Money and Land

Dughorm · 28-11-2015 9:58pm #1

So is the dating scene really all about the money, the bit of land, permanent job, car, assets etc... etc...

What happened to the good old fashioned craic?

Iwasfrozen · 28-11-2015 10:01pm

Dughorm wrote: »

So is the dating scene really all about the money, the bit of land, permanent job, car, assets etc... etc...

What happened to the good old fashioned craic?

Money and land have been part of the dating scene for as far back as you want to go bud.

cantdecide · 28-11-2015 10:02pm

Dughorm wrote: »

So is the dating scene really all about the money, the bit of land, permanent job, car, assets etc... etc...

What happened to the good old fashioned craic?

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman.

YungKeo · 28-11-2015 10:02pm

Depends on whether it's road frontage or not.

The Backwards Man · 28-11-2015 10:02pm

I'm out in Vegas, and no matter how many women I tell that I have two years worth of turf in the shed and at least four good sites I haven't got one back to the room yet.

So, no.

FortySeven · 28-11-2015 10:04pm

cantdecide wrote: »

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman. Then you lose half in the divorce.

FYP :pac:

corner of hells · 28-11-2015 10:06pm

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm out in Vegas, and no matter how many women I tell that I have two years worth of turf in the shed and at least four good sites I haven't got one back to the room yet.

So, no.

You needed to a bag of turf with you ,sort of as a sample.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 28-11-2015 10:09pm

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm out in Vegas, and no matter how many women I tell that I have two years worth of turf in the shed and at least four good sites I haven't got one back to the room yet.

So, no.

You might have to make a trip out in the Nevada desert to the bunny ranch if things don't improve. :pac:

The Backwards Man · 28-11-2015 10:14pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You might have to make a trip out in the Nevada desert to the bunny ranch if things don't improve. :pac:

Na, I have enough of them digging up the lawn at home

BenedrylPete · 28-11-2015 10:27pm

Dont be so shallow op.

Theres more to love than land and cars.
Genetic fitness, prong size and probable future income are also part of the deep loving relationship between an incubation chamber and a spawn distributor.

Richard Hillman · 28-11-2015 10:34pm

Craic doesn't pay the bills. Unless you deal in a specific kind of craic.

cantdecide · 28-11-2015 10:35pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Craic doesn't pay the bills. Unless you deal in a specific kind of craic.

I don't think stand up comedians get paid very much. What about comedy writers though. I bet they'd earn a bit. Probably a hard gig to get though.

Valentina · 28-11-2015 10:37pm

Yes.

I'm looking for a man with a few acres of well drained land for the horses. Road frontage desirable but not necessary.

cantdecide · 28-11-2015 10:38pm

Valentina wrote: »

Yes.

I'm looking for a man with a few acres of well drained land for the horses. Road frontage desirable but not necessary.

PM'd

Wait, you do have room for a pony at the moment right?

28-11-2015 10:42pm

Anyone who tells you women are only interested in money is romantically unsuccessful, and needs something other than their abhorrent personality to blame.

The Backwards Man · 28-11-2015 10:43pm

Valentina wrote: »

Yes.

I'm looking for a man with a few acres of well drained land for the horses. Road frontage desirable but not necessary.

What about a plentiful supply of turf?!

cantdecide · 28-11-2015 10:48pm

Candie wrote: »

Anyone who tells you women are only interested in money is romantically unsuccessful, and needs something other than their abhorrent personality to blame.

Ah now. Let's be fair, they could be ugly too.

28-11-2015 10:57pm

Ah now. Let's be fair, they could be ugly too.

Ugly on the inside is way harder to get past than ugly on the outside.

BenedrylPete · 28-11-2015 11:27pm

Candie wrote: »

Anyone who tells you women are only interested in money is romantically unsuccessful, and needs something other than their abhorrent personality to blame.

Is that a larry flynt quote ?

Valentina · 28-11-2015 11:28pm

cantdecide wrote: »

PM'd

Wait, you do have room for a pony at the moment right?

If I had room for a pony I wouldn't be looking for a man with land!

The Backwards Man wrote: »

What about a plentiful supply of turf?!

LOVE the smell of a turf fire!

28-11-2015 11:32pm

BenedrylPete wrote: »

Is that a larry flynt quote ?

It's a Candie quote.

28-11-2015 11:34pm

Dughorm wrote: »

So is the dating scene really all about the money, the bit of land, permanent job, car, assets etc... etc...

Not from what I have heard any way. Five of my mates are currently on the dating scene. 3 Guys 2 girls (yes before you asked I HAVE tried fixing them up with each other - they have been friends too long and feel it would be too weird).

And when they come out of blind dates - on line dates - or first meet up dates after giving their number to someone in a bar - the LAST thing they were lamenting about was feeling like they did not have enough money land jobs or cars

What ALL of them without fail felt coming out of the dating scene each time was having nothing to talk about. Either because they seriously had nothing to talk about themselves - or the other person didnt - or they did but both of them were so wound up (probably worrying about things like money and assets and cars and jobs) that they could not get the talk out.

So my impression - based purely on a handful of anecdotes clearly so take it with a bottle of salt - is that the dating scene is all about communication - and an ability to establish it early and openly and in a fun way.

Dughorm · 28-11-2015 11:52pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What ALL of them without fail felt coming out of the dating scene each time was having nothing to talk about.

That sure beats getting audited on a date! Green cert is a must for some people apparently :pac:

More about the fun less about the funds

jimgoose · 28-11-2015 11:54pm

Awfully sorry old stick, seem to have forgotten the old milk-quota. Must've left it in the Jaaaaag!

Miss Demeanour · 28-11-2015 11:55pm

Money and land won't keep you warm on a cold Winters night......just sayin......

FortySeven · 28-11-2015 11:58pm

Miss Demeanour wrote: »

Money and land won't keep you warm on a cold Winters night......just sayin......

It will keep you warmer than a woman and no fire.

jimgoose · 28-11-2015 11:59pm

Miss Demeanour wrote: »

Money and land won't keep you warm on a cold Winters night......just sayin......

What?? A ton of coal and a hundred acres, and blessed silence?

Sh1tbag OToole · 29-11-2015 12:04am

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm out in Vegas, and no matter how many women I tell that I have two years worth of turf in the shed and at least four good sites I haven't got one back to the room yet.

So, no.

I would pay good money to see a "The Backwards Man goes to Vegas" film

puppieperson · 29-11-2015 12:34am

money for bills land for freedom from people and a colourful past is an ideal set up where 2 people can be great together loads to do and to talk about .. the dating scene today is bizarre you get this on dating sites....
"hiya"
How was your day?
How are you finding the site?
all these banal questions and photo holding a big dirty pint.......... thats the dating scene!!!

what woman would be arsed?

irish son · 29-11-2015 2:01am

puppieperson wrote: »

money for bills land for freedom from people and a colourful past is an ideal set up where 2 people can be great together loads to do and to talk about .. the dating scene today is bizarre you get this on dating sites....
"hiya"
How was your day?
How are you finding the site?
all these banal questions and photo holding a big dirty pint.......... thats the dating scene!!!

what woman would be arsed?

And the women on those sites are all Oscar Wildes :rolleyes:

endacl · 29-11-2015 2:16am

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm out in Vegas, and no matter how many women I tell that I have two years worth of turf in the shed and at least four good sites I haven't got one back to the room yet.

So, no.

Dafuq are you doing posting on here? Holidays. Immediately!

wetlandsboy · 29-11-2015 2:19am

I was shocked recently to hear a friend's story about his wive's female friends: in their mid/late twenties the narrative was mainly about potential partners' money and job/title. I just can't fathom how potential (male) partners could be viewed by women in such a reductive way. Is this purely a female thing? I'm a professor, earn a very large salary, but would never judge a potential partner on the basis of their job. Yet, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests that a lot of women may see things slightly differently.

risteard7 · 29-11-2015 2:20am

I have fcuking neither but i have pride

Sh1tbag OToole · 29-11-2015 2:20am

wetlandsboy wrote: »

I was shocked recently to hear a friend's story about his wive's female friends: in their mid/late twenties the narrative was mainly about potential partners' money and job/title. I just can't fathom how potential (male) partners could be viewed by women in such a reductive way. Is this purely a female thing? I'm a professor, earn a very large salary, but would never judge a potential partner on the basis of their job. Yet, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests that a lot of women may see things slightly differently.

South Dublin?

harry Bailey esq · 29-11-2015 2:33am

cantdecide wrote: »

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman.

And let's not forget the sugar

irish son · 29-11-2015 2:54am

wetlandsboy wrote: »

I was shocked recently to hear a friend's story about his wive's female friends: in their mid/late twenties the narrative was mainly about potential partners' money and job/title. I just can't fathom how potential (male) partners could be viewed by women in such a reductive way. Is this purely a female thing? I'm a professor, earn a very large salary, but would never judge a potential partner on the basis of their job. Yet, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests that a lot of women may see things slightly differently.

This will probably be an unpopular opinion on here and I'm speaking in general terms but its what I think is more likely to happen in both genders thinking...

Women are more interested in a potential partners profession/long term salary potential than men are, the ones doing it may not even realise they are doing it, it may subconsciously. If telling friends about a new guy they're dating the most likely first thing they'll ask is what does he do and slightly judge him and your choice of guy on the answer and compare in their heads to they're own partners profession. I think some of this may got to do with having a bit of stability for future children down the line.

Men on the other hand are more shallow about looks than women and care less about a woman's profession and salary. If a guy is telling his friends about a new girl he's seeing they are more likely to ask to see her Facebook page to see what she looks like and judge her and compare her looks wise to their own partner.

Tigger · 29-11-2015 2:57am

i never did better than when i was basically homeless, lean well exercised and able to put the hours in.
oh and lying about being homeless

wetlandsboy · 29-11-2015 3:05am

irish son wrote: »

This will probably be an unpopular opinion on here and I'm speaking in general terms but its what I think is more likely to happen in both genders thinking...

Women are more interested in a potential partners profession/long term salary potential than men are, the ones doing it may not even realise they are doing it, it may subconsciously. If telling friends about a new guy they're dating the most likely first thing they'll ask is what does he do and slightly judge him and your choice of guy on the answer and compare in their heads to they're own partners profession. I think some of this may got to do with having a bit of stability for future children down the line.

Men on the other hand are more shallow about looks than women and care less about a woman's profession and salary. If a guy is telling his friends about a new girl he's seeing they are more likely to ask to see her Facebook page to see what she looks like and judge her and compare her looks wise to their own partner.

Yes, I certainly think this is the norm. I would be most interested to hear if this is the general conscious.

foxy farmer · 29-11-2015 3:40am

jimgoose wrote: »

What?? A ton of coal and a hundred acres, and blessed silence?

I'm living the dream. I'd rather a cold house than a cold bitch!
Back in the day while training in Dublin we found that occupation was make or break. If we were out of a night and lads started getting brave we were soon put back in our box. If you were asked what you did and you replied apprentice electrician the woman would leave like the Delorean in Back to the Future!
If you replied in the ESB they'd question more looking to see what line you were in eg accounting engineering etc. When theyd finally discover that you were only a lowly apprentice they'd drop ya like a hot potato.

CIP4 · 30-11-2015 12:55am

irish son wrote: »

This will probably be an unpopular opinion on here and I'm speaking in general terms but its what I think is more likely to happen in both genders thinking...

Women are more interested in a potential partners profession/long term salary potential than men are, the ones doing it may not even realise they are doing it, it may subconsciously. If telling friends about a new guy they're dating the most likely first thing they'll ask is what does he do and slightly judge him and your choice of guy on the answer and compare in their heads to they're own partners profession. I think some of this may got to do with having a bit of stability for future children down the line.

Men on the other hand are more shallow about looks than women and care less about a woman's profession and salary. If a guy is telling his friends about a new girl he's seeing they are more likely to ask to see her Facebook page to see what she looks like and judge her and compare her looks wise to their own partner.

I think this is definitely the case. Any of my male friends as you said would generally go on about looks I don't think I've ever heard one start with oh well she works at x doing whatever.

Whereas for some woman (not all) what the guy does seems to be a huge make or break thing. I'd personally hate to think that a girl would be going out with me because of my profession or earning potential. As I personally couldn't care less what she did within reason as I don't think it matters in deciding whether or not you like her. I often wondered would you be better of playing down your job profession to see if the woman was genuinely interested. Hard to know really that's probably not a great thing to do either. Maybe there is some males like this where profession is important but I can't say I know any.

Canadel · 30-11-2015 1:19am

irish son wrote: »

This will probably be an unpopular opinion on here and I'm speaking in general terms but its what I think is more likely to happen in both genders thinking...

Women are more interested in a potential partners profession/long term salary potential than men are, the ones doing it may not even realise they are doing it, it may subconsciously. If telling friends about a new guy they're dating the most likely first thing they'll ask is what does he do and slightly judge him and your choice of guy on the answer and compare in their heads to they're own partners profession. I think some of this may got to do with having a bit of stability for future children down the line.

Men on the other hand are more shallow about looks than women and care less about a woman's profession and salary. If a guy is telling his friends about a new girl he's seeing they are more likely to ask to see her Facebook page to see what she looks like and judge her and compare her looks wise to their own partner.

Personality not even mentioned once..

Also, how is it more more shallow to care about looks than a person's profession and salary? Surely the opposite it true. Looks and physical attraction are a very important part of choosing a partner I would have thought, along with personality and shared interest.

Witchie · 30-11-2015 1:42am

I don't think it has ever entered the equation for me. I have always fended for myself financially and always expect to. In fact I had an ex who had a fairly good job in finance and I used to be a little embarrassed getting out of his sports car coz that just was not my way. I grew up in a family where my dad worked his ass off as a builder/restaurant owner/musician and various other jobs and it was always in me not to care what a guy works at or what he earns, just being willing to graft is good enough. Actually now if a guy did nothing it wouldn't really matter coz I will continue to look after myself and my sons and have raised them without any help from their dad to adulthood.

So in answer to your question, no, for me the guy needs to be sweet, make me laugh and be up for adventure, if he could be tall too that is a bonus, but for me the most important thing I look for in a guy is that he is not a total a$$hole.*

*I am enjoying the irony of using dollar signs as "s" considering the topic.

irish son · 30-11-2015 9:19am

Canadel wrote: »

Personality not even mentioned once..

Also, how is it more more shallow to care about looks than a person's profession and salary? Surely the opposite it true. Looks and physical attraction are a very important part of choosing a partner I would have thought, along with personality and shared interest.

I was just comparing the percentage size of importance of profession and looks for men and women, of course personality and other factors plays a massive part in both as well.

I just meant men are more shallow looks wise as that is how shallow is normally used.

puppieperson · 05-12-2015 1:39pm

wetlandsboy wrote: »

I was shocked recently to hear a friend's story about his wive's female friends: in their mid/late twenties the narrative was mainly about potential partners' money and job/title. I just can't fathom how potential (male) partners could be viewed by women in such a reductive way. Is this purely a female thing? I'm a professor, earn a very large salary, but would never judge a potential partner on the basis of their job. Yet, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests that a lot of women may see things slightly differently.

"Women have been trying to have it all and do it all. The the reason they are now so obsessed with a man of means is because they are realising that a man who can pay the bills, allows them to be at home being a home maker and rearing the children the old fashioned way. Women are fed up working and now some want to revert o the old way therefore this requires a certain amount of scheming.

Leroy Brown · 05-12-2015 6:46pm

jimgoose wrote: »

What?? A ton of coal and a hundred acres, and blessed silence?

Silence is my best friend.

Azalea · 05-12-2015 6:48pm

puppieperson wrote: »

"Women have been trying to have it all and do it all. The the reason they are now so obsessed with a man of means is because they are realising that a man who can pay the bills, allows them to be at home being a home maker and rearing the children the old fashioned way. Women are fed up working and now some want to revert o the old way therefore this requires a certain amount of scheming.

Huh? Speak for yourself there.

jimgoose · 05-12-2015 11:21pm

Azalea wrote: »

Huh? Speak for yourself there.

You may address me as "Colonel" or "Sir". I believe I've earned it. I don't know what the hell kind of unit you're running here.

05-12-2015 11:24pm

Sir! Yes, Sir!

jimgoose · 05-12-2015 11:26pm

Candie wrote: »

Sir! Yes, Sir!

More fcukan like it. On deck at 0600, high-and-tight. That means we finish at farmer's dinner-time, and go on the lash!

caille · 06-12-2015 3:02am

This is my perspective (as a woman), I was brought up by an independent hard-working mother, to be independent myself and to have my own money. I was also told, to be happy, that any potential partner should be the same way. Status, land and how much money someone has, were never emphasised, it was more that there should be mutual respect and acceptance of each other's independence and earning abilities.

I think my mother's advice did me a lot of good as when it came to relationships, I looked at what a man could offer me in terms of personality, looks, his view on things, sense of humour etc. I didn't look for earning capacity in the future, what assets he might have.

When I met my husband, I wouldn't have cared about anything like this at all (we were at different stages in life regarding money and work) as I clicked with him on so many levels, I just knew, for me, he was a keeper. You can't plan for that kind of connection with someone, if it happens to you, you are damned damned lucky and if the person doesn't happen to have a great job or assets, it really shouldn't matter. Yes, you can ignore your heart and let your head make a decision but the heart knows best, it always does :-)

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