looong process, but at this stage that's ok and I accept that, and I am willing to do anything to get out of it.

    Cos of the eating disorder I do find it hard to socialise, and I do isolate myself a lot of the time cos of the shame of it, but that will get better, I'm reading a lot about it and depression and that's helping too. I honestly would not wish this on my worst enemy.

    I hope you are well
    Lauren


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Hey Lauren.

    Isolation can become a negative cycle where it is harder to get out and mix, the longer you have been isolated for.

    I hope you find some good social outlets and take a bit of a leap now and then. It's amazing how a warm smile or some good conversation can quickly fill you with the hope and confidence that gets depleted during periods of isolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    They say regular exercise is the best remedy for depression.It releases 'feel good' chemicals in the brain.A friend who had bad depression told me after a good walk he felt a lot happier.
    Also a good diet is very important.You are what you eat and all that.
    All the best,and hope things improve.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    If you're in the care of a medic, then you should really listen to their advice and guidance rather than the opinions of anonymous people on the internet.
    I'd say that up front.
    But to answer your question, you can buy St John's Wort in significant amounts over the counter in Newry, Derry or Belfast. It is known to counteract with certain cardiac drugs, and obviously, it mightn't be adviseable to take alongside actual anti-depressants, such as SSRIs.
    But it remains a disgrace that such an effective and inert herbal drug for treating mild to medium-term depression is effectively unavailable in the Republic.
    The other thing I'd mention is daylight lamps. Massively popular in the Nordic countries and should be here too, given how dull our skies are most of the time. A genuinely useful investment for anyone who gets the blues, especially during Winter months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭djk1000


    Have you tried other antidepressants? The first two my doctor prescribed were horrible, it took 6 months to figure out the right pill and the right dose with my doctor, but once the right one clicked, it was a revelation. I felt like giving up on them many times before they eventually worked.

    +1 for exercise, very important part of improving your mood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭WeirdoFreak


    I don't know which one would be tougher. I feel so restricted to what I can do in life it feels like I'm locked up in jail or something.

    I want to go travel the world, but always having the nagging voice in my head saying I can't do it, because I'll get panic attacks and have to come home, I don't want to be stuck in another country struggling if you get me.

    But I don't seem to be getting any better, everyday is a constant battle, I've being getting panic attacks for 10 years now and I can't enjoy some parts of my life anymore.

    I just can't see where my life is going, will these God forsaken things ever go away and will I live my life again. I forget what if feels like to live freely.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Plumeria


    Bad day today.
    I don't think my psychiatrist can help me. And the idea of starting all over again with someone new just makes me want to give up completely. I can't do it.

    I rang my friend in desperation today and asked him to please tell me there's a reason to keep going. He said of course there's a reason. I can't see it.

    Sorry for the downer. I feel really frantic atm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Hang in there buddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    First of all want to say how much I admire everyone in this forum for being so honest and supportive of each other. I'm an occasional Boards poster posting here as a guest..I was wondering what people feel the relationship between anxiety and depression is, does having one always involve having the other? My own situation is that I suffer occasional anxiety attacks at work, and just from thinking about work. Not the full scale,blackout type of panic attacks,thank God, but feelings of panic,wanting to run away,pains in my limbs,shortness of breath,etc. Whenever I run into a work-related issue I feel its something I can't handle, had a serious one today and I know I'm going to ruin my whole weekend by brooding over it. I have a very secure job and work with some nice people although there is a good bit of pressure from above, especially when there is a problem. These feelings of anxiety have been going on for over 10 years now since I left college. My girlfriend suggested a doctor and counselling a year ago, so I was put on a small dose of lexapro and starting counselling. Neither seemed to do me any good, which is probably something to do with the intermittent nature of the problem. So I'm not sure if my problem warrants me posing here given the severity of other people's problems, but I just wanted to vent! Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Dude vent away. Everyone knows its really good to get stuff off your chest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Plumeria


    These feelings of anxiety have been going on for over 10 years now since I left college. My girlfriend suggested a doctor and counselling a year ago, so I was put on a small dose of lexapro and starting counselling. Neither seemed to do me any good, which is probably something to do with the intermittent nature of the problem.

    I'm not qualified to advise people on anything, but I found Xanax very effective for immediate relief in a high-anxiety situation. It's the sort of drug you only take when needed, not on a daily basis.
    It takes effect in about 20 minutes and relaxes you for maybe 3 or 4 hours.
    Anyway, it might be something that works for you if your anxiety is occasional... maybe you could ask your doctor about it.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Xanax is very,very addictive,my psychiatrist wont prescribe me it for that very reason unfortunately.She gave me Seroquel instead which is a nasty,nasty drug.

    Another crap day for me today,met with my counsellor,was good to talk to another human being about how I'm feeling and how I've been cutting myself and why,and we came up with sort of an action plan which seemed okay when we were talking about it but it doesn't really help very much now when I'm feeling like crap.I suppose he isn't a miracle worker in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Having a brutal time today, i'm very anxious,its making me physically ill now. I do have depression, but as of yet, never looked or got help of any substantial kind. I'm afraid to if I'm honest.

    I hear from nobody....my family the odd time, but it kind of feels like they have to. I have very few friends, if i can even call them that. They reply....never contact me....not sure if that makes sense. I get pissed off and annoyed that nobody contacts me, even a text would be good....asking how I am(not that I would tell them, gotta keep the mask up). Feels like nobody cares....

    Long empty days, followed by long empty nights, its one continuous loop of emptiness. I got so down yesterday, I contemplated visiting a prostitute. Its not even about sex, I'd just like to feel the warmth of another human. Instead I got drunk, and went to bed. Jesus I feel so pathetic....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Bad day, nobody deserves to feel that way. There are so many social support structures out there, you just need to get some info about them and push yourself to getting out there more to meet new people.

    Have you considered ringing The Samaritans? Not only can they be a great help when you need to vent, but they will have a ton of info on ways to boost your social life.

    Either way, I think you need to get the courage to talk to a GP about how you're feeling.

    Psychiatry has come such a long way and there is a great success rate with modern drugs. People suffer needlessly for years before they seek help and the reaction is always "why didn't I do this sooner?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    They say regular exercise is the best remedy for depression.It releases 'feel good' chemicals in the brain.A friend who had bad depression told me after a good walk he felt a lot happier.
    Also a good diet is very important.You are what you eat and all that.
    All the best,and hope things improve.


    I agree, i've had a bad few weeks, just feeling sh1t and beating myself up over everything.

    Anyway last monday i decided enough is enough, packed in the fag's, stopped comfort eating and got into the mindset that a healthier me would be a happier me.
    I've started couch 2 5k, haven't smoked in a few days and i've had what most people would consider a normal week.

    Hopefully next week will go as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Sorry for your troubles man. Sounds completely lousy. I'm in a similar situation myself, ten years of bull****, though it's mostly chronic fatigue with me.

    Regarding traveling the world etc, well with me it has been a case of lowering my expectations, or quite literally, scaling things down. I know I'll probably never be able to travel the world, as much as I would love to, but I can still work towards goals and get fulfillment from more modest things. I'm making the most of this little island of ours, and have been able to get a lot out of small trips to places like beaches, gardens, castles and forests. I've also taken up new hobbys which are not physically demanding, but still endlessly rewarding.

    I hope you look after your physical body, and your social life, as well as mental health, and I wish you the best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭margarite


    phi3 wrote: »
    Too depressed to cry.
    Is there anything I can do for you? Have you anything to look forward to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    condra wrote: »
    Dude vent away. Everyone knows its really good to get stuff off your chest.

    AnxiousGuy79 here - don't see why I should feel like I've anything to hide so I'm posting under my own username! Part of the problem with mental health issues is the stigma attached, we wouldn't feel the same if we were suffering from chronic back pain..

    Thanks for the replies Condra and Plumeria. I've decided to arrange an appointment with the employee assistance service at work to talk a few things over, and I'm seriously thinking about CBT as a potential course of treatment. I've just ruined my weekend worrying about tomorrow,I really can't go on living my life like this. Finding it hard to find reputable CBT practitioners - I understand that giving names is against policy here, but if anyone has any pointers I'd be grateful. I'm also planning on organising a doctor's appointment to discuss things and get a general checkup. Now if I can just get through tomorrow.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭BanzaiBk


    Hey Benny if you go to your GP you should be able to get a referral for psych services and get CBT via that route. Not sure where you are based but I'm attending CBT starting the end of April after applying via my psych consultant a few weeks ago. Not a very long waiting time in Cork.

    Cymbalta suiting me fine so far. Looks like this week will be a positive one :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Just remember, CBH is not for everyone, and indeed your GP/consultant might recommend a different course of action altogether.

    Aside from all that, I think you should address the areas of your lifestyle that lack balance, ie diet, stress, sleep, social etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Thanks for that guys,I need to find a GP in my area as I haven't been here too long but once I do I'll ask about a referral.Condra,appreciate the advice.My appetite in particular completely dries up when I have one of these episodes. Banzai, glad to hear things are looking up for you. Thanks again,will let ye know how I get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Today's flawed logic: depressed people are allowed chocolate :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭MrMojoRising


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    Thanks for that guys,I need to find a GP in my area as I haven't been here too long but once I do I'll ask about a referral.Condra,appreciate the advice.My appetite in particular completely dries up when I have one of these episodes. Banzai, glad to hear things are looking up for you. Thanks again,will let ye know how I get on.

    Hi Benny,

    If you find someone decent practicing CBT then you might PM me the name.

    My GP referred me to one, and despite leaving 2 messages and sending an email (this was last week) I've gotten no reply :mad:. I know naming names probably isn't on, but don't bother with mytherapist.ie ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 941 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    Well all

    Just a quick question,just wondering did anyone ever undergo ECT treatment for depression and if so how it go?any negative effects?


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