Curry my yoghurt!

Don Kedick · 23-11-2014 9:35pm

Loughside must love washing them dishes.

23-11-2014 9:38pm

loughside wrote: »

now, when you went to primary school (did you??!!) that leaves 97% who spoke what ????

yes, you got it --> ENGLISH

.. take your time...

No not all of the 97%, some speak Polish or Russian, French, German, Urdu or one of the many other languages that recent migrants have brought with them.

Some even speak Ulster Scots.

Karl Stein · 23-11-2014 9:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Think ya tripped up a little bit there.

Britain is to the East of Ireland?

Karl Stein · 23-11-2014 9:44pm

loughside wrote: »

LOL, don`t get yerself worked up intil a state now..

I'm quite calm.

listen up to this fact..

Irrelevant. Why do you have a problem with people using Irish in Stormont?

loughside · 23-11-2014 9:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

No not all of the 97%, some speak Polish or Russian, French, German, Urdu or one of the many other languages that recent migrants have brought with them.

Some even speak Ulster Scots.

True, not all, but probably 99% of the remaining 97, and of course Ulster Scots isn`t a true language more of a dialect.

Have nothing against the Irish language at all, but to see it being used in government only as a tool to goad and inflame `the other side` by well dressed terrorists is disgusting and does nothing to promote it.

Karl Stein · 23-11-2014 9:55pm

loughside wrote: »

the Irish language ... being used in government only as a tool to goad and inflame

How is using the Irish language goading? Afaia they use it in a ceremonial fashion, like in Dáil Éireann, and repeat what they say in English.

Are you aware that demand to learn Irish is soaring in East Belfast? The Irish language doesn't belong to Republicans.

loughside · 23-11-2014 11:43pm

Right, lets look at it this way. As the Irish language enjoys constitutional status as the national and first official language of ROI, why then is it not used exclusively in Dáil Éireann? Whats this foreign English lingo about then?

Simple - nobody can fully communicate in it.

Also if Campbell were a member in Dáil Éireann and started babbling on in UlsterScotch, something a very few understands, he would be looked upon as taking the pi$$, and rightfully so.

ZeroThreat · 23-11-2014 11:55pm

loughside wrote: »

Gregory is spot on and to be applauded, a seat of British local government is no place to air republican sectarianism in the form of this gobblety gook lingo.

Simply another trouble-stirring stunt from our Armani clad terrorists in Stormont.

If certain elements want to follow this then pursue it as a hobby or take it up at night-school or whatever - not use it as a tool to inflame and incite their fellow countrymen.

I agree, we need less of the Leprechaun language heard within the halls of power.

GLaDOS · 24-11-2014 12:45am

loughside wrote: »

in the form of this gobblety gook lingo.

ZeroThreat wrote: »

I agree, we need less of the Leprechaun language heard within the halls of power.

Debate the merits of the Irish language all you want, but keep it respectful. Posts like the above are trolling and bans will be handed out if people can't post without resorting to childish insults.

loughside · 24-11-2014 1:31am

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Debate the merits of the Irish language all you want, but keep it respectful. Posts like the above are trolling and bans will be handed out if people can't post without resorting to childish insults.

Mod, you`re missing the whole point, nothing to do with trolling,

there`s absolutely nothing wrong with any language be it Irish, English or whatever, but in this case it`s patently clear it`s use was primarily to agitate and inflame the unionist politicians.

Even the majority of the SF members can`t communicate in Irish let alone anyone else - so why use it??

Campbell was doing nothing more than poking fun back at SF and they know that,

yes... SF, offended by everything, ashamed of nothing

Laura Palmer · 24-11-2014 1:38am

loughside wrote: »

Mod, you`re missing the whole point, nothing to do with trolling,

there`s absolutely nothing wrong with any language be it Irish, English or whatever, but in this case it`s patently clear it`s use was primarily to agitate and inflame the unionist politicians.

Even the majority of the SF members can`t communicate in Irish let alone anyone else - so why use it??

Campbell was doing nothing more than poking fun back at SF and they know that,

yes... SF, offended by everything, ashamed of nothing

I love the being ok with a politician using such derogatory, inflammatory, bigoted turns of phrase.
But oh yeh, he's loyalist so it's fine - must bow before our loyalist betters!

You did say there was something wrong with the Irish language - you called it "gobblety gook" (sic) and aligned it with republican sectarianism (

).

loughside · 24-11-2014 1:43am

Laura Palmer wrote: »

I love the being ok with a politician using such derogatory, inflammatory, bigoted turns of phrase.
But oh yeh, he's loyalist so it's fine - must bow before our loyalist betters!

AND,

I love the being ok with the whinges and whines of a collection of murderous gangsters
But oh yeh, they`re `ex-terrorists` so it's fine - must bow before our republican betters!

Karl Stein · 24-11-2014 1:50am

Hey Loughside, why are you ignoring my questions?

Karl Stein wrote: »

What exactly is Republican sectarianism and how does speaking Irish 'air' it.

Karl Stein wrote: »

Why do you have a problem with people using Irish in Stormont?

Karl Stein wrote: »

How is using the Irish language goading?

loughside · 24-11-2014 2:11am

you`re asking questions you already know the answers to..... but i`ll play along just for the crack (craic!!)

sectarianism is divisive you`ll agree, hence the use of a language (that divides) that no one in Stormont including most of that particular party btw understands - so why do they do that?

To be provocative and bigoted of course,

but, Hey, you already knew that didn`t you

Laura Palmer · 24-11-2014 2:13am

Provocative maybe, bigoted - how so?

But provocation, bigotry, goading, sectarianism... they're fine from Gregory Campbell.

loughside · 24-11-2014 2:18am

Laura Palmer wrote: »

provocation, bigotry, goading, sectarianism... they're fine from Gregory Campbell.

Eh?? !!

"Curry my yoghurt can coca coalyer"

please show me the provocation, bigotry, goading and sectarianism in that ??

what dictionary do you use?

Karl Stein · 24-11-2014 2:23am

loughside wrote: »

To be provocative and bigoted of course

How is using Irish in Stormont provocative and bigoted?

Paramite Pie · 24-11-2014 6:08am

loughside wrote: »

Eh?? !!

"Curry my yoghurt can coca coalyer"

please show me the provocation, bigotry, goading and sectarianism in that ??

what dictionary do you use?

If you don't see mocking Irish pronunciation as goading or divisive then how is the actual language itself divisive?

Had he pronounced it properly you'd probably be up in arms!!!

I do recall the Unionists of the 1890-1914 era and their famous "Erin go Bragh" slogan. How quick they forget their own history.:rolleyes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjkP-3YCAAACTtK.png

The Black Oil · 24-11-2014 11:44am

SF are well known for their use Irish to tick off the unionists. It's probably in the 'but it's our culture!' guidelines somewhere. Neither side in NI have a monopoly on tolerance.

It's less the content of what Campbell said and rather the gesture behind it. He is trolling and attention seeking. This is a nod to his base, fan service and out of the political muppetry playbook. Don't waste your time getting 'offended' about what he said. Be offended by his lack of imagination and need to distract from the executive's budget, the NI health service and whatever other issues they should get getting on with. The best response is probably to ignore, or get him on a news panel and troll him back about curry recipes.

loughside · 24-11-2014 2:07pm

Well, here we have it, the standard republican murder threat - says it all really,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-30175412

hope you`re all happy now

bobmalooka · 24-11-2014 2:51pm

loughside wrote: »

Well, here we have it, the standard republican murder threat - says it all really,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-30175412

hope you`re all happy now

I'm pretty sure you're happier than anyone else here that this threat was made

loughside · 24-11-2014 2:54pm

bobmalooka wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you're happier than anyone else here that this threat was made

and please explain your reasoning for that??

also i note your condemnation of said threat..

aye right.

bobmalooka · 24-11-2014 3:00pm

loughside wrote: »

and please explain your reasoning for that??

also i note your condemnation of said threat..

aye right.

I don't feel a need to state my condemnation of that behaviour, it says a lot about your mentality that you do.

I'm not the one actively defending inflammatory policies based on sectarianism.

Fuhrer · 24-11-2014 3:02pm

loughside wrote: »

and please explain your reasoning for that??

also i note your condemnation of said threat..

aye right.

He's right, you seem delighted.

loughside · 24-11-2014 3:04pm

bobmalooka wrote: »

I don't feel a need to state my condemnation of that behaviour

Noted.

but if it was a unionist poking fun instead of a murder threat you`d be all over it like a rash.

nothing like getting your priorities right - nice attitude

bobmalooka · 24-11-2014 3:20pm

loughside wrote: »

Noted.

but if it was a unionist poking fun instead of a murder threat you`d be all over it like a rash.

nothing like getting your priorities right - nice attitude

Whoever made the threat isn't elected to govern.

Do you not see why elected representatives have a higher responsibility to not feed into the vicious cycle of hatred and division?

The primary holders of power/responsibility to break that cycle lies with those who govern.

If you don't understand that then I'll have to leave it there.

iDave · 24-11-2014 3:35pm

loughside wrote: »

gobblety gook lingo.

loughside wrote: »

Have nothing against the Irish language at all

Sure you don't :rolleyes:

loughside · 24-11-2014 3:39pm

iDave wrote: »

Sure you don't :rolleyes:

Have nothing against Swahili either,

but it`s all gobblety-gook to me

and you as well.

ps, i do however note your condemnation of the death threat

:rolleyes:

iDave · 24-11-2014 3:44pm

Have nothing against Swahili either,

but it`s all gobblety-gook to me

Not understanding a language ≠ 'gobblety-gook'

and you as well.

Sound

ps, i do however note your condemnation of the death threat

but but but what about.....

loughside · 24-11-2014 3:45pm

bobmalooka wrote: »

Whoever made the threat isn't elected to govern.

Do you not see why elected representatives have a higher responsibility to not feed into the vicious cycle of hatred and division?

The primary holders of power/responsibility to break that cycle lies with those who govern.

If you don't understand that then I'll have to leave it there.

Yes, a lot to be said for that,

but do you remember Paisley referring to Cowan i think it was as `ole rubber lips`? That was laughed off at the time and nothing remarked on it.

There are just some sections now that go out of their way to be offended

Curry my yoghurt!

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