Where is adsl.ie gone to?

viking · 06-08-2002 9:24am #1

The site disappeared last week, might have something to do with rewriting the text to include the new (smaller capped,lower speed) residential product. Or maybe they are revising all their ADSL prices downwards....

viking

Lemming · 06-08-2002 10:07am

Originally posted by viking
might have something to do with rewriting the text to include the new (smaller capped,lower speed) residential product.

Have they lost the plot completely?

(Even) Smaller cap?? For F**ks sake!! Lower Speed?

Can I quote Soula Evans now?

"I would love DSL to take off"

Well Ms.Evans (and the rest of ye vultures that be known as EirCon) ... would you kindly put your money were your mouth is and actually APPEAR to want it to take off?

Or maybe they are revising all their ADSL prices downwards....

HA!! Not bloody likely! :mad:

Fallschirmjager · 06-08-2002 11:00am

HA HA HA HA HA LOL LOL

the ADSL.ie in ireland SAYS

this page is currently unavailable-- SPEAKS VOLUMES!!!

god this has just made my day -- ADSL is currently unavailale!!!

Lemming · 06-08-2002 11:16am

I swear to god .. this is so farcical its turning into a greek tragedy.

dahamsta · 06-08-2002 11:36am

this is so farcical its turning into a greek tragedy.

My, awen't we posh.

adam

Fallschirmjager · 06-08-2002 11:51am

dont know greek...but...

TO BE OR NOT TO BE...THAT IS THE QUESTION!!!

Lemming · 06-08-2002 12:06pm

Feck off adam, old chap

Fallschirmjager .... greek tragedy ...

body count = the entire cast bar about 1 person

Fallschirmjager · 06-08-2002 4:37pm

LOL

is that not known as going postal!!! oh wait they ****ed that up before they left and became a telco!!!

stormkeeper · 06-08-2002 6:40pm

Originally posted by Fallschirmjager
dont know greek...but...

TO BE OR NOT TO BE...THAT IS THE QUESTION!!!

That's shakespeare hehe. Still though, I'd say that particular phrase speaks volumes about our situation.

BKtje · 06-08-2002 6:52pm

Maybe they were forced to give up adsl.ie as it kinda gives the impression that they are the only ones doing it.
Ppl who are interested in ADSL would most likely go to adsl.ie and there they see only eircoms prices.
Maybe some 1 finally copped on and forced em to take it down so that a more general adsl thing could be put up. (in interests of fair competition etc)

However this being Ireland and Eircom, the site is probably just experiencing 'problems'.

viking · 06-08-2002 10:25pm

Originally posted by B-K-DzR
Maybe they were forced to give up adsl.ie as it kinda gives the impression that they are the only ones doing it.

I think they got it "fair and square" according to iedr's rules :rolleyes: Its a "Brand Name" as their WHOIS server reports...

domain: adsl.ie
descr: Eircom Plc
descr: body corporate 98789
descr: "Brand Name"
admin-c: DW65-IEDR
tech-c: TDI2-IEDR
zone-c: TDI2-IEDR
nserver: ns.irishdomains.net
nserver: ns2.irishdomains.net
source: IEDR

Explain that one please?

viking

kamobe · 06-08-2002 11:14pm

I must have been mistaken, as I was under the impression I-Stream was the brand name....

Oh well - I'm clearly wrong.

jmcc · 06-08-2002 11:47pm

Originally posted by viking

I think they got it "fair and square" according to iedr's rules :rolleyes: Its a "Brand Name" as their WHOIS server reports...

Fair and square are two words that I would not associate with IEDR. The domain was granted prior to the abolition of the Generic Rule as well.

Basically it is just another dodgy IEDR decision and they have made hundreds of them.

Regards...jmcc

sirlinux · 06-08-2002 11:50pm

very strange why arent they using ther own name servers for adsl.ie

>nserver: ns.irishdomains.net
>nserver: ns2.irishdomains.net

whois irishdomains.net

Registrant Contact-
Irish Domains Ltd
ID Hostmaster (hostmaster@irishdomains.com)
+353 1 4190630
FAX- +353 1 4190639
Unit 21
Western Ind. Est.
Dublin, D12
IE

Fallschirmjager · 07-08-2002 10:08am

well either way -- its still not there and when it was -- if i remember correctly -- it had a dissolving headache tablet.....LOL also a good description for adsl in ireland...

Dustaz · 07-08-2002 11:41am

Um, adsl isnt a brand name, its a technichal standard. Grounds for complaint possibly?

dahamsta · 07-08-2002 12:49pm

It /is/ a brandname, in fact I think it's a trademark belonging to the ADSL Forum, which puts Eircom firmly in violation of the Berne Convention. This has been brought to the atention of the IEDR on several occasions, but The Bould Fagan wasn't interested. Or he'd been told not to be interested.

adam

Mountjoy Mugger · 07-08-2002 12:49pm

I have no doubt whatsoever that this was an intentional stroke on eircom's part. They couldn't register it with IEDR if it wan't a brand name. So, they pulled a fast one.

Occidental · 07-08-2002 1:18pm

I've asked and they have told me its a technical problem (no more details available yadda yadda).

So now we all know the facts, because Eircom wouldn't lie, not to a customer.

sceptre · 07-08-2002 6:59pm

Originally posted by Dustaz
Um, adsl isnt a brand name, its a technichal standard. Grounds for complaint possibly?

I'd say that on a legal level, Dustaz has a fair point.

Brand name and even trademark law is littered with companies whose product was so successful it became used as a generic term for the type of product offered. Fastest examples I can offer are "aspirin" and "yo-yo" - both formerly brand names that were lost by companies through their own lethargy towards protecting the brands. In the early 1900s Kodak ran the risk of losing their brand name in the same way; Coke have prevented the same happening to them through over 7000 lawsuits to protect their rights.

WHere a court rules that a term is in such widespread use as a name for the product that it has in effect become a generic use for the name they've been quite happy to pull the ownership of the term. Obviously this mostly applies to US law as our own courts have never done this.

The term "ADSL" is a term used specifically for "asymetric digital subscriber line" The term "asymetric digital subscriber line" is a descriptive term, "ADSL" is both an abbreviation for the descriptive term and a generic term in its own right. Hence while it may be registered as a brand name, no rational court is going to allow any organisation to hijack that term for itself.

Not to say that influenced the IEDR in any way.

jmcc · 07-08-2002 7:03pm

Originally posted by dahamsta
It /is/ a brandname, in fact I think it's a trademark belonging to the ADSL Forum, which puts Eircom firmly in violation of the Berne Convention. This has been brought to the atention of the IEDR on several occasions.

It would be a better thing to notify the copyright/trademark owners and let them take action against IEDR and Eircom.

The other aspect has to do with the jurisdiction of the trademark. I think that Berne covers copyright rather than trademark. As for IEDR, the number of dubious domain name decisions that it has been involved in is just too long to list.

Regards...jmcc

corkey · 07-08-2002 7:25pm

not in the phone book ? lol:D

Where is adsl.ie gone to?

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