Drug dealers' website selling ecstasy and HEROIN doubles its sales to £1MILLION

tattoolad2013 · 29-05-2013 11:06am #1

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297958/Drug-dealers-website-selling-ecstasy-HEROIN-doubles-sales-1MILLION-month--police-powerless-ban-it.html

FatherLen · 29-05-2013 11:08am

a link to the daily mail AND a thread with no opinion from the op????

GET HIM!

mikehammer67 · 29-05-2013 11:08am

thanks
been looking for a resource like that for a while

SouthTippBass · 29-05-2013 11:09am

Thats your website isnt it?

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-05-2013 11:11am

Takes all the fun out of scoring

tattoolad2013 · 29-05-2013 11:12am

poor post man if he is ever stopped

harry Bailey esq · 29-05-2013 11:20am

i believe the site is called silk road,and uses bitcoin. from what I've heard its extremely difficult to access.

tattoolad2013 · 29-05-2013 11:24am

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

i believe the site is called silk road,and uses bitcoin. from what I've heard its extremely difficult to access.

It’s basically untraceable or so I have heard

Swan Curry · 29-05-2013 11:47am

I like how they've capitalised HEROIN just to let me know I should be really outraged over it being available.

The Backwards Man · 29-05-2013 11:53am

I love an eloquently written OP to stimulate my thought processes in the morning.

Nice day out, isn't it?

120_Minutes · 29-05-2013 11:58am

hmmm silkroad + parcelmotel =

o1s1n · 29-05-2013 11:59am

Dangerous: This cannabis was being sold but users say it is easier and safer than buying off a street dealer

Eh? What's dangerous then? The cannabis?

kingtiger · 29-05-2013 12:00pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Surely all these packages are intercepted at post depots? At least for Ireland, all mail is scanned before it gets sent to the address...

yeah right, only a tiny fraction of mail is scanned from within the EU

mikehammer67 · 29-05-2013 12:01pm

Mr.S wrote: »

No it's not, it's simple to access.

It's on the "deep Internet", a scary scary place, mostly child porn, drugs and hitmen (?!)

Surely all these packages are intercepted at post depots? At least for Ireland, all mail is scanned before it gets sent to the address...

nope

Sergeant · 29-05-2013 12:04pm

TOR has been great for my human organ harvesting business. Allows me to really engage with my customers, and to provide them with high-quality Asian products at reasonable prices.

kingtiger · 29-05-2013 12:05pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Perhaps that was just the man on that Irish Customs TV show trying to scare people

yep, and since the country went bust there is even less scanning of mail

Steodonn · 29-05-2013 12:42pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Dangerous: This cannabis was being sold but users say it is easier and safer than buying off a street dealer

Eh? What's dangerous then? The cannabis?

Think they mean the dealers and I'd expect to get better quality on silk road.

i believe the site is called silk road,and uses bitcoin. from what I've heard its extremely difficult to access.

https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

wonderfulname · 29-05-2013 12:52pm

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

i believe the site is called silk road,and uses bitcoin. from what I've heard its extremely difficult to access.

There's actually a load of them, and they're incredibly easy to access, just equally hard to locate users. They're in the onion network, along with anon and all the child porn rings you hear about.

LowKeyReturn · 29-05-2013 12:58pm

IM SHOCKED!!!!!"!

The Daily Mail actually printed a box-out about TOR which was actually quite balanced and easy to understand.

Snake Pliisken · 29-05-2013 1:00pm

I'm sick of these capitalists, making money from market demands. Its a disgrace!

Yakult · 29-05-2013 1:05pm

Found my new favourite website (well in terms of Cannabis and not the hard stuff, fck that!)

FearDark · 29-05-2013 1:07pm

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

i believe the site is called silk road,and uses bitcoin. from what I've heard its extremely difficult to access.

tattoolad2013 wrote: »

It’s basically untraceable or so I have heard

A quick google will tell you where to get hitmen and drugs on the deep web. Its surprisingly easy.

weiland79 · 29-05-2013 1:08pm

I moved into new accomadation a few years ago i came home one evening and there was a really strong smell of weed in the porch. There were two envelopes there.
One with about a half ounce of weed in it and the other with a letter from customs saying they had intercepted a parcel destined for my address that contained a controlled substance, and that under section yada yada yada it was illegal to transport said items through the post.
The only thing i could figure was that there were originally two parcels being sent to the previous tenant and that one of them had been caught and the other not.
I never heard anything from customs after that and quickly burned the evidence.

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 29-05-2013 1:14pm

This is the only reason bitcoin does well apart from speculation, anyway for the average Irish consumer the prices are to high, considering its an international market and places like Australia with tighter controls have higher prices..Check out the pic, them prices are in bitcoin (must be old pic) as bitcoins are around €80 now, so that five grams of week is costing €400

29-05-2013 1:17pm

I never heard anything from customs after that and quickly burned the evidence.[/QUOTE]

In your bong??

My name is URL · 29-05-2013 1:18pm

Andy Fancy Jukebox wrote: »

This is the only reason bitcoin does well apart from speculation, anyway for the average Irish consumer the prices are to high, considering its an international market and places like Australia with tighter controls have higher prices..Check out the pic, them prices are in bitcoin (must be old pic) as bitcoins are around €80 now, so that five grams of week is costing €400

1 bitcoin is currently worth €98.41. Was over €100 a few days ago.

There are a good few Irish sellers on the site.

Specialun · 29-05-2013 1:19pm

What a great entreprenerial website

I wonder were weselldrugs.com or getyourwackybacky.com taken

LowKeyReturn · 29-05-2013 1:19pm

My name is URL wrote: »

1 bitcoin is currently worth €98.41. Was over €100 a few days ago.

There are a good few Irish sellers on the site.

That's fecking madness - it was €5 when I was mining them last year! Missed that boat!

BUBBLE WRAP · 29-05-2013 1:26pm

Mr.S wrote: »

No it's not, it's simple to access.

It's on the "deep Internet", a scary scary place, mostly child porn, drugs and hitmen (?!)

Surely all these packages are intercepted at post depots? At least for Ireland, all mail is scanned before it gets sent to the address...

Incorrect, It is very difficult to access, you need certain coding to run it and different software to create an account. Also this website was created many moons ago by the Russian army to be able to swap around firearms between themselves. Then it was sold, the Russian army were actually trying to close it down a while ago. But because an ordinary Joe owns it now they can't get it closed down.

Speculation here, but there seems to be a few thousand Irish accounts on it. So I'm guessing that the drugs etc. would be very very well hidden.

Lastly. Funny fact number 12:

All of the webpages your able to access i.e. Board, Donedeal etc etc. (legal stuff) Is only 3% of the whole internet. The other 97% in underground, like Silk Road

IsThisIt??? · 29-05-2013 1:26pm

There is a bitcoin bubble that is surely going to collapse soon. I wouldn't want to hold on to any bitcoins for too long

Noxin · 29-05-2013 1:28pm

I wonder how many idiots are gonna get hit from this thinking they can download TOR and click anything they like thinking they are anonymous...

Do yourselves a favour kids. Don't save or download anything while you play around on "teh deep webz"

Cienciano · 29-05-2013 1:32pm

FatherLen wrote: »

a link to the daily mail AND a thread with no opinion from the op????

GET HIM!

It's like throwing a stinkbomb into a crowded room, locking the door and running away.

LowKeyReturn · 29-05-2013 1:32pm

IsThisIt??? wrote: »

There is a bitcoin bubble that is surely going to collapse soon. I wouldn't want to hold on to any bitcoins for too long

Need to last another couple of weeks! Just installed the client and GUI miner!

NegativeCreep · 29-05-2013 1:38pm

Feck sake, I always find out about these things too late. I must have been the last person in Ireland to know what a headshop was.

hatrickpatrick · 29-05-2013 1:43pm

Silk Road, Tor, and Bitcoin combined is one of the best things to happen in modern society. Fairly soon, the 'thought crime' of experiencing highs will be absolutely impossible for the authorities to maintain and they'll have no choice but to legislate to ease restrictions on people taking drugs.
Sure, people are going to say "Tor's encryption will one day be cracked, Bitcoin will be regulated and Silk Road will die", but they're missing the point: It's the concept that matters. If those three technologies are killed, new and more resilient ones will take their place. It's only a matter of time. It's already happening actually, there's an add-on for Bitcoin called "zerocoin" which makes it truly impossible to trace a Bitcoin transaction.

People should realize that drugs were originally banned not out of any sort of health concerns but out of fears of their potential for social disruption. That there are laws governing what a consenting adult can do with his or her own body is, in my view, appalling. Victimless crime is not a crime.

Ravenid · 29-05-2013 1:45pm

weiland79 wrote: »

and quickly burned the evidence.

I see what you did there.

My name is URL · 29-05-2013 1:58pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Sure, people are going to say "Tor's encryption will one day be cracked, Bitcoin will be regulated and Silk Road will die", but they're missing the point: It's the concept that matters. If those three technologies are killed, new and more resilient ones will take their place.

Considering that 80% of TOR's funding comes from US government sources (US State Department, National Science Foundation) I'm not sure there's much of a will to kill the protocol.

Seachmall · 29-05-2013 2:03pm

I was talking to a guy at the weekend who buys his MDMA and pills from the Silk Road, says it takes about a week to deliver (from the Netherlands) and is very reliable.

In saying that it's unfair to call it a drug dealing website. It's perfect for getting counterfeit currency, fake jewelry, and stolen electronics too!

BUBBLE WRAP · 29-05-2013 2:36pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Ah here now, a quick google and a look on YouTube will tell you how to get access and create an account, hardly very difficult to access :pac:

Well my I.T. teacher is right.. :P

NegativeCreep · 29-05-2013 2:43pm

Ugh, effort of going on the deep web just to get it. I always feel so so dirty on there. There is some filthy stuff that shouldn't be seen.
I think a good old fashioned trip to a dealers house is less effort and less effort.

locum-motion · 29-05-2013 3:03pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

...I think a good old fashioned trip to a dealers house is less effort and less effort.

And tautological typing doesn't waste effort at all, does it?

yore · 29-05-2013 3:12pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Silk Road, Tor, and Bitcoin combined is one of the best things to happen in modern society. Fairly soon, the 'thought crime' of experiencing highs will be absolutely impossible for the authorities to maintain and they'll have no choice but to legislate to ease restrictions on people taking drugs.
Sure, people are going to say "Tor's encryption will one day be cracked, Bitcoin will be regulated and Silk Road will die", but they're missing the point: It's the concept that matters. If those three technologies are killed, new and more resilient ones will take their place. It's only a matter of time. It's already happening actually, there's an add-on for Bitcoin called "zerocoin" which makes it truly impossible to trace a Bitcoin transaction.

People should realize that drugs were originally banned not out of any sort of health concerns but out of fears of their potential for social disruption. That there are laws governing what a consenting adult can do with his or her own body is, in my view, appalling. Victimless crime is not a crime.

It's years since I looked into this stuff but TOR only encrypts the path of the packet. doesn't encrypt what's in it. And doesn't make it invisible from the exit node (or any other but the exit node is special as it knows the final destination). Each node knows where it got the packet from and where it it sending it to next. The "encryption" in TOR only encrypts the other addresses. Breaking the encryption isn't the only way, technically, of tracing the packet.

I'm also not sure if there are built-in protections against this, but I'm fairly sure that any site you are visiting can also get your IP address from client side java or scripts etc that you are running from their site, perhaps without you being aware of it or knowing how to block it or that you need to!

It's all honeypots for a lot of people!! A bit of "knowledge" can get you into trouble :-)

ScumLord · 29-05-2013 3:14pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Dangerous: This cannabis was being sold but users say it is easier and safer than buying off a street dealer

The daily mails scary article generator doesn't really understand what it's saying it just drops scary words next to sentences.

weiland79 wrote: »

I never heard anything from customs after that and quickly burned the evidence.

In a spliff?

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

All of the webpages your able to access i.e. Board, Donedeal etc etc. (legal stuff) Is only 3% of the whole internet. The other 97% in underground, like Silk Road

That seems hard to believe, how could an underworld network generate more traffic as the internet that the majority of the world's population use?

LowKeyReturn · 29-05-2013 3:16pm

yore wrote: »

It's years since I looked into this stuff but TOR only encrypts the path of the packet. doesn't encrypt what's in it. And doesn't make it invisible from the exit node. Each node knows where it got the packet from and where it it sending it to next. The "encryption" in TOR only encrypts the other addresses. Breaking the encryption isn't the only way, technically, of tracing the packet.

I'm also not sure if there are built-in protections against this, but I'm fairly sure that any site you are visiting can also get your IP address from client side java or scripts etc that you are running from their site, perhaps without you being aware of it or knowing how to block it or that you need to!

It's all honeypots for a lot of people!! A bit of "knowledge" can get you into trouble :-)

Tracing is possible, and has been done, but its beyond most local law enforcement. FBI/CIA probably can but I doubt they would compromise their position for the sake of catching a few drug dealers or peados trading porn. (Arguably the latter actually helps them catch the actual producers). I suspect the intelligence services use TOR to gather intelligence in regards to terrorist organisations but them perhaps this belongs in the CT forum rather than here.

As for IP addresses - yes quite easily gathered, as with personal information. This is a far easier method of tracking people rather than tracing.

yore · 29-05-2013 3:24pm

LowKeyReturn wrote: »

Tracing is possible, and has been done, but its beyond most local law enforcement. FBI/CIA probably can but I doubt they would compromise their position for the sake of catching a few drug dealers or peados trading porn. (Arguably the latter actually helps them catch the actual producers). I suspect the intelligence services use TOR to gather intelligence in regards to terrorist organisations but them perhaps this belongs in the CT forum rather than here.

As for IP addresses - yes quite easily gathered, as with personal information. This is a far easier method of tracking people rather than tracing.

I played around with TAILS Linux before. Years ago. I think it was actually called something else that time. The concepts were interesting. Not for anything dodgy mind......I'd know enough about it to know that I didn't know enough about it to be doing anything dodgy with it

Seachmall · 29-05-2013 3:32pm

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

All of the webpages your able to access i.e. Board, Donedeal etc etc. (legal stuff) Is only 3% of the whole internet. The other 97% in underground, like Silk Road

The surface web, which is the 3% you're referencing, is the number of sites indexed by the major search engines. The other 97%, known as the deep web, consists of sites that are not indexed. Those sites are almost entirely legitimate sites that simply are either not for public access (such as private portals for MNCs) or new sites that simply haven't been indexed yet.

Nobody knows exactly how large the deep web is or what it contains (because, by definition, they are unknown) but it can be stated with confidence that contrary to popular belief they are not entirely child porn sites, terrorist sites, or drug dealing sites. They do exist but probably only make up a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the deep web.

yore wrote: »

It's years since I looked into this stuff but TOR only encrypts the path of the packet. doesn't encrypt what's in it.

Tor encrypts the data sent between the client and the exit node, it does not encrypt the path (I don't even know what that means).

frozenfrozen · 29-05-2013 3:33pm

The new fivers are easily replicated... or so I'm told...

Deep web is interesting for the first couple of hours then you feel kind of strange and then the grifter comes and gets you

kingsenny · 29-05-2013 3:35pm

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Incorrect, It is very difficult to access, you need certain coding to run it and different software to create an account. Also this website was created many moons ago by the Russian army to be able to swap around firearms between themselves. Then it was sold, the Russian army were actually trying to close it down a while ago. But because an ordinary Joe owns it now they can't get it closed down.

Speculation here, but there seems to be a few thousand Irish accounts on it. So I'm guessing that the drugs etc. would be very very well hidden.

Lastly. Funny fact number 12:

All of the webpages your able to access i.e. Board, Donedeal etc etc. (legal stuff) Is only 3% of the whole internet. The other 97% in underground, like Silk Road

I'd love to know where BUBBLE WRAP gets his/her "facts" from lol :rolleyes:

DipStick McSwindler · 29-05-2013 3:37pm

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My name is URL · 29-05-2013 3:39pm

ScumLord wrote: »

That seems hard to believe, how could an underworld network generate more traffic as the internet that the majority of the world's population use?

This pretty much explains the notion people have about most of the internet being 'hidden'

http://i.imgur.com/Srbk0.jpg

yore · 29-05-2013 3:42pm

Seachmall wrote: »

Tor encrypts the data sent between the client and the exit node, it does not encrypt the path (I don't even know what that means).

I meant that it encrypt the packet headers. So that each machine only knows it's nearest neighbourns and all other information on the route/source/destination of the packet is washed or encrypted. Perhaps it encrypts the data between the end nodes too.

Anyway, my point was that it's not foolproof or 100% secure on it own. I wasn't giving an in-dept technical overview of the protocol as I don't know it :-)

Drug dealers' website selling ecstasy and HEROIN doubles its sales to £1MILLION

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