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N59 Save Clydagh Bridge

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    #2
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,542 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    This scheme was approved by ABP ages ago, and work started six months ago on the scheme. Did none of the locals bother to find out what was planned?

    It was mentioned multiple times in the media. I don't live there, have little interest in the scheme, and even I had heard that the bridge was to be knocked..


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    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-clydagh-bridge/509331495901074


    https://m.facebook.com/GalwayAdvertiser/posts/10153648059196941


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    D.L.R.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭D.L.R.


    Thats shocking and saddening, where is An Taisce??


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    [Deleted User]
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    D Trent wrote: »
    https://www.facebook.com/GalwayAdvertiser/posts/10153648059196941
    Please show your support in saving Clydagh Bridge, built in 1829.
    This week, Galway CoCo will attempt to demolish what is an iconic and historic bridge that is completely SAFE, and carried tens of thousands of vehicles each day up until last week !
    Thank you https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-clydagh-bridge/509331495901074

    Sigh, this is what pisses me off most about development of infrastructure in Ireland.

    Full details would have been published at the time of public consultation for anyone to express views and make changes to the plans.

    Now people are suddenly "surprised" just because they can't be arsed to get involved when their opinions are sought.

    On a side note, I look forward to the implementation of the dislike button on Facebook


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    [Deleted User]
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    D Trent wrote: »
    https://www.facebook.com/GalwayAdvertiser/posts/10153648059196941
    Please show your support in saving Clydagh Bridge, built in 1829.
    This week, Galway CoCo will attempt to demolish what is an iconic and historic bridge that is completely SAFE, and carried tens of thousands of vehicles each day up until last week !
    Thank you https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-clydagh-bridge/509331495901074

    Sigh, this is what pisses me off most about development of infrastructure in Ireland.

    Full details would have been published at the time of public consultation for anyone to express views and make changes to the plans.

    Now people are suddenly "surprised" just because they can't be arsed to get involved when their opinions are sought.

    On a side note, I look forward to the implementation of the dislike button on Facebook


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    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    The leading question I would ask before making further comment, is there a flooding issue associated with this bridge, if there is, then sorry, I don't care how ancient it is, the well being and safety of people and their properties has to come before ancient architecture, the only possible exception being if the properties at risk were built without planning approval.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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    McAlban
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭McAlban


    This is a Long Running Campaign in which the residents of Moycullen have used a lot of tactics (including intimidation of local landowners) to prevent this inner relief road from being built.

    Usual Propaganda on that website. Planning Granted in 2006. In the Development Plan since 2005. They knew damn well it was coming they've been objecting to it for years.


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    Flyingsolo
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    according to Galway Bay fm newsroom – "Galway county council say a public consultation was held three years ago about the bridge in Moycullen which is now the location of a public protest
    In a statement to Galway Bay fm news official Liam Gavin says people were aware of the planning process and the proposed works at Clydagh Bridge
    Mr Gavin says the replacement of the bridge formed a large part of the discussions of the 3 day An Bord Pleanala oral hearing in 2012"

    interesting!!


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    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,847 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    from the bord planana decision, which was formed after all the public meetings and 100s of submission
    http://seankyne.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Moycullen-An-Bord-Pleanala-decision.pdf
    The proposed Lough Kip River Bridge, which will replace an existing bridge
    structure over the Lough Kip River at Chainage 4430 m, shall be finished in
    stone. The stone used shall, insofar as possible, incorporate the salvaged stone
    from the existing bridge to be demolished to facilitate the proposed road
    development.
    Reason: In the interest of protecting the setting of the existing mill structure
    adjoining the bridge and river.

    so they are doing lots to ensure that the bridge fits in with the surroundings.
    Not that maybe you'd want to have everything kept as it is currently in that area.... seeing how it looks 100m down the road
    https://goo.gl/Y3Hs0v


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    corasam
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭corasam


    really, you cant argue that its not a beautiful spot despite the pic u posted further down the road.

    the report u quoted makes no mention of it being replaced with an entirely different structure. the sketch of a single arch only came into the public domain this week.


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    corasam
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭corasam


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sigh, this is what pisses me off most about development of infrastructure in Ireland.

    Full details would have been published at the time of public consultation for anyone to express views and make changes to the plans.

    Now people are suddenly "surprised" just because they can't be arsed to get involved when their opinions are sought.

    On a side note, I look forward to the implementation of the dislike button on Facebook

    there is a fatal flaw in the system if all of the local residents were unaware such a huge change was to take place in their locale, yes we knew about the realignment of the n59, but not that a historic and fully functioning bridge was to be replaced with an entirely different structure. I'm not personally in the practice of reviewing these types of plans but the detail was far from forthcoming. Our local representatives failed us here. They failed to highlight and inform us of this significant change, and they failed to fight for a better solution.


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    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,847 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    corasam wrote: »
    really, you cant argue that its not a beautiful spot despite the pic u posted further down the road.

    the report u quoted makes no mention of it being replaced with an entirely different structure. the sketch of a single arch only came into the public domain this week.
    the report I quoted says the bridge is to be demolished and replaced with a stone faced new bridge using stones from the old bridge as much as possible to help blend in with the adjacent mill.

    its a national road and the lives of people using it is simply more important than a bridge which has now outlived its useefulness

    I remember the building of the Shannon Erne canal and thinking that there was weirs and old locks being demolished and what a sad and regrettable thing it was to loose the originals, but in the end what was rebuilt was done using the original reclaimed stones (abeit the flood defences were more a concrete affair) and overall the end result was way more pleasant than I thought possible.


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    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    corasam wrote: »
    there is a fatal flaw in the system if all of the local residents were unaware such a huge change was to take place in their locale, yes we knew about the realignment of the n59, but not that a historic and fully functioning bridge was to be replaced with an entirely different structure. I'm not personally in the practice of reviewing these types of plans but the detail was far from forthcoming. Our local representatives failed us here. They failed to highlight and inform us of this significant change, and they failed to fight for a better solution.
    A little bit of personal responsibility would go along way here. You failed you here, by not finding out what was planned.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Thankfully sanity prevailed

    http://connachttribune.ie/efforts-to-save-clydagh-bridge-from-demolition-fail/


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    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,542 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Thankfully sanity prevailed

    http://connachttribune.ie/efforts-to-save-clydagh-bridge-from-demolition-fail/

    Did they actually manage to demolish it this week, I gather they have to stop work for the spawning season soon.


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    [Deleted User]
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    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Did they actually manage to demolish it this week, I gather they have to stop work for the spawning season soon.

    Yeah, it went ahead

    http://connachttribune.ie/bridge-levelled-despite-protests-468/


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    Geogregor
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    I had a quick look at the protesters' facebook page and sorry but what a pile of bollocks.
    Seriously, how people can get so upset about some random stone bridge??? WTF?

    Admittedly I'm not familiar with the area but presumably there were all the consultations done etc. At the end of day bridge is a civil engineering structure not some kind of monument where look is the most important factor. Safety, cost of its upkeep etc surely must come first. If it is not up to scratch then sorry but it has to go.

    And some of the posts on their page are just over-dramatic. Are they bored? Have nothing better to do in their lives?

    One of the comments: "We live in dictatorship"

    Seriously???


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