Marvel's Ant-Man

brianregan09 wrote: »

Marvel are definitly not scraping the barrel here, You're follow on comment proves it Daredevil isn't even owned by Marvel (movie wise) any more Fox has that and X-Men and Fantastic Four too (bastar.ds),

But yeah Antman is a long time coming imo and should have been done before Avengers as in the comics he was a founding member of the Avengers and created Ultron who is an Iconic Avengers Villain, Be interesting to see how the movie turns out though definitly looking forward to seeing it , As for other characters still to make it to the silver screen there is bucket loads

Iron Fist,Luke Cage, Moonknight, Beta ReyBil, Captain Marvel, Alpha flight, Ms Marvel and Sentry to name a few so yeah marvel got some options

With respect, it's not so much scraping the barrel as it is that few of those heroes would realistically constitute household names & at the end of the day that's what will drive a lot of the success or failure for these movies: getting those with a casual / passing interest in the genre (or not!) into the cinema. Internet fanboys can make all the excited noises, but they still constitute the minority.

I'm sure many of these 'B squad' heroes have tales worth telling don't get me wrong, but films such as John Carter or Green Lantern showed that quality notwithstanding, the lack of a recognizable protagonist can really hurt these kind of movies (or at least make it harder to gain momentum). I would also make the case that not every superhero should be told, Fantastic Four is a good example of that.

Mickeroo wrote: »

I get what you're saying, but arguably neither Iron Man or Thor were household names either. Really, apart from Spider-man, X-men(mainly wolverine) and Hulk I don't think Marvel have anyone of the same level of universal recognition as Batman or Superman. There's no denying they have a job on their hands thats for sure. Fair play to them for being ambitious though. I would be reasonabley familiar with comics but I hadn't even really heard of Guardians of the Galaxy, and by looking at it they're not exactly taking the easy route with their choice of titles.

I've never liked fantastic four either but its getting another reboot now too, this time by the director of Chronicle.

Well of course it isn't an exact science, but I'd argue Iron Man succeeded mostly through the sheer power of RDJs ad-libbed charisma onscreen, rather than the comic material itself; a lot of the good press for Thor seemed to emphasize the comedy and / or the Shakespearean overtones (at least, that's what made me see it anyway hehe). I also believe that generally what helped most of Marvels films heretofore has been some element of precedent: most if not all have existed either as TV shows or the occasional film. They already had exposure in the public consciousness so names like Thor or Iron Man were already partially marquee. Luke Cage & Moonknight have a larger battle at hand.

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

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Also, you can never underestimate the potential for audience backlash and overexposure. At some point along the line audiences may well get sick of the whole superhero movie thing, especially now that they're slowly exhausting the iconic ones. A few average or bad films and goodwill can easily turn to hostility. I guess we can only wait and see how the incoming barrage of sequels fare.

It's only inevitable that audiences will tire of the genre; it's not like it hasn't happened before, whether it was with Cowboy films in the 50s, or Disaster flicks during the 70s.

I dunno, I saw the footage and while yes it's just a proof of concept, my thoughts haven't changed that much; the whole thing looks so feckin' goofy and silly.

Everyone's suspension of disbelief is different & what makes it crack varies from person to person; for me, it takes a goofy-looking superhero who can shrink and grow at will. Sure, arguably it's as believable as a norse god or raging green giant, but Ant-Man is too much for me - far too Silver-Age. Call me a party-pooper but I just think bringing all these heroes into the 'Avengers' canon might over-egg the superhero pudding.

On the other hand, I am curious to know what Joe Cornish makes of the script (loved Attack of the Block) and Edgar Wright was practically made for directing a comic adaptation, so maybe all is not lost...