CHELSEA General Discussion and Rumours 07/08

--amadeus-- · 21-04-2008 10:39am

Hi,

Don't know if any of you are going to the game but there are plans for some form of tribute to a young Liverpool fan who is dying of cancer (story and links here). LFC fans are trying to spread the word; the plan seems to be some sort of chant or round of applause that will be picked up on TV and that he'll hear when he watches the match. A couple of banners have also been made. We'd appreciate it if you could pass the word on through other Chelsea forums so that anyone who is there knows what is going on.

Thanks

CHD · 21-04-2008 10:56am

Unearthly wrote: »

Fair play

Nice to see a Chelsea fan supporting the team and manager for a change, especially only being 2 points behind the leaders in April and a CL semi final coming up.

Thank you!

I think hes probably walked into one of the toughest jobs around especially after Mourinho leaving.He brought us deep into every competition.We can still win two of the biggest prizes in Football, EPL and CL, and he has a great record this season i think only Mourinho's is better.Everyone forgets we were supposed to struggle this year after Mourinho left, we havn't because Avram Grant has done a good job.The least he deserves is one summer to shape his squad and challenge for trophies.We got lucky with Mourinho bringing instant success but it isnt that easy.Chelsea fans need to start being proper fans!!!And i think and hope the board will stick by Avram for one more year and i think everyone will be surprised how we do

King John V · 21-04-2008 11:48am

Considering the media have dubbed him an 'amateur' at the highest level, he's done very well. To be the only remaining team that can challenge utd for the PL title with 3 only games left isn't bad. Cup finalists in England and in the last 4 in europe with the prospects of winning it. That's some achievement by any club's standard.

I can see a much more settled Chelsea team back challenging for trophies next season. The disruptive influences in the squad who were against Grant from the start will probably be released and the prospect of players like Ribery joining certainly offers glimmers of hope for Chelsea fans.

PHB · 21-04-2008 11:53am

If Grant doesn't win the PL or get to the CL final, I just can't see Grant staying. I really can't see the former happening anymore, too much to do (although not beyond the realms of possibility), but beating Liverpool is certainly a possibility. Whether getting to the final is enough only Ambrovomich will know, but I think the problem is not that Grant should go, it's that there are no real attacking managers out there to replace him.

Of the three most successful attacking managers in the world, Fergie, Wenger and Rikkjard, the first two would never ever ever go to them, and the last one has shown to be something of a one trick pony and really not up to the highest levels.

King John V · 21-04-2008 12:18pm

Wenger is quite possibly one of the most attack orientated coachs in the world. But if he was released no way would his philosophy fit with Abromavich's vision of instant glory and sucess. Wenger would want to buy talented 15 year olds on the cheap and develop them over 10-15 years. Abromavich's style of buying tried and tested 20 something year olds in the 20 million+ bracket would go against the grain for Wenger. I'm sure there'd be clashes of opinion if they combined forces

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CHD · 01-05-2008 1:42am

GET THE F!CK IN WE ARE GOIN TO MOSCOW!!!!!!

Blue is the colour
Football is the game
We are all together
And winning is our aim!!!!!

SING CHELSEA EVERYONE!!!!!!!

COME ON CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!

redzerdrog · 01-05-2008 2:20am

wish i knew how to post that tumbleweed picture

Xavi6 · 01-05-2008 2:21am

It'd just be followed by one of a lemon tbh

Mr Alan · 01-05-2008 8:08am

Fair play to Chelsea. Hope ye do the double.

Maybe ye will cut Mr Grant some slack now.

Enjoy Moscow!

leninbenjamin · 12-05-2008 12:33pm

Chelsea to sign Bosingwa

Chelsea have reached an agreement with Porto for the £16.2m transfer of right-back Jose Bosingwa.

The 25-year-old Portugal international has arrived in London to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical.

Bosingwa, who was also a target for Manchester United, was born in the Democratic Republic of Congo but moved to Portugal as a child.

The full-back helped Porto to the 2004 Champions League title and four league championships since signing in 2003.

Bosingwa made more than 40 appearances for Boavista before former Blues boss Jose Mourinho brought him to rivals Porto.

606: DEBATE
Chelsea have again wasted money on an average player!

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Although he was used sparingly in his first season, the defender, who can also play on the wing, had been the first-choice right-back during the last three seasons.

His performances have earned him seven caps for Portugal and he is expected to be named in their Euro 2008 squad this week.

Alberto da Silva, a journalist for World Soccer magazine, believes Bosingwa has been overvalued by Chelsea.

"He's a good player but he's not worth that much money," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

I don't believe Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson would have been willing to spend that much money

Journalist Alberto da Silva

"Chelsea's current right-back Paulo Ferreira is a better player. I don't know who negotiated the deal, but he did well for Porto."

He added: "I don't believe Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson would have been willing to spend that much money on Bosingwa."

Three years ago, Bosingwa was involved in a serious car accident along with four other footballers.

All survived, but Sandro Luis, from a minor Portuguese side, had to have his left foot amputated as a result of the accident.

Bosingwa's arrival at Stamford Bridge will cast doubt over the future of another right-back Juliano Belletti.

The former Barcelona defender, who scored the winning goal in the 2006 Champions League final against Arsenal, has been overlooked by Blues manager Avram Grant in recent weeks, with Michael Essien occupying the full-back berth.

16milion? sounds very steep. they clearly are desperate to sort out that right back position.

Bubs101 · 12-05-2008 12:53pm

I have seen him and I think it's more that Grant and Roman want an attacking right back as opposed to Ferreira. He's not bad at all but the Portuguese league isn't much of a testing ground

selpher · 12-05-2008 1:14pm

Wow how much have porto made off of us in the last few seasons? 16mil is a lot but considering the prices being talked about for other RB's we were linked with like Richards and Alves, it doesnt surprise me. Although with the amount we paid for Ivanovic and Bosingwa we could of bought Alves. Anyway hope he does well for us. My portuguese work mate assures me he's pretty decent.

Mr Alan · 12-05-2008 1:24pm

wat happened to the big centre half ye signed in Jan?

selpher · 12-05-2008 1:29pm

That was Ivanovic, he must've been injured cause he hasn't even made the bench once yet. I remember when we got him he had the same lack of fitness Skirtel had for liverpool, then he just dissapeared.

Mr Alan · 12-05-2008 1:31pm

was actually thinking about that the other day alright. they arrived together, with your lad rated the better player and a good bit more expensive (12million if memory serves me right?), then we just havent heard from him since, yet Skrtl has gone on to be a super player for us in the few short months.

something a little fishy about the situation if ya ask me

eddiehead · 12-05-2008 1:35pm

TBH we need a very good full back, not another average one(Boularouz, Ferreira, Belletti) to mount a serious challenge next season as I think its our weakest position by far and leaves us very exposed at times. There arent many great full backs in the world right now, but surely with the resources available along with the prospect of major honours at Chelsea we should be able to attract some of the best.Having said that, i could be wrong, i just havnt seen or heard of this guy.
I really think Chelsea should be aiming for a big name signing at the earliest opportunity this summer, with the prospect of Drogba leaving, we should be trying to make a signal of intent. Somebody like Benzema(sought after by a string of europes top clubs) is who I would like to see at the Bridge. Maybe with Romans full backing Avram Grant can be more ambitious in the transfer market than Jose.

IrishMike · 12-05-2008 1:40pm

topnutz wrote: »

Maybe with Romans full backing Avram Grant can be more ambitious in the transfer market than Jose.

More ambitious?
They bought Ballack, Shevchenko, Malouda, Cole, SWP, Essien ,Carvallo etc
under Maureen, all very sought after players.
How much more ambitious do you want them to be?
Unless you are looking for £100m a summer of spending you cant really
ask for a whole lot more from the owner, its about proper use of the
resources rather than increasing the spend if you ask me
Chelsea dont need to spend £80m on new players, they only need 1 or 2
Probably wont stop them doing it though.

Mr Alan · 12-05-2008 1:41pm

topnutz wrote: »

TBH we need a very good full back, not another average one(Boularouz, Ferreira, Belletti) to mount a serious challenge next season

As opposed to the half arsed title challenge ye mounted this year?!

Chelsea fans really have been spoilt the last few years!

topnutz wrote: »

i just havnt seen or heard of this guy.

You'll be glad to hear, he's been linked to some of Europes top clubs and is regarded as a pretty excellent player.

topnutz wrote: »

Somebody like Benzema(sought after by a string of europes top clubs) is who I would like to see at the Bridge.

How often have you seen Benzema play? Or is it just the fact that hes been linked with Real,Utd,Barca etc that has you wanting him?

iregk · 12-05-2008 1:49pm

Christ what are some fans expecting. More ambitious in the transfer market. Ballack, Shevchenko, Robben, Malouda, Cech, Drogba etc.. what exactly is there in that that shows a lack of ambition?

Chelsea needed to put up a serious title challenge? Yeah we really made a mess of it this year didn't we. Considering the turmoil and waring factions at the club in the first part of the season its pretty remarkable how we were able to turn it around and bring the season to the last day. That and the fact that we are in the CL final. Honestly what more do people want without winning absolutely everything in sight?

Essien while not a rb is still better than the majority of RB's in the prem.

eddiehead · 12-05-2008 1:51pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

As opposed to the half arsed title challenge ye mounted this year?!

Ive been saying for a while that our league position flatters us, it wont be so close next year if we keep up the half arsed performances, sometimes the league table does lie.
But I think we've been found wanting at at right back far too often this season, so for me a world class right back is top of my wishlist(well, right behind Messi), that is of course if we can keep the rest of the squad intact throughout the transfer window.
Your right about Benzema, I havnt seen much of him, but what i have seen I have been very impressed. Also there's no smoke without fire, if the whole of Europe wants him he cant be all bad, plus hes more likely to be available than say Etoo for example.
I also said i could be wrong about Bosingwa and i hope i am, i just havnt heard of him thats all

eddiehead · 12-05-2008 1:53pm

OK, maybe 'ambitious' was the wrong word:o

Mr Alan · 12-05-2008 1:56pm

topnutz wrote: »

Ive been saying for a while that our league position flatters us, it wont be so close next year if we keep up the half arsed performances, sometimes the league table does lie.
But I think we've been found wanting at at right back far too often this season, so for me a world class right back is top of my wishlist(well, right behind Messi), that is of course if we can keep the rest of the squad intact throughout the transfer window.
Your right about Benzema, I havnt seen much of him, but what i have seen I have been very impressed. Also there's no smoke without fire, if the whole of Europe wants him he cant be all bad, plus hes more likely to be available than say Etoo for example.
I also said i could be wrong about Bosingwa and i hope i am, i just havnt heard of him thats all

I'd imagine Eto'o would actually be more available to Chelsea than Benzema, the lad will have his choice of clubs and has already indicated fairly definatively that he favours a move to Barca or Real (Spain), then either AC or Inter (Italy) and then, a bit back, England. So not gonna happen.

leninbenjamin · 12-05-2008 1:58pm

topnutz wrote: »

I also said i could be wrong about Bosingwa and i hope i am, i just havnt heard of him thats all

meh... if you think Ferreira is a poor player then don't get your hopes up. by the sounds of it most Porto fans would rate Ferreira as the better player.

DerKaiser · 12-05-2008 1:58pm

We need some wing forward spunk back in the team of the likes of Duff and Robben, there is only 5 letters I want to see at the bridge next season:
M E S S I

eddiehead · 12-05-2008 1:59pm

IrishMike wrote: »

its about proper use of the
resources rather than increasing the spend if you ask me
Chelsea dont need to spend £80m on new players, they only need 1 or 2
Probably wont stop them doing it though.

Exactly, thats what i was goin for,i made a fair ballz of it though:D

selpher · 12-05-2008 2:06pm

Well if players like Ben Haim, Sidwell, Pizzaro and Belletti are the only ones leaving then we dont need big name signings to replace them, we should be bringing in youngsters. I think our biggest signing will be Drogbas replacement if he is going.

MrJoeSoap · 12-05-2008 9:41pm

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/soccer/chelsea-and-porto-agree-fee-for-jose-bosingwa-1373375.html

leninbenjamin · 12-05-2008 9:43pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/soccer/chelsea-and-porto-agree-fee-for-jose-bosingwa-1373375.html

about 9 hours behind son

MrJoeSoap · 12-05-2008 9:49pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

about 9 hours behind son

Oops

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Telgere · 20-05-2008 11:01pm

Any plans for watching the game in Dublin. Would love to watch it with a majority of blues fans. Most pubs will be dominated by manu. ktbffh.

ShoulderChip · 20-05-2008 11:58pm

I will be in o'neills, but id say it will be full of reds.

21-05-2008 12:09am

Romans Rubles arent entirely free

In all seriousness though, thats an astonishing creditors list the club has, 3/4 a billion is huge regardless of how much of that is owed to Roman.

I was under the impression he was just a free spending nut? If he;s looking for money back then things could get interesting for Chelsea. Having said that, at least the "loan" is interest free, unlike Uniteds, who are paying the loan interests back using the gate revenues

Chelseas "debt" looks meagre compared to uniteds.

iregk · 21-05-2008 8:04am

Well I've been saying this for a long time but people on here just dont listen at times. There is this notion that Chelsea is just a play thing and he will put it back down when he is finished. After pumping all that money into the club this is a long term investment by RA. We know he doesn't need the money but people like him dont think that way, we do because we dont have billions in an account!

He has made an investment and sooner or later will want a return on that investment. He isn't stupid when it comes to cash. Either by hook or by crook he gatherd an obscene amount of wealth and unless your david beckham that takes a high degree of intelect. Chelsea will always have to repay that money, its just a question of when.

Death or Glory · 21-05-2008 10:07am

Can someone post the lyrics to that blue is the colour song?

Leeds fan here, just wanna wind up the mancs in the office

DerKaiser · 21-05-2008 10:57am

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
Cos Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.

Here at the Bridge, whether rain or fine
We can shine all the time
Home or away, come and see us play
You're welcome any day

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
Cos Chelsea, Chelsea is our name

Come to the Shed and we'll welcome you
Wear your blue and see us through
Sing loud and clear until the game is done
Sing Chelsea everyone

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
Cos Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
Cos Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.

21-05-2008 11:02am

Death or Glory wrote: »

Can someone post the lyrics to that blue is the colour song?

Leeds fan here, just wanna wind up the mancs in the office

Id be careful, you're setting yourself up for the fall if or when u lose the playoff final!! :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Death or Glory · 21-05-2008 11:56am

No chance, we're the famous Leeds United!

leninbenjamin · 21-05-2008 12:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Romans Rubles arent entirely free

In all seriousness though, thats an astonishing creditors list the club has, 3/4 a billion is huge regardless of how much of that is owed to Roman.

I was under the impression he was just a free spending nut? If he;s looking for money back then things could get interesting for Chelsea. Having said that, at least the "loan" is interest free, unlike Uniteds, who are paying the loan interests back using the gate revenues

Chelseas "debt" looks meagre compared to uniteds.

hmmmm.... i personally wouldn't be surprised if it were the case that they are in the form of 'interest free' loans for tax purposes. Chelsea is a long long time away from being able to repay Abramovich. no doubt he wants them to overtake United in the long run and reap the returns, but i don't think he'd be foolish enough to burden the club before they are able to repay. remember, to someone as rich as Abramovich it's all just a game.

DerKaiser · 21-05-2008 1:49pm

Not according to Kenyon, the clubs assets are making huge waves and the adidas kit sponsership was worth 300mil I think, he reckons in 3 years Chelsea will be totally self sufficient

Telgere · 21-05-2008 3:37pm

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,13320_3588017,00.html

Interesting read regarding mikels sending off.

RE*AC*TOR · 21-05-2008 7:42pm

Good luck!

CHELSEA General Discussion and Rumours 07/08

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