Interstellar (Christopher Nolan) SPOILERS FROM POST 458 ONWARDS

MayoForSam · 06-04-2015 1:51am

Saw it again today for the 2nd time, did not have the same impact on the smaller screen for sure, still a thought-provoking film and does make you think about the bigger picture, what's in store for the future, etc. My missus (who hadn't seen it before) normally falls asleep during movies that are on after 11pm but she was enraptured throughout

. My 2 kids also watched it for the second time and they also stayed with it until the end.

Zimmer's score is truly memorable. The last 20 minutes don't really stand up to scrutiny and there are too many loose ends in total. Still up there with Nolan's best, The Prestige and TDK are better movies with more coherent plot development however.

06-04-2015 4:24am

Looper007 wrote: »

Nolan is only in a small group of directors that hasn't made a stinker imo. Paul Thomas Anderson is another for me. Even Nolan's lesser fare is better then most directors (Insomnia is still very good solid thriller). I think the Dark Knight Rises gets far too much hate seen as it had the impossible demand of topping the greatest superhero film ever.

The Prestige is really a wonderful film as is Inception and Interstellar, cinematic experiences that need to be seen on the big screen. For me Nolan has 6 classic films in his canon and three good to very good films, not a bad run at the moment.

I go

1. Memento
2. The Prestige
3. Interstellar
4. Inception
5. The Dark Knight
6. Batman Begins
(all 5/5 films for me)
7. The Dark Knight Rises
8. Insomnia
9. Following

I could interchange any of the top 6 really they are all that good. Can't wait for Nolan's next film.

Now that promotional work for Interstellar seems to be done and the movie is out in the world on blu-ray/download, I would expect to hear news and tidbits of Nolan's next project by August/September. That is assuming of course that he is going to keep going as normal and jump from one movie to the next, rather than take an extended break. Just the taglines and brief descriptions of his movies excite me. My bum was guaranteed to be in the cinema seat for The Prestige, Inception and Interstellar on the taglines alone, and I ended up loving 2 of those movies.

As for the rest of your post, it would be my opinion too that Nolan doesn't have one stinker on his film-reel. There are a couple of his movies that I don't overly enjoy or particularly like, but I still can't deny that they are well-made, impressive works of film and therefore not 'stinkers' or 'terrible' movies.

While there are still a couple of PTA's movies that I've yet to watch, a similar director to Nolan for me in terms of quality control is David Fincher. Like with Nolan, there are a few Fincher movies that I'm not mad about, i.e. Gone Girl, Alien 3, Benjamin Button, but I could still see that they were good movies despite my lack of enjoyment. Ok, Alien 3 is well up for debate in the 'good movie' category, but Fincher hadn't full control of it and that movie's troubles have been well documented.

Nolan's movies have flaws, some more than others, but I honestly don't believe that he has made a bad movie.

PhiloCypher wrote: »

You're of course right Stank, to each their own I guess, I'm no more gonna convince you its ****e then you're gonna convince me its amazing. My post was as much borne of a befuddlement and frustration that this thread has been sustained on the front page for so long not by debate but by endless "I've seen it 3/4/5/6/7 times in [insert format/cinema here]and I think it was awesomer then you" posts. Anyways I should prob just unfollow the thread instead of sniping.

I've no doubt there may have been one or two of that opinion but I'm not one of them. I disliked it for entirely rational reasons.

Well you said that you've watched the movie 3 times, so you've given Interstellar a fair chance to win you over and maybe it's just not meant to be. Same with myself and Inception, I've often thought 'What am I missing that almost everyone else loves?' but after that moment's thought, I wouldn't really let it bother me for much longer. Then there are those who can't see that The Prestige is the greatest thing that mankind has accomplished yet

and I shudder a little, but not too much and then move on.

DoYouEvenLift · 06-04-2015 8:20am

He was rumoured to be directing Ready Player One which is another sci fi but it turns out that it's actually Spielberg doing it. He was also rumoured to be highly desired for one of the new James Bond movies. Hopefully he does another original standalone with his brother though, they do great work together.

If he was to do James Bond or another franchise I'd prefer if he didn't just sign on to do a single one in the middle of a rehash like the current Daniel Craig ones. I'd rather if he did similar to Batman and got to create a new trilogy/series for the character.

Falthyron · 06-04-2015 12:02pm

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

He was rumoured to be directing Ready Player One which is another sci fi but it turns out that it's actually Spielberg doing it. He was also rumoured to be highly desired for one of the new James Bond movies. Hopefully he does another original standalone with his brother though, they do great work together.

If he was to do James Bond or another franchise I'd prefer if he didn't just sign on to do a single one in the middle of a rehash like the current Daniel Craig ones. I'd rather if he did similar to Batman and got to create a new trilogy/series for the character.

I'm pretty sure Nolan only did the Batman movies so he could make 'his' movies: Inception and Interstellar. I read that when he was asked to do The Dark Knight, he would only agree to it if Warner Bros funded Inception. I think Nolan is in a position now where he can make whatever he wants and not have to make films for studios in order to receive backing for what he wants to make. If he is asked to do Bond, I would hope he does it because it is something that genuinely interests him as opposed to a sideshow for another film he has in the works that needs support.

The earth is dying trope with corn being all that is left pays homage to Nolan's struggle for wanting to make his movies. I found that to be an excellent analogy for the film industry today.

06-04-2015 5:47pm

I would rather see Nolan bring more original stories to the screen than insert himself into another franchise.

Mister Vain · 06-04-2015 8:40pm

One thing I noticed after watching Interstellar for the second time that I didn't pick up on in the cinema, is how Matthew almost whispers his lines throughout the film.

Hyzepher · 07-04-2015 4:30pm

Why did they only bring one woman

Ole Rodrigo · 07-04-2015 7:02pm

Falthyron wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Nolan only did the Batman movies so he could make 'his' movies: Inception and Interstellar. I read that when he was asked to do The Dark Knight, he would only agree to it if Warner Bros funded Inception. I think Nolan is in a position now where he can make whatever he wants and not have to make films for studios in order to receive backing for what he wants to make.

I don't know if Interstellar turned out to be the film he wanted to make. It struck me as a film with a lot of concessions to studio requirements for mass market appeal.

Inception on the other hand, didn't strike me as compromising.

Falthyron · 08-04-2015 2:05pm

Ole Rodrigo wrote: »

I don't know if Interstellar turned out to be the film he wanted to make. It struck me as a film with a lot of concessions to studio requirements for mass market appeal.

Inception on the other hand, didn't strike me as compromising.

I would agree with that. Technically there is no 'bad guy' in Interstellar. No ruthless foe, or crazy individual who seeks to change the world, etc. It isn't a conventional Hollywood story. I know some might say Matt Damon is the bad guy, but is he really? He wants to complete the mission he set out to do - all down to perspectives.

Was there drugs? No. Sex? No. Some bad language, and very little action. On top of all that, there was plenty of complicated science. Oh and it isn't a kids film. This was a very difficult film to sell to a financially conservative film studio in the current economic climate. So, I would agree that with all of this taken into consideration, Nolan may have been restrained and perhaps he didn't get to make Interstellar exactly how he wanted it. But when you break it down (sex, drugs, action, violence, language) and compare it to other blockbuster films, it is a very different sort of Hollywood movie.

Mickeroo · 08-04-2015 2:07pm

I'd be surprised if he was constrained at all tbh, he's reached a level of financial success with his last few films that would pretty much give him carte blanche at this stage I would have thought.

DoYouEvenLift · 08-04-2015 10:59pm

Falthyron wrote: »

I would agree with that. Technically there is no 'bad guy' in Interstellar. No ruthless foe, or crazy individual who seeks to change the world, etc. It isn't a conventional Hollywood story. I know some might say Matt Damon is the bad guy, but is he really? He wants to complete the mission he set out to do - all down to perspectives.

Was there drugs? No. Sex? No. Some bad language, and very little action. On top of all that, there was plenty of complicated science. Oh and it isn't a kids film. This was a very difficult film to sell to a financially conservative film studio in the current economic climate. So, I would agree that with all of this taken into consideration, Nolan may have been restrained and perhaps he didn't get to make Interstellar exactly how he wanted it. But when you break it down (sex, drugs, action, violence, language) and compare it to other blockbuster films, it is a very different sort of Hollywood movie.

He wanted to have more black holes and worm holes iirc but Kip Thorne is the one mostly responsible for that not happening. You can tell that either he or the studio forced little explanations for the general audience into the movie like the explanation of why the wormhole was spherical and how it works, there's no way any of the people on that mission would've needed that explained to them. Stuff like that's actually kind of annoying to see in movies.

I'd love if we got a directors cut that was entirely what they wanted to create, even if it was over three and a half hours long.

colossus-x · 09-04-2015 1:35am

Cooper looked shocked when he learned

there was no intention to transporting earths population to the new planet.

Before he learned this , how did Cooper think they were all going to get there ?

DoYouEvenLift · 09-04-2015 1:48am

colossus-x wrote: »

Cooper looked shocked when he learned
there was no intention to transporting earths population to the new planet.
Before he learned this , how did Cooper think they were all going to get there ?

The same way they actually did get Earth's population on the space stations?

the_monkey · 09-04-2015 10:37am

colossus-x wrote: »

Cooper looked shocked when he learned
there was no intention to transporting earths population to the new planet.
Before he learned this , how did Cooper think they were all going to get there ?

Michael Caine promised him he would solve the Gravity problem by the time he got back - hence why he was so pissed off when he found out he lied.

the_monkey · 09-04-2015 12:42pm

Mister Vain wrote: »

I thought Memento was awful, its just the same scenes over and over again. I haven't seen The Prestige yet so I might watch that.

Watch the prestige ... it's pure amazing ..

the_monkey · 09-04-2015 1:54pm

stankratz wrote: »

Clearly a case of 'whatever floats your boat'. What you'd rank as the worst on your list would be among my favourites. And your favourite would be among my least...

1. The Prestige
2. Interstellar (will probably only grow fonder over time)
3. Batman Begins
4. TDK/Memento
6. TDKR
7. Inception/Insomnia

I'm not at all suggesting that those are his best and worst movies in order, only my current preference and the level of enjoyment I get out of them. I relished the thoughts that Nolan was going to make a big budget movie about dream-thieves with that cast, but despite 3 viewings I'm still not gone on it. No sleep lost on my part, and I didn't occupy the Inception thread and try to shoot down any love the movie got.

We all be thinking with our different brains OP, at least we can agree that The Prestige is the shít. I just re-watched it last weekend and it still blows my mind. 10 years later and I still notice something new each time I watch it.

Similar ,
I'd have

1. The Prestige
2. Interstellar (this is like 2nd on Goal Difference

)
.
.
. {gulf in quality here ...}
.
.

3. The Dark Knight
4. Batman Begins
5. The Dark Knight Rises
6. Inception
7. Memento
.
. {similar gulf...}
.
8. Insomnia

I need to watch following.

Actually check this out (sorry if I already posted this before)

Nolans first film, interesting to see a theme of recursiveness here - we have seen this in his other films before

DoYouEvenLift · 09-04-2015 10:21pm

Not sure how you can't admire memento, it was a great accomplishment in storytelling through film and the reason we even know Nolan in the way we do today.

colossus-x · 10-04-2015 10:00pm

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

The same way they actually did get Earth's population on the space stations?

What like 3 ppl at a time ? lol Look below for a better answer : D

the_monkey wrote: »

Michael Caine promised him he would solve the Gravity problem by the time he got back - hence why he was so pissed off when he found out he lied.

Ah! So that's what all that was about : ) lol

DoYouEvenLift · 10-04-2015 10:41pm

colossus-x wrote: »

What like 3 ppl at a time ? lol Look below for a better answer : D

Ah! So that's what all that was about : ) lol

Not sure if serious, my answer was the same as the other post, I just didn't spell it out for you. If you actually watched the movie to the end you'd see they had far more than "like 3 ppl lol hehe" on the space station they showed and they also mentioned how there were more space stations since Murph was on another one and had to travel to Cooper's (that scene where that random old lady was in the bed at the end, surrounded by people, and Cooper walked in to visit her? Do you remember that? It was his DAUGHTER after all those years, mind blown!).

They got all those people, probably millions (that's six figures big, very large numbers here), on the space stations because Cooper (again, the main character) sent the data to solve gravity (that's the force that stops us from floating away lol) back to Murph.

theboy1 · 10-04-2015 10:48pm

Loved Interstellar.

Mcconaughey was very very orange!

namloc1980 · 14-04-2015 7:14am

Enjoyed the movie and the way they at least tried to do the science right but then there's stuff that totally makes no sense and that jars. Why do they need a big Saturn V type rocket to lift off from Earth but they have no problem using the little Ranger to fly off the two planets through the wormhole and the one nearest the black hole has significantly more gravity than Earth.

the_monkey · 14-04-2015 8:28am

namloc1980 wrote: »

Enjoyed the movie and the way they at least tried to do the science right but then there's stuff that totally makes no sense and that jars. Why do they need a big Saturn V type rocket to lift off from Earth but they have no problem using the little Ranger to fly off the two planets through the wormhole and the one nearest the black hole has significantly more gravity than Earth.

Save fuel I'd imagine.

Also the earth launch scene looks so much cooler and classic space travel
with this rocket - reminds me of the 1969 Moon launch ..
ah yeah as you say !

tok9 · 19-04-2015 12:41am

While similar to S.T.A.Y, this is the song I was looking for in the movie. Just heard it randomly tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUooEWENbTc

I really must give this another watch too.

_Kaiser_ · 19-04-2015 2:08pm

the_monkey wrote: »

Save fuel I'd imagine.

Also the earth launch scene looks so much cooler and classic space travel
with this rocket - reminds me of the 1969 Moon launch ..
ah yeah as you say !

O/T but you've just reminded me of this actually (skip to 2:58 - 3:25) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9XrrEaZ7Y4 .. hehe, make it spin!

I've rewatched this over the weekend though and while it's still technically amazing from a visual perspective the whole storyline and style is still all over the place. The Honest Trailer has it spot on IMO

Josey Wales · 19-04-2015 9:37pm

I just finished rewatching Interstellar for the first time. It looks phenomenal on bluray. I wish more studios would drop 3D for action movies and just film in IMAX format.

I think I enjoyed the film more the second time around. I guess I didn't find the final act as jarring as I did the first time.

Right Turn Clyde · 20-04-2015 10:20am

I re-watched this over the weekend. My main issue with the plot is the two planet visits. It reminded me of Mass Effect, pointlessly visiting places just to tick some boxes. And the whole Dr. Mann sequence didn't work for me. I simply didn't want it to be that kind of movie. It was really sold as an 'ideas' film and I'm not sure it is. Yes, it gets you thinking about some profound concepts, especially in the final scenes, but it's ultimately a popcorn movie, with terrible dialogue, cardboard characters, terrible dialogue, plot holes, and terrible dialogue. But... I really like it. There's some breathtaking visuals and the score is great. Plus, I cried, a number of times.

DoYouEvenLift · 20-04-2015 8:07pm

Josey Wales wrote: »

I just finished rewatching Interstellar for the first time. It looks phenomenal on bluray. I wish more studios would drop 3D for action movies and just film in IMAX format.

I think I enjoyed the film more the second time around. I guess I didn't find the final act as jarring as I did the first time.

Imax are working on updating more theatres with their new laser projectors which can apparently project as good a picture as 70mm imax and they've new cameras to make use of these so I'd say more blockbusters will start using being like this.

SuprSi · 23-04-2015 10:08am

I have been watching Interstellar at home in the evenings over the last week, when wifey goes to bed. It's taken me a good few days as I watched surfers paradise three times, the docking scene twice, and repeated various other bits. I finished it last night, just before midnight so I'm suitably tired and have the soundtrack blaring in my head from the moment I woke up! Not that that's a bad thing seeing as the soundtrack is stunning.

Having watched it on the small screen, it's clear that neither time nor gravity is going to change how much I love this movie

I'm actually really excited about watching those two key scenes again and I know I've said it before, but the whole docking scene, from where Mann gets into the Ranger and how the tension builds to when Coop finally docks, is just amazing.

It's still a 10/10 for me.

Simon2015 · 30-08-2015 2:07pm

Just watched it last night.

One thing I didn't get was why Matt Damons character was trying to kill Matthew McConaugheys character ?

Snake Plisken · 30-08-2015 2:49pm

Simon2015 wrote: »

Just watched it last night.

One thing I didn't get was why Matt Damons character was trying to kill Matthew McConaugheys character ?

I think it was because Cooper was going to leave the planet and get home, Prof Mann didn't want that to happen, thus kill the one remaining pilot.

cowboyBuilder · 31-08-2015 2:35pm

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I think it was because Cooper was going to leave the planet and get home, Prof Mann didn't want that to happen, thus kill the one remaining pilot.

I think Mann didn't want Coop taking the shuttle, he wanted it to go on to Edmunds planet ..

Mickeroo · 31-08-2015 2:38pm

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

I think Mann didn't want Coop taking the shuttle, he wanted it to go on to Edmunds planet ..

I think Mann wanted to go back to earth because he was a coward.

cowboyBuilder · 31-08-2015 11:33pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

I think Mann wanted to go back to earth because he was a coward.

I could be wrong, but didn´t he say just

before he was blown out the airlock

that he was taking over the mission and they would proceed to Edmonds planet ?

I could be wrong ..

don ramo · 31-08-2015 11:40pm

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

I could be wrong, but didn´t he say just
before he was blown out the airlock
that he was taking over the mission and they would proceed to Edmonds planet ?

I could be wrong ..

you are, coop told mann he was heading back to earth, that he had to head back, mann said his planet was viable, and played along so he could get rid of coop, and head to edmunds planet, he knew coop was never gonna go there,

mann was an selfish glory hunter, and wanted to be the savior of humanity, or at least the next generation of it,

dont even know why this debate has gone past 3 posts,

2smiggy · 01-09-2015 10:15am

finally watched this last week when I seen it was on sky premier. Excellent film, thought it started a bit slow, but when it got going got me really enthralled !! I will definitely watch it again soon. Great atmosphere , sound effects and cinematography

cowboyBuilder · 01-09-2015 11:08am

don ramo wrote: »

you are, coop told mann he was heading back to earth, that he had to head back, mann said his planet was viable, and played along so he could get rid of coop, and head to edmunds planet, he knew coop was never gonna go there,

mann was an selfish glory hunter, and wanted to be the savior of humanity, or at least the next generation of it,

dont even know why this debate has gone past 3 posts,

Sorry ... youre right

cowboyBuilder · 26-11-2015 3:18pm

Bump, saw this again on 70MM Dolby DTS sound ... still great ..

errlloyd · 26-11-2015 3:28pm

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

Bump, saw this again on 70MM Dolby DTS sound ... still great ..

In Barcelona?

cowboyBuilder · 26-11-2015 3:30pm

errlloyd wrote: »

In Barcelona?

Yep indeed ..
http://www.phenomena-experience.com/programacion.php

he is showing it on Sunday again - but I'll leave it till next years screening

NUTZZ · 07-12-2015 2:45pm

Hans Zimmer is playing the 3Arena in May next year with the Interstellar score sure to play a big part!

J Mysterio · 27-04-2016 1:55am

Sorry to bump but just watched this and, honestly, I don't understand what people see in it? It was nice to look at Jessica Chastain but other than that... Was fairly terrible?

I just dont get how this has got such universal acclaim and great ratings all over....

Dave_The_Sheep · 27-04-2016 3:26pm

Well, I'm sure you'll get a good response with all those nuanced arguments and well made points regarding the bad points of the film.

Some reasons I liked it:
- Decent sci fi plot which kept the science fairly hard (up until the last 15 minutes anyways)
- Great visuals, audio and sountrack was really really good.
- Cast - yep, pretty much all good, a few exceptions.
- The sense of scale, the distance and time involved in their journey made me a little uncomfortable at times (and I'd see that as a good thing).

That's just off the top of my head.

BMMachine · 27-04-2016 3:48pm

J Mysterio wrote: »

It was nice to look at Jessica Chastain but other than that... Was fairly terrible?

You know, this probably sums up why you didnt like it better than anything we can say

jones · 27-04-2016 4:03pm

BMMachine wrote: »

You know, this probably sums up why you didnt like it better than anything we can say

It's crazy she's not even that hot

:D:D:D

Simon2015 · 27-04-2016 4:08pm

At least Interstellar was easier to follow than Inception.

J Mysterio · 27-04-2016 4:17pm

I enjoyed Gravity and really enjoyed The Martian but this was just a bit sh1t. There was good potential but...

jcsoulinger · 27-04-2016 6:10pm

J Mysterio wrote: »

this was just a bit sh1t.

Lol, Would love to see your opinion on something truly awful.

BoJack Horseman · 27-04-2016 6:16pm

Loved it.
I thought it was great.

Sure, the plot was out there & it was annoying how Matthew Mahogany named his daughter after a pet dog.
But I enjoyed it thoroughly

Screen-junkes did an amusing trailer for it:

Snake Plisken · 27-04-2016 6:35pm

I am a big Nolan fan and while this is an outstanding movie I think Matthew McConaughey was mis-cast as Cooper, didn't really find he had the emotional range for the role! Also found some the writing and dialogue clunky, an example is Brand is supposed to be a serious scientist but she comes out about love means something and that's why they should head for her boyfriends planet.
So yes I do love the movie but it would be well down my top 10.
I'm not sure what I think about his next movie Dunkirk, it will be interesting to see what us Nolan geeks will make of it!

ktulu123 · 28-04-2016 9:04pm

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I think Matthew McConaughey was mis-cast as Cooper, didn't really find he had the emotional range for the role!

I am a grown ass man and actually shed a tear watching his face when he was driving away from his family. He was perfect in the role imo

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