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Government Capital Spending on Roads: 2016-2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    At a glance none of these announced projects are shovel ready, or am I wrong?
    they are maybe not shovel ready, but an awful long way further down the planning process than when the Government went mad building stuff in the boom and hadnt even prefered routes identified when announcing new roads !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    At a glance none of these announced projects are shovel ready, or am I wrong?

    All the first list are somewhat there.

    N56 Mountcharles to Inver is CPOed and major site clearances (buildings with asbestos removed etc); N56 Glenties to Dungloe is part under construction and the other part CPOed; N4 Cooloney to Castlebaldwin is CPOed and fencing underway. N59 Moycullen BP I think is CPOed, a small section is underway. Rest are outside my sphere of paying attention these days :pac:

    Second list definitely aren't - two are mired in planning problems for starters.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    L1011 wrote: »
    No, that's never planned. There'll be a junction with the Sallins bypass, though, at Osberstown.
    Isn't that the same as what he said....


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Isn't that the existing plan?
    The existing plan was to have a tunnel from Inchicore-Heuston-Pearse-Docklands-north of Connolly.
    Now it's just Heuston-Pearse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    they are maybe not shovel ready, but an awful long way further down the planning process than when the Government went mad building stuff in the boom and hadnt even prefered routes identified when announcing new roads !!

    "Went mad building stuff" - did they?

    You mean the effort (only partially completed) to bring our roads up to normal European standards? :confused:

    As someone pointed out yesterday in relation to the capital expenditure announcements in the area of Health - the announcement is mainly comprised of things promised in the 2011 plan and undelivered plus things that won't actually involve any construction costs in the period of the current "plan".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    spacetweek wrote:
    The existing plan was to have a tunnel from Inchicore-Heuston-Pearse-Docklands-north of Connolly. Now it's just Heuston-Pearse.

    That's just one of the options. It wouldn't address the loop line bottle neck


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    spacetweek wrote: »
    The existing plan was to have a tunnel from Inchicore-Heuston-Pearse-Docklands-north of Connolly.
    Now it's just Heuston-Pearse.

    Oddly the original plan ended the tunnel at Heuston - the more sensible arrangement was added much later.

    I suppose this gives them an opportunity to delay further when they decide that maybe the Inchicore tunnel was a better solution after all!

    Wonderful how a combination of a sclerotic planning system combined with endless opportunities for tweaking can result in nothing actually getting built :mad:

    Does anyone actually believe that MN (killed off on Sept 8th; revived Sept 28th) will actually be built as currently proposed?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    jd wrote: »
    That's just one of the options. It wouldn't address the loop line bottle neck

    The resignalling sorts that out no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    spacetweek wrote: »
    The resignalling sorts that out no?
    It helps, but the DU increases the number of paths and you're freed of the crossover from the Maynooth line. From next year it is also planned to bring additional trains from the Kildare line through the PPT on to GCD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Isn't that the same as what he said....

    No, that won't be the naas Salinns road


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Does anyone actually believe that MN (killed off on Sept 8th; revived Sept 28th) will actually be built as currently proposed?

    of course not, none believes capital plans into the future,

    I believe capital plans when a JCB starts digging holes until then ......


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Anyone know if N4 Collooney to Castlebaldwin will be DC or single?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    DC, if Sligo co co's info is up to date:

    http://www.sligococo.ie/N4/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Colloney-Castlebaldwin is a Type 2, in other words a 2+2 similar to most of the Tralee bypass or the N4 towards Carrick-on-Shannon.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Colloney-Castlebaldwin is a Type 2, in other words a 2+2 similar to most of the Tralee bypass or the N4 towards Carrick-on-Shannon.
    I see it's extended a little further south than planned, it was 13.7 km originally now 14.7.

    Once this is built I'll have a C.O.Shannon bypass and a motorway from mullingar to Longford and we're done :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    spacetweek wrote: »
    I see it's extended a little further south than planned, it was 13.7 km originally now 14.7.

    Sounds like that'll just be realigned S2

    "The road type will be Type 2 Dual Carriageway tied into the existing network to the south via a section of Standard Single Carriageway."


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Anyone wanna speculate on which of the announced schemes might start next year?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Anyone wanna speculate on which of the announced schemes might start next year?
    M7 widening is surely close to starting seeing as there isn't much work involved.

    L1011 said before the N56 schemes are close to construction or under construction.

    It was said on the N22 thread that the scheme is quite a bit away from starting, but that a lot of works had been done on the N4 & N5 schemes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    I believe all the land required has been purchased for the Dunkettle upgrade. Interesting to see will it start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    marno21 wrote: »
    M7 widening is surely close to starting seeing as there isn't much work involved.

    L1011 said before the N56 schemes are close to construction or under construction.

    It was said on the N22 thread that the scheme is quite a bit away from starting, but that a lot of works had been done on the N4 & N5 schemes

    I thought Kildare Co Co would be on the ball with the tender process as soon as funding was awarded. Haven't seen any sign of it yet though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    KCC are putting together tender documents to appoint a consultant to assist with the D&B procurment (Specimen Design, Tender Action Evaluation and Award) Tender Assessment, Contratc Admin and Supervision

    KCC seeking approval from DTTAS to combine Sallins Bypass in with the Naas - Newbridge Scheme

    Will probably be issued early next year

    I dont think there is any money for these schemes in spite of political announcements


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    KCC are putting together tender documents to appoint a consultant to assist with the D&B procurment (Specimen Design, Tender Action Evaluation and Award) Tender Assessment, Contratc Admin and Supervision

    KCC seeking approval from DTTAS to combine Sallins Bypass in with the Naas - Newbridge Scheme

    Will probably be issued early next year

    I dont think there is any money for these schemes in spite of political announcements

    Any evidence that there is an issue with funding?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    There doesnt seem to be any new money for TII as yet.

    There doesnt appear to be any appetite for new PPPs

    Alot of TII's existing budgets are tied up with paying existing PPPs, developing the Traffic Control Centre and looking ahead, at managing the demand on the M50 via ITS systems or addiitonal tolls


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    There doesnt seem to be any new money for TII as yet.

    There doesnt appear to be any appetite for new PPPs

    Alot of TII's existing budgets are tied up with paying existing PPPs, developing the Traffic Control Centre and looking ahead, at managing the demand on the M50 via ITS systems or addiitonal tolls

    It's new funding , of course it wouldn't appear in the existing budgets.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    http://tii.ie/tii-library/reports-accounts/

    2016 funding for TII. Bar the two schemes in Wexford it seems 2016 is another year of pussyfooting around with nothing being done bar land acquistion. This Government's attitude to transport infrastructure is shocking


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Road schemes:

    N4 Collooney to Castlebaldwin:
    Advance works on this are ongoing, with Sligo CoCo having a view to the beginning of construction in 2018.
    Expected opening: 2020

    N5 Westport to Turlough:
    Advance works are complete on this scheme, but resources on Mayo are concentrated on a realignment of the N26 at Cloongullane Bridge, construction should start in 2018.
    Expected opening: 2020

    M7 widening J9-J11, J9A Osberstown & R409 Sallins BP:
    Preliminary works have just begun, and the contract for the overall scheme is at the tender stage, with a view to starting next April
    Expected opening: late 2018

    N8/N25/N40 Dunkettle Interchange upgrade:
    No news on this since the plan was announced, apart from the appointment of technical advisors. TII's Dominic Mullaney has recently said that the scheme is expected to start in 2018 after extensive traffic management plans have been organised.
    Expected opening: 2020

    N22 Baile Bhurine to Macroom:
    Whilst this is almost shovel ready, Dominic Mullaney has said that the scheme is waiting patiently in a queue for Dunkettle to start, so it is expected this won't start til 2019/2020.
    Expected opening: 2021

    N56 Dungloe to Glenties:
    Part of this project is under construction already, like the N86 schemes in Kerry. The remainder shouldn't be too far away seeing as funding has now been approved
    Expected opening: 2019

    N56 Mountcharles to Inver:
    No news since the plan was announced. However, at a 5km long SC scheme, it shouldn't be too long to do.
    Expected opening: 2019

    N59 Moycullen BP:
    Although shovel ready, no movement on this since the plan was announced.
    Expected opening: TBC

    Subject to planning:
    N2 Slane BP:
    No movement on this since the plan was announced.
    Expected opening: TBC

    N6 Galway City Outer Bypass:
    This scheme is progressing through the planning stages with EIS & CPO due Q3 2016. If funding is committed to by the government, it should be ready to go within a few years.
    Expected opening: 2022

    N21 Adare BP & N21/N69 Limerick - Foynes:
    These were promised seperately, but have now been amalgamated into the N21/N69 Limerick-Foynes scheme. The route was selected earlier this year & preliminary design of alignment & junctions, with an optimistic view of a 2018/19 start.
    Expected opening: 2021

    M28 Cork - Ringaskiddy
    Another scheme racing through the processes, with the final scheme, EIS & Motorway Order due before the end of the year. With this in mind, an early 2019 start should be achieved.
    Expected opening: 2021

    N72 Mallow Northern BP:
    This is undergoing a feasability study by TII, which will be published before the end of the year. This study will decide whether the scheme actually goes ahead or not, and will decide how it will link in with the M20 Cork-Limerick scheme. Land purchase etc. will begin in 2017 if it progresses
    Expected opening: 2021

    Killaloe area road improvement plan (Killaloe BP, new Shannon crossing & new R494 Birdhill-Ballina)
    Objections to this were recently quashed in the courts, so progression of this scheme soon is likely:
    Expected opening: TBC

    Other schemes mentioned in the plan are the new bridge in Sligo, distributor roads for Portlaoise & Athy, phase IV of the Dingle relief road & the new Laytown to Bettystown spine road, however none are under construction.

    A5 Aughnacloy - Derry:
    A special mention for the NI's A5, with the Irish government committing €25m every year from 2016-2018. Construction on the first section from Derry - Strabane will begin in 2017, with another stretch from Omagh to Ballygawley to begin in 2019.
    Expected opening (for the lot): 2028, pending upgrade of the N2 to meet the proposed Ballygawley to the border stretch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Technique


    marno21 wrote: »

    A5 Aughnacloy - Derry:
    A special mention for the NI's A5, with the Irish government committing €25m every year from 2016-2018. Construction on the first section from Derry - Strabane will begin in 2017, with another stretch from Omagh to Ballygawley to begin in 2019.
    Expected opening (for the lot): 2028, pending upgrade of the N2 to meet the proposed Ballygawley to the border stretch.

    Will Brexit have any affect on this? Is there any EU funding involved?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Technique wrote: »
    Will Brexit have any affect on this? Is there any EU funding involved?
    There is no EU funding, however Wesley Johnston remarked that the EU Habitats Directive was causing issues with the progression of elements of the scheme, which will no longer apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    marno21 wrote: »
    There is no EU funding, however Wesley Johnston remarked that the EU Habitats Directive was causing issues with the progression of elements of the scheme, which will no longer apply.

    It won't cease to apply until the final negotiated exit date or 24 months after A.50, whichever is first - if at all, as the EEA membership option still imposes the vast bulk of EU rules. Its far more likely we'd pull our funding (again) before that happened; so they'll have to find a way to get the development approved in accordance with it anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭PoolDude


    I don't see the Oilgate bypass listed there, yet there seems to have been money allocated for the early stages of that work


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    By the looks of it a large amount of new starts in 2018. For funding reasons they'll probably split everything between 2018, 2019 and possibly 2020 so I wouldn't expect them all to actually start in 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    N2 Slane Bypass to be issued to Consultants shortly to take through Route Selection and Planning Stages via the TII Consultancy Framework


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    L1011 wrote: »
    It won't cease to apply until the final negotiated exit date or 24 months after A.50, whichever is first - if at all, as the EEA membership option still imposes the vast bulk of EU rules. Its far more likely we'd pull our funding (again) before that happened; so they'll have to find a way to get the development approved in accordance with it anyway.

    Oh yeah, but then again, on the other hand, construction of the A5 isn't going to happen today or tomorrow either ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭NiallBoo


    N2 Slane Bypass to be issued to Consultants shortly to take through Route Selection and Planning Stages via the TII Consultancy Framework

    Maybe this is out of place or has been done to death already...but is there any particular reason to stick with the n2 north of ashbourne?

    To me it seems like greatly upgrading and rerouting the n53 (dundalk to castleblaney)* would be a more sensible alternative?

    Is there a particular reason why going through/near slabs is preferred?


    (*ie. Reroute it to dundalk to the existing n2 half way between carrickmacross and castleblaney - conveniently avoiding having to cross into the north. )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Slane needs a second bridge regardless


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭NiallBoo


    L1011 wrote: »
    Slane needs a second bridge regardless

    It's pretty narrow alright but would replacing it be necessary if the through-traffic gets diverted?

    Would banning HGVs from slane bridge (and presumably stackallen) be a goer if it weren't being used as a main north/south route?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The bridge at Slane definately needs relief, however the ~40km N2 Ashbourne to Ardee scheme isn't the solution, the 4km N2 Slane BP is.

    Long term, Dublin -> NI traffic will be directed via the M1 and likely a N33 2+2 upgrade or a N53 upgrade. Upgrading the N2 is ridiculous considering it's about 6km from the M1 to the N2 at Collon.

    The final part of the A5 upgrade, from Omagh to Ballygawley, is also dependent on an N2 upgrade south of the border, so it's assumed it will be done eventually.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    marno21 wrote: »
    The final part of the A5 upgrade, from Omagh to Ballygawley, is also dependent on an N2 upgrade south of the border, so it's assumed it will be done eventually.
    Not quite - the Ballygawley-Border part is dependent on that. The Omagh-BG part is going ahead anyway, in 2019.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    As it stands, there is lots of chatter about a review of this programme next year which is being used to promote the possibility of inclusion of projects such as the M20 or the N52 Ardee BP.

    As it stands, only the N56 Dungloe-Glenties and possibly the M7 upgrade will be underway two years into the six years of the programme.

    I am not including the PPPs here because they were announced in 2009, would've been underway earlier barring the fiscal reasons I won't go into here, and in fact Gort-Tuam was underway early in 2015 and Howlin was delaying his motorway and expressway for the election to do some sod turning.

    Not only was it an underwhelming terrible plan to begin with, they can't even get this much done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    PoolDude wrote: »
    I don't see the Oilgate bypass listed there, yet there seems to have been money allocated for the early stages of that work

    Tender issued via the TII Framework

    The proposed scheme entails the provision of a bypass of the village of Oilgate, Co. Wexford. The scheme will interface with the M11 Gorey to Enniscorthy scheme which will tie into the existing N11 at Scurlocksbush, north of Oilgate. The scheme is approximately 4 kilometres in length and ties into the existing N11, south of Oilgate, in the vicinity of Tinnahask / Whitefort. It is the intention of the Contracting Authority to engage a consultant to complete Phase 1 of Transport Infrastructure Ireland’s Project Management Guidelines 2010 (TII PMG). Using the Project Stages as defined in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform Capital Works Management Framework, the Consultant will be engaged to complete Stage (i) Feasibility Study / Preliminary Report. The Consultant will need to carry out a Preliminary Appraisal as set out in the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport’s Common Appraisal Framework for Transport Projects and Programmes (March 2016). A full description of the services required by the Client is provided in Schedule B of the Tender and Schedule for the Conditions of Engagement for Consultancy Services (Technical).


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tender issued via the TII Framework

    The proposed scheme entails the provision of a bypass of the village of Oilgate, Co. Wexford. The scheme will interface with the M11 Gorey to Enniscorthy scheme which will tie into the existing N11 at Scurlocksbush, north of Oilgate. The scheme is approximately 4 kilometres in length and ties into the existing N11, south of Oilgate, in the vicinity of Tinnahask / Whitefort. It is the intention of the Contracting Authority to engage a consultant to complete Phase 1 of Transport Infrastructure Ireland’s Project Management Guidelines 2010 (TII PMG). Using the Project Stages as defined in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform Capital Works Management Framework, the Consultant will be engaged to complete Stage (i) Feasibility Study / Preliminary Report. The Consultant will need to carry out a Preliminary Appraisal as set out in the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport’s Common Appraisal Framework for Transport Projects and Programmes (March 2016). A full description of the services required by the Client is provided in Schedule B of the Tender and Schedule for the Conditions of Engagement for Consultancy Services (Technical).

    Is this to be built to motorway standard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    marno21 wrote: »
    Is this to be built to motorway standard?

    It has to meet the TEN-T standards which we have no other equivalent for, as far as I know.

    The A8 upgrade in NI meets TEN-T with roundabouts but it has two carriageways with a solid median and hard shoulder.

    The NRA shouldn't tender for something that doesn't meet their public standards, but they could I guess.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    L1011 wrote: »
    It has to meet the TEN-T standards which we have no other equivalent for, as far as I know.

    The A8 upgrade in NI meets TEN-T with roundabouts but it has two carriageways with a solid median and hard shoulder.

    The NRA shouldn't tender for something that doesn't meet their public standards, but they could I guess.

    This is only TEN-T comprehensive I thought? Surely if that's the case the N11 from J6 - J14 will be done soon too.

    Will be interesting to see what standard the Rathkeale-Foynes will be done

    These dualling schemes in the North aren't that great are they - roundabouts and LILOs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,547 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    marno21 wrote: »
    This is only TEN-T comprehensive I thought? Surely if that's the case the N11 from J6 - J14 will be done soon too.

    Will be interesting to see what standard the Rathkeale-Foynes will be done

    These dualling schemes in the North aren't that great are they - roundabouts and LILOs

    As far as I know the standards only apply to new works; not compulsion on existing.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    It is now one year since this plan was published, and whilst those of us on the forum were optimistic that a roads plan had finally been published after many years of a construction drought, we were a bit too optimistic.

    There has been very little movement across many of the schemes that comprise the already underwhelming plan, with several schemes undergoing ZERO movement in the past year. Only one of the schemes is likely to start within the next two years, that being the M7 Naas/Newbridge bypass upgrade.

    Overall, the falling through of this plan and the lack of ambition in the plan anyway, the Irish road network comes under major pressure, especially in Cork and Galway, where the lack of several important schemes such as the M20, Dunkettle Interchange and M28 in Cork and the N6 Outer Bypass in Galway lead to signficiant congestion and delays on a daily basis.

    Here's an update on all the schemes announced in the plan. As you can see, the update is very similar to the last update I put up in June 9 months into the plan:

    Road schemes:

    N4 Collooney to Castlebaldwin:
    Advance works on this are ongoing, with Sligo CoCo having a view to the beginning of construction in 2018.
    Expected opening: 2020

    N5 Westport to Turlough:
    Advance works are complete on this scheme, but resources on Mayo are concentrated on a realignment of the N26 at Cloongullane Bridge, construction should start in 2018.
    Expected opening: 2020

    M7 widening J9-J11, J9A Osberstown & R409 Sallins BP:
    Preliminary works are ongoing, and a tender has been awarded for the design of the scheme. The official line from Atkins, who were awarded that tender is late 2019, however it is hoped it would be opened earlier
    Expected opening: late 2018 (presumed)/end 2019 (official)

    N8/N25/N40 Dunkettle Interchange upgrade:
    Still no news on this since the plan was announced, apart from the appointment of technical advisors. TII's Dominic Mullaney has recently said that the scheme is expected to start in 2018 after extensive traffic management plans have been organised.
    Expected opening: 2020

    N22 Baile Bhurine to Macroom:
    Whilst this is almost shovel ready, Dominic Mullaney of TII recently said at a select committee that this scheme would begin in Q1 2020.
    Expected opening: late 2022

    N56 Dungloe to Glenties (26.9km)
    Cloghbolie - Boyoughter (3.3km) opened 2014
    Boyoughter - Kilkenny (4.9km) under construction
    Rest is TBC.
    Expected opening: 2019

    N56 Mountcharles to Inver:
    No news since the plan was announced. However, at a 5km long SC scheme, it shouldn't be too long to do.
    Expected opening: 2019

    N59 Moycullen BP:
    Although shovel ready, no movement on this since the plan was announced.
    Expected opening: TBC

    Subject to planning:
    N2 Slane BP:
    No movement on this since the plan was announced, bar the issuing of a tender through the TII framework for consultants to be appointed to the scheme
    Expected opening: 2022

    N6 Galway City Outer Bypass:
    This scheme is progressing through the planning stages with EIS & CPO due Q3 2016 (still not published). If funding is committed to by the government, it should be ready to go within a few years.
    Expected opening: 2022

    N21 Adare BP & N21/N69 Limerick - Foynes:
    These were promised seperately, but have now been amalgamated into the N21/N69 Limerick-Foynes scheme. The route has been selected and refined down to a 100m corridor, with junction details also released. Pending EU funding release a start in late 2018 may be feasible.
    Expected opening: 2021

    M28 Cork - Ringaskiddy
    Another scheme racing through the processes, with the final scheme, EIS & Motorway Order due before the end of the year. With this in mind, an early 2019 start should be achieved.
    Expected opening: 2021

    N72 Mallow Northern BP:
    This is undergoing a feasability study by TII, which will be published before the end of the year. This study will decide whether the scheme actually goes ahead or not, and will decide how it will link in with the M20 Cork-Limerick scheme. Land purchase etc. will begin in 2017 if it progresses
    Expected opening: 2021

    Killaloe area road improvement plan (Killaloe BP, new Shannon crossing & new R494 Birdhill-Ballina)
    Objections to this were recently quashed in the courts, so progression of this scheme soon is likely:
    Expected opening: TBC

    Other schemes mentioned in the plan are the new bridge in Sligo, distributor roads for Portlaoise & Athy, phase IV of the Dingle relief road & the new Laytown to Bettystown spine road, however none are under construction.

    A5 Aughnacloy - Derry:
    A special mention for the NI's A5, with the Irish government committing €25m every year from 2016-2018. Construction on the first section from Derry - Strabane will begin in 2017, with another stretch from Omagh to Ballygawley to begin in 2019. However, an objection has made which will likely push the start of this scheme back to 2018, which may cause funding issues.
    Expected opening (for the lot): 2028, pending upgrade of the N2 to meet the proposed Ballygawley to the border stretch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭Limerick74


    The Foynes to Limerick Scheme (N21/N69) Route Selection Report has an opening date of 2024. I would assume a few of the other projections above are very optimistic.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Most of the schemes were suspended (or brand new?) when the plan was announced. When you're starting from scratch it takes a few years to get anything to construction.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Most of the schemes were suspended (or brand new?) when the plan was announced. When you're starting from scratch it takes a few years to get anything to construction.
    Opposite. The only new scheme in there is the Foynes-Limerick.

    In fairness, the Slane BP, Galway City BP (new iteration), M28 and Mallow bypass (new iteration) are a few years away from starting.

    If the motivation was there, the N4, N5, Macroom BP, Dunkettle, M7 upgrade, Moycullen BP and the two N56 projects could have started in 2017 or even late 2016. Most advance works are done on them, some are even shovel ready.

    The only confirmed date we have is 2020 for the Macroom BP, which of all the above schemes is the furthest from being shovel ready, even though in general terms it's not far off being shovel ready. The three secondary schemes are definitely ready to go, and I believe Dunkettle is too.


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    marno21 wrote: »
    Opposite. The only new scheme in there is the Foynes-Limerick.

    In fairness, the Slane BP, Galway City BP (new iteration), M28 and Mallow bypass (new iteration) are a few years away from starting.

    If the motivation was there, the N4, N5, Macroom BP, Dunkettle, M7 upgrade, Moycullen BP and the two N56 projects could have started in 2017 or even late 2016. Most advance works are done on them, some are even shovel ready.

    The only confirmed date we have is 2020 for the Macroom BP, which of all the above schemes is the furthest from being shovel ready, even though in general terms it's not far off being shovel ready. The three secondary schemes are definitely ready to go, and I believe Dunkettle is too.

    The Castlebar - Westport road is fenced ready to go. We are now hearing locally it could be another 3 years. Its definitely not a pro infrastructure government.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The Castlebar - Westport road is fenced ready to go. We are now hearing locally it could be another 3 years. Its definitely not a pro infrastructure government.
    3 years til it starts or 3 years til its opened?


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