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Should i bite the bullet in zurich?

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  • 01-07-2014 3:14pm
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    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    So im not having too much luck with linked in and a few others for i.t jobs.
    Should i just wing it and try my best when i get over there (not planning on going until sep or oct) Anyone in zurich think this is good or bad idea?

    Thanks:)


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    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 9,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    zweton wrote: »
    Hi,

    So im not having too much luck with linked in and a few others for i.t jobs.
    Should i just wing it and try my best when i get over there (not planning on going until sep or oct) Anyone in zurich think this is good or bad idea?

    Thanks:)

    Been here for over 20 years! If you are looking for a permanent role, then you should know that the notice period is normally 3 months, so the recruiting process can be slow at times. And of course it also depends on your IT skills and whether they are in demand skills or not.

    If you have any questions please post them and we'll try to answer them for you.


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    zweton wrote: »
    Hi,

    So im not having too much luck with linked in and a few others for i.t jobs.
    Should i just wing it and try my best when i get over there (not planning on going until sep or oct) Anyone in zurich think this is good or bad idea?

    Thanks:)

    I think this would be a bad idea considering Zurich is such an expensive place.

    I would say your better off searching from Ireland since they'll normally have a relocation portion in the job offer.


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    Jim2007
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    keithclancy wrote: »
    they'll normally have a relocation portion in the job offer.

    Yes before the recession we used to even fly people in for interviews and tours of Zurich, but that was then and this is now. These days unless you are going for a very senior role, you'll find that relocation expenses are not very generous if at all at most companies.


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    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    keithclancy wrote: »
    I think this would be a bad idea considering Zurich is such an expensive place.

    I would say your better off searching from Ireland since they'll normally have a relocation portion in the job offer.

    was thinking of booking into a hostel for a month or so to reduce costs.


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    keith16
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    zweton wrote: »
    was thinking of booking into a hostel for a month or so to reduce costs.

    Sorry to be harsh man, but what's the advantage is it going to give you? You're not going to walk around places handing in CVs, are you?

    Check jobup.ch and others like it. Search using job keywords that relate to you - "Cisco", "SQL" etc.

    Apply for jobs in English, even if the description is in German / French or even if they say the language is a requirement.

    Tailor each application individually, adjusting your CV and cover letter to address the requirements in the job spec. Yes, it takes time and effort, but general applications generally fail.


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    The Hill Billy
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    Definitely do not move to Zürich until you have a job. You will only be chucking your money away. Nothing is cheap. Most things are very expensive until you start pulling in a comparable Swiss wage.


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    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    keith16 wrote: »
    Sorry to be harsh man, but what's the advantage is it going to give you? You're not going to walk around places handing in CVs, are you?

    Check jobup.ch and others like it. Search using job keywords that relate to you - "Cisco", "SQL" etc.

    Apply for jobs in English, even if the description is in German / French or even if they say the language is a requirement.

    Tailor each application individually, adjusting your CV and cover letter to address the requirements in the job spec. Yes, it takes time and effort, but general applications generally fail.

    my thinking on this was to have a swiss address on my cv so i would be taken a bit more seriously, at least that way they would know im there.
    Also it would allow me get setup with a swiss phone number.


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    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,746 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Recruitment is Switz can be a slow process. You could find that it takes a couple of months from applying for a role to actually starting the job. In that period you would need a lot of cash to keep you going. Seriously - do your job searching from home. Let the recruitment agencies do the local leg-work for you.


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    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    ok thanks guys :-)


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    keith16
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    zweton wrote: »
    my thinking on this was to have a swiss address on my cv so i would be taken a bit more seriously, at least that way they would know im there.
    Also it would allow me get setup with a swiss phone number.

    In the grand scheme of things, not that important at all. The content of your CV in terms of skills and experience is much much more important.

    Getting a Swiss phone number is only important once you secure work and are house-hunting over there! I would have done a number of interviews by phone, they call my Irish number. And I used skype a fair bit too.
    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    Recruitment is Switz can be a slow process. You could find that it takes a couple of months from applying for a role to actually starting the job. In that period you would need a lot of cash to keep you going. Seriously - do your job searching from home. Let the recruitment agencies do the local leg-work for you.

    Fully agree with this.


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    zweton wrote: »
    my thinking on this was to have a swiss address on my cv so i would be taken a bit more seriously, at least that way they would know im there.
    Also it would allow me get setup with a swiss phone number.

    A hostel address wouldn't be of much use anyway, you couldn't open a bank account or register with the City Hall.


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    triggermortis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    You cant get anything set up until you have a permit so I'd advise against coming here first and then looking for work. Switzerland is a maze of red tape and rules.
    As already said, it's very expensive and there will probably be a delay to starting even if you were to find a job straight away.
    Best of luck with it


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    zeirtz
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    zweton wrote: »
    my thinking on this was to have a swiss address on my cv so i would be taken a bit more seriously, at least that way they would know im there.
    Also it would allow me get setup with a swiss phone number.

    I haven't had a physical address on any CV since the invention of email. It won't matter. My advice would be to
    1. Google for jobs over there with skill + location
    2. Use Swiss job sites as others have suggested.
    3. Use your network on linkedin and see if there are 2nd or 3rd level contacts who work in the same area as your intended job function. Ping them directly and ask if any openings are coming up.


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