UFC 181. Hendricks Vs Lawler / Pettis Vs Melendez

martyos121 · 07-12-2014 6:34am

Worst part about this result is that Rory will more than likely have to wait for his shot, because there's no way they don't give Hendricks a rematch unfortunately.

ianob7 · 07-12-2014 6:34am

Andersonisgod wrote: »

49-46!?!? How? What were they watching for rounds 2,3 and 4?

Ya thought Hendricks would've at least have a split win if not unanimous..

2ndcoming · 07-12-2014 6:34am

Hendricks screwed over again. No two ways about it.

Cyber Ghost · 07-12-2014 6:35am

Insta rematch I'd say.

Sammon and Showtime for performance.

Not sure about FOTN

kumate_champ07 · 07-12-2014 6:36am

wow, was following it on bleacherreport and they scored it 48-47 to Hendricks, figured he did just enough to hold on to it
I wanted Lawler to win, did he deserve it?!

ianob7 · 07-12-2014 6:36am

Stupid TD attempts cost Hendricks imo

Utopia Parkway · 07-12-2014 6:36am

Weird result. I actually felt Lawler fought better in the first fight when he clearly won 2 full rounds. He had about 2 or 3 good minutes out of 25 in the rematch but won it.

stealinhorses · 07-12-2014 6:36am

Bad enough fight, but how did Lawler win 4 rounds in the eyes of the judges is beyond me. Great last round and a solid start to the fight, but for about 20 minutes he was outfought by Hendricks (though not by a huge margin). I'm happy for him and I think he is a better fighter, but not convinced by his performance on the night.

Cyber Ghost · 07-12-2014 6:36am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

I wanted Lawler to win, did he deserve it?!

Yes cause Hendricks did nothing the last 2 rounds.

darced · 07-12-2014 6:37am

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Cyber Ghost · 07-12-2014 6:38am

Man Hendricks has some chin though.

That front head kick knocks out most of the division.

ianob7 · 07-12-2014 6:38am

Why no interviews with Joe ??

Cyber Ghost · 07-12-2014 6:39am

ianob7 wrote: »

Why no interviews with Joe ??

There was with Robbie.

Good night everyone !

martyos121 · 07-12-2014 6:40am

Well that was a very solid night of fights, some great finishes too.

See ye for the TUF 20 Finale!

EuskalHerria · 07-12-2014 6:41am

ianob7 wrote: »

Why no interviews with Joe ??

There was one with Lawler. He seemed incredibly angry. Like a robot programmed to fight, unable to feel any joy at winning a belt.

I can imagine the trash talk between him and MacDonald would be....pulsating.

ianob7 · 07-12-2014 6:41am

Stream cut out thought I was back fast enough though ! obviously missed inbetween

Wrongway1985 · 07-12-2014 6:41am

Delighted for Robbie!! Had it 48-47 for Hendricks though.

Devastator · 07-12-2014 6:42am

I wanted Lawler to win the fight but there is no way he did so tonight! I couldn't believe it it was even going to a split decision.

I'm happy anyway because I got my 2 bets in with 5/5 picks

weemcd · 07-12-2014 6:44am

Somebody giving Lawler a 10/8 in the 5th round there is my guess. Winning him the fight

Cyber Ghost · 07-12-2014 6:46am

Devastator wrote: »

I wanted Lawler to win the fight but there is no way he did so tonight! I couldn't believe it it was even going to a split decision.

I'm happy anyway because I got my 2 bets in with 5/5 picks

Yeah my Pettis/Browne/Robbie treble came in

Utopia Parkway · 07-12-2014 6:47am

weemcd wrote: »

Somebody giving Lawler a 10/8 in the 5th round there is my guess. Winning him the fight

That would be insane.

Devastator · 07-12-2014 6:58am

Hendricks was fighting not to loose the fight in the last round and Lawler went to try and win it.

Can't argue with the aggressor but there would be no controversy if Lawler had done that earlier in the fight

darced · 07-12-2014 7:05am

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Mellor · 07-12-2014 7:39am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

wow, was following it on bleacherreport and they scored it 48-47 to Hendricks, figured he did just enough to hold on to it
I wanted Lawler to win, did he deserve it?!

I scored it 48-47 too.
Posted my scores along the way as they were grim rounds as could see something like this happening.

ASOT · 07-12-2014 8:51am

Mellor wrote: »

True. But I think that was a bit if a freak sub at the time. He had broke him on the feet and should do the sane to Gil imo.

He got his purple belt for subbing Bendo. He'll gets brown if he subs Gil.

Davei141 wrote: »

Pretty much. Noway in hell is Melendez getting submitted.

Cough :pac:

Absolute robbery for Lawler but im not fussed, id like to see at 3rd fight so this is one way of getting it!

ASOT · 07-12-2014 9:26am

ASOT · 07-12-2014 9:28am

Last post in a row sorry got carried away, Absolutely delighted for Samman hes a beast, glad hes finally getting to show it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6EWH8LKUSw

Mellor · 07-12-2014 9:29am

weemcd wrote: »

Somebody giving Lawler a 10/8 in the 5th round there is my guess. Winning him the fight

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10-8 in the last would make it a draw, not a win for Robbie.

The scores don't match a 10-8 round. A 10-8 makes it 47-47, 48-46, etc

darced wrote: »

End of the fourth round too Hendricks just held on to a single and lay there eating body shots like he gave up or something,really stupid stuff from Hendricks.

It's pretty much the 4th that lost Hendricks the fight.

The two judges who scored it for Lawlor both have him rounds 1,4&5.
(The 49-46 judge gave him rd 2 also).
Lawlor actually landed more strikes in the 4th.

ASOT · 07-12-2014 9:37am

Looks like Khabib is next, he interrupted the presser at around the 3 minute mark. Pettis with a does he speak English remark....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5VPnxuq828

Uriah has the bum chin of all bum chins :pac:

John_D80 · 07-12-2014 12:43pm

Just watched this now.

48-47 in favour of Lawler for me. No question.

I always check the results in the morning and if there is talk of a controversial decision I watch the fight with the sound off and do my best to look at it like a judge would. Deffo Lawler for me.

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 1:05pm

ASOT wrote: »

Cough :pac:

Absolute robbery for Lawler but im not fussed, id like to see at 3rd fight so this is one way of getting it!

Haha good shout well done man!

That is a disgrace of a decision. Robbie Lawler won maybe the first 90 seconds of the fight and the last round. Hendricks smashed him during the rest of it no doubt about it. Up there with the worst decision of all time...I am going to watch it again but that is pure crap, saying that as a huge Robbie Lawler fan.

Devastator · 07-12-2014 1:47pm

John_D80 wrote: »

Just watched this now.

48-47 in favour of Lawler for me. No question.

I always check the results in the morning and if there is talk of a controversial decision I watch the fight with the sound off and do my best to look at it like a judge would. Deffo Lawler for me.

LOL WHAT? Must have just been a coincidence that you scored it for Lawler but absolutely everyone(except 2 judges) watching it live scored it for Hendricks

How about watching the fights and making up your mind before you look at results

Mellor · 07-12-2014 1:59pm

John_D80 wrote: »

Just watched this now.

48-47 in favour of Lawler for me. No question.

I always check the results in the morning and if there is talk of a controversial decision I watch the fight with the sound off and do my best to look at it like a judge would. Deffo Lawler for me.

Which rounds did you give Lawlor ?

Even with the sound off people are still influenced by knowing the result, especially a controversial one.

Devastator · 07-12-2014 2:00pm

Just found this posted on twitter.....dunno what the pink judge was watching 4 rds to 1? :eek:

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Devastator · 07-12-2014 2:01pm

Mellor wrote: »

Which rounds did you give Lawlor ?

Even with the sound off people are still influenced my knowing the result, especially a controversial one.

lol maybe I should remove the photo of the scorecard incase theres another coincidence

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 2:09pm

Watched the fight again, first was very close Lawler came out swinging at the start (first 2 mins) and practically faded for the next 17+ minutes, done OK for the last minute of the 4th (despite being beaten for the other 4 minutes) and won the last minute decisively in the 5th (Close up until that point). It seems people are giving him the 4th round because hes Robbie Lawler and nobody likes Hendricks, even going so far as taking points away from Hendricks for going for take-downs. 1st Close either way 2/3/4 Hendricks 5th for Lawler.

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 2:22pm

Mellor wrote: »

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Lawlor actually landed more strikes in the 4th.

This isn't true. I know there are lots of stats floating about (I have seen stats that have Hendricks 23 strikes to Lawlers 19) but watch the 4th again, id say that last 20 seconds are big time skewing them figures with the shots during the take down. Hendricks won the vast majority of that round.

JacksonHeightsOwn · 07-12-2014 2:23pm

i miss the 25 year old GSP. He'd beat the pi$$ out of the two of them eejits on the same night, and barely break a sweat.

Hendricks didnt go out to win the fight, he went out not to lose. Delighted Lawler got the decision. Yeah, it was close, but at least he went there to win.

John_D80 · 07-12-2014 2:37pm

Devastator wrote: »

LOL WHAT? Must have just been a coincidence that you scored it for Lawler but absolutely everyone(except 2 judges) watching it live scored it for Hendricks

How about watching the fights and making up your mind before you look at results

You can speak for absolutely everyone who watched this fight?? Ok, if that's the case, point taken.

5th was a no brainer. 4th was lawlers also, more strikes landed and totally nullified any attempt at control by Hendricks. 3rd and second were both clearly Hendricks. 1st was close but I gave it to Lawler.

Whenever the exchanges were going Lawlers way Hendricks thought he could get through by lay and pray and controlling Lawler on the mat but he got burned by Lawlers greatly improved defensive wrestling and TDD.

Apologies if my opinion differs from the masses but try not to be offended old boy. Obviously if the majority disagree, then I absolutely must be wrong. :-)

Mellor · 07-12-2014 2:42pm

Davei141 wrote: »

This isn't true.

Yes it is true. He landed more total strikes.
[url]www.fightmetric.com:8081/events/fight-info/5056/[/url]
Hendricks had more significant strikes.
23-19
But Lawlor had more total strikes. 30-23

Devastator · 07-12-2014 2:42pm

John_D80 wrote: »

You can speak for absolutely everyone who watched this fight?? Ok, if that's the case, point taken.

5th was a no brainer. 4th was lawlers also, more strikes landed and totally nullified any attempt at control by Hendricks. 3rd and second were both clearly Hendricks. 1st was close but I gave it to Lawler.

Whenever the exchanges were going Lawlers way Hendricks thought he could get through by lay and pray and controlling Lawler on the mat but he got burned by Lawlers greatly improved defensive wrestling and TDD.

Apologies if my opinion differs from the masses but try not to be offended old boy. Obviously if the majority disagree, then I absolutely must be wrong. :-)

well I can speak for absolutely everyone watching the fight live and posting what they thought on here & twitter(who I follow).

I'm not offended

how or why could I be?

I just don't see it as YOUR opinion as you already knew result

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 2:44pm

chrisbonnie wrote: »

i miss the 25 year old GSP. He'd beat the pi$$ out of the two of them eejits on the same night, and barely break a sweat.

Hendricks didnt go out to win the fight, he went out not to lose. Delighted Lawler got the decision. Yeah, it was close, but at least he went there to win.

I laugh every time i see this parroted. It is so meaningless. Lawler was pretty inactive during large parts of that fight, so much so that Pat Milletech came over to tell him to take the fight to Hendricks and Rogan and Co started speculating that he busted up his hand. Hendricks tried to stall also during parts of it but people are very quiet on the Lawler front.

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 2:51pm

Mellor wrote: »

Yes it is true. He landed more total strikes.
[url]www.fightmetric.com:8081/events/fight-info/5056/[/url]
Hendricks had more significant strikes.
23-19
But Lawlor had more total strikes. 30-23

Apologies. After watching that round again it is easy to use stats to skew how a round went, Hendricks won that round with the better strikes IMO and Lawler would have got his stats up with a lot of strikes at the very end when Hendricks was going for the TD, Hendricks Won 4+ minutes of that round.

Lawler performed far better in the first fight and still lost 3-2 fairly, take from that what you will.

John_D80 · 07-12-2014 2:54pm

Devastator wrote: »

well I can speak for absolutely everyone watching the fight live and posting what they thought on here & twitter(who I follow).

I'm not offended how or why could I be?

I just don't see it as YOUR opinion as you already knew result

Its MY opinion.

Lawler pushed the action from the off and took the fight effectively to hendricks. Many off the people complaining about the result are the same people who crib about wrestlers killing fights by laying and praying. For once the guy who tried to kill the fight didn't win and i'm delighted for it.

This was obviously what hendricks WANTED to do but it bit him in the arse this time. Lawler wanted to fight, Hendricks was just trying not to lose (if that makes any sense!! lol).

A friend of mine who was at the fight, posted on facebook afterwards that anyone he was with or sitting near, called it for Robbie Lawler

John_D80 · 07-12-2014 2:57pm

Davei141 wrote: »

Apologies. After watching that round again it is easy to use stats to skew how a round went, Hendricks won that round with the better strikes IMO and Lawler would have got his stats up with a lot of strikes at the very end when Hendricks was going for the TD, Hendricks Won 4+ minutes of that round.

Lawler performed far better in the first fight and still lost 3-2 fairly, take from that what you will.

In fairness, both men were better in the first fight.

Sticking your head in between a guys thighs and holding onto his leg doesnt count as a takedown attempt when you're just lying there trying to maintain a neutral position and counting out the clock.

Devastator · 07-12-2014 3:00pm

Trying to agree with someone else's opinion does not make it your own.

Bit of advice - try watching fights in future without knowing the results and what other peoples opinions are, its much more fun!!

Awkward Badger · 07-12-2014 3:02pm

Only seen the Hendricks Lawlor fight now, fell asleep last night. Absolutely delighted for Lawlor and thrilled Hendricks didn't managed to steal the win with all the dud takedowns, clinches and time wasting.

When you spend the last two rounds holding on and hiding to kill time while the crowd boo's the ref keeps breaking it up to try make you fight you don't deserve to have a title.

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 3:02pm

John_D80 wrote: »

Its MY opinion.

Lawler pushed the action from the off and took the fight effectively to hendricks. Many off the people complaining about the result are the same people who crib about wrestlers killing fights by laying and praying. For once the guy who tried to kill the fight didn't win and i'm delighted for it.

This was obviously what hendricks WANTED to do but it bit him in the arse this time. Lawler wanted to fight, Hendricks was just trying not to lose (if that makes any sense!! lol).

A friend of mine who was at the fight, posted on facebook afterwards that anyone he was with or sitting near, called it for Robbie Lawler

It is pretty obvious most people wanted Lawler to win (myself included) and are now trying to do mental gymnastics to justify the result. The same crowd that were extremely pro Robbie and booed Hendricks constantly? Shocking.

Davei141 · 07-12-2014 3:04pm

John_D80 wrote: »

In fairness, both men were better in the first fight.

Sticking your head in between a guys thighs and holding onto his leg doesnt count as a takedown attempt when you're just lying there trying to maintain a neutral position and counting out the clock.

Not defending that at all. But when Lawler stood there for ages doing nothing after 2 minutes he was "conserving his energy".. people can at least be consistent to both fighters.

Awkward Badger · 07-12-2014 3:09pm

Davei141 wrote: »

It is pretty obvious most people wanted Lawler to win (myself included) and are now trying to do mental gymnastics to justify the result. The same crowd that were extremely pro Robbie and booed Hendricks constantly? Shocking.

Its not mental gymnastics though. Its like this, if you leave a fight to be that close it can go either way. Hendricks was anti fighting in those last two rounds. And it cost him big time. At the end of the last two rounds he didn't so much take down Robbie as put himself in a position where Robbie could T-Off while Hendricks covered up. It was probably wasn't far off in round 4 to being stopped because Hendricks wasn't fighting or making much of an effort to defend himself. For me Robbie won the first and last two rounds. No mental gymnastics required.

UFC 181. Hendricks Vs Lawler / Pettis Vs Melendez

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