Votomatic - 2016 Edition

An Ciarraioch · 17-11-2015 5:52pm #1

Only 10 questions, and the scale options are somewhat limited, but hopefully it may help floating voters make up their minds as the GE approaches!

http://www.votomatic.ie/

oscarBravo · 17-11-2015 8:07pm

Woo, I'm a hardcore Green.

ancapailldorcha · 17-11-2015 10:21pm

I got Labour.

17-11-2015 10:23pm

I'm an avid Fianna Failer. Or not.

mikep · 18-11-2015 9:38am

Hardcore Green.....My arse!

PopePalpatine · 18-11-2015 10:20am

I got SocDems (81%), Renua were last on 37%.

Permabear · 18-11-2015 11:27am

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BoJack Horseman · 18-11-2015 12:07pm

It's an awful attempt at a scale..... if you click on 'cheat mode and look at where the creator chose to place the parties and where they actually are policy wise, it is at odds.

Zubeneschamali · 18-11-2015 12:57pm

I'm a hard core Labour supporter, which is not completely wrong, anf the Greens were next, also not a bad guess.

Yet FG were nearly at the bottom, below AAA, SF, and FF.

Which is not just wrong, it is comical. It's as if the author thinks FF, SF and AAA are actual politicians capable of governing.

Slydice · 18-11-2015 7:54pm

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

It's an awful attempt at a scale..... if you click on 'cheat mode and look at where the creator chose to place the parties and where they actually are policy wise, it is at odds.

for example?

BoJack Horseman · 18-11-2015 8:17pm

Slydice wrote: »

for example?

All of them really....

It paints FG as some sort of small government libertarians..
That isn't and never has been true.
They have always been a 'big government' party.

Question 3.... All parties are in favour of very generous social welfare benefits.

Question 6 has never been tested anywhere I think & certainly not how it breaks down on this votmatic effort.
Also, a very large company is not a monopoly.

Why bother including question 7 if there is no alternate to 'let them all in'.
makes no sense.

FG are indicated as being the least in favour of social housing, yet the current government have announced the largest building project ever.... the rainbow coalition was very in favour of social housing. It was FF that abandoned it

Q9 implies that left wing parties love the environment.,,,, there is nothing in reality that backs that up.

Peregrinus · 20-11-2015 6:23am

Permabear wrote: »

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Those are the ones that are easy to answer. If you don't agree with either policy, you leave the slider in the middle which (as cheat mode discloses) is where the programme puts parties who haven't adopted either policy.

Godge · 20-11-2015 10:16am

I think it was accurate enough.

Lab/FF/Green/FG neck and neck for me with SD just a little behind. None of them particularly high.

SF and AAA well back.

20-11-2015 10:31am

Hardcore Labour apparently :pac:

Manach · 20-11-2015 1:23pm

Renua.
A critique on the scaling is the simplified left/right but not taking on board the 4-quadrant scale that sites like https://www.isidewith.com/ which has a more nuance read on the economic/social questions.

jem · 24-11-2015 6:26pm

hardcore FF for me

Chips Lovell · 25-11-2015 4:28pm

I got Anti-Austerity Alliance/People Before Profit. Even though I support Water Charges.

Boulevardier · 25-11-2015 9:14pm

SD, which is how I am leaning in any case.

Faugheen · 26-11-2015 3:21am

Greens for me by 1% from Fianna Fail, which is funny considering that I'm thinking of giving GP my first preference.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 26-11-2015 12:42pm

76/76/75/65
RN/FF/FG/Lab

Wx · 27-11-2015 4:24am

Peregrinus wrote: »

Those are the ones that are easy to answer. If you don't agree with either policy, you leave the slider in the middle which (as cheat mode discloses) is where the programme puts parties who haven't adopted either policy.

Gives you FF as far as I can see All things to all people

Zubeneschamali · 27-11-2015 10:50am

Wx wrote: »

Gives you FF as far as I can see All things to all people

No Corruption questions, so.

28-11-2015 1:15am

Permabear wrote: »

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This all makes perfect sense.

Have you joined Renua yet?

piuswal · 28-11-2015 8:43pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

No Corruption questions, so.

Surely being "all things to all people" means you tolerate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Kev · 30-11-2015 11:49am

piuswal wrote: »

Surely being "all things to all people" means you tolerate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can be all things to all people and still not be corrupt. Corruption is a choice to benefit yourself and/or your allies over others.

If you don't touch the slider you get 88% FF.

FWIW: 83% Green, 78% Labour, 77% SD, SF 65%, FG, then FF, then Renua bottom at 44%

That's pretty much how I'd vote iin preference with the exception of SF who I tend to stick near the bottom.

Quin_Dub · 07-12-2015 12:31pm

Red Kev wrote: »

You can be all things to all people and still not be corrupt. Corruption is a choice to benefit yourself and/or your allies over others.

If you don't touch the slider you get 88% FF.

FWIW: 83% Green, 78% Labour, 77% SD, SF 65%, FG, then FF, then Renua bottom at 44%

That's pretty much how I'd vote iin preference with the exception of SF who I tend to stick near the bottom.

It's interesting , if you click the "cheat" mode view they have FF slap dead centre for virtually every option.

Is that calling FF "centrist" or is it calling them "Populist" I wonder?

An Ciarraioch · 07-12-2015 1:15pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

It's interesting , if you click the "cheat" mode view they have FF slap dead centre for virtually every option.

Is that calling FF "centrist" or is it calling them "Populist" I wonder?

Probably a bit of both - you don't get known as one of Europe's last "catch-all" parties without sticking firmly to the middle-of-the-road on most policy issues, and by refusing to alienate any particular voting group, the populist tag sticks.

Sleepy · 13-01-2016 6:27pm

All over the place really:

Labour Party 82%
Green Party 77%
Social Democrats 73%
Fine Gael 68%
Fianna Fáil 65%
Sinn Féin 61%
AAA/PBP 61%
Renua Ireland 58%

Scofflaw · 14-01-2016 1:56pm

Another one here: http://www.smartvote.ie/

Greens top out for me (surprise surprise), but the FG result is interesting - one FG candidate scores as well as Eamon Ryan at 40 pts, the other is at the bottom of the list on 8 pts.

So:

Green/FG1 40
PBP 37
SD 35
SF 32
FF 27
Labour 26
Renua 16
FG2 8

Not sure whether that represents my oddities, or the oddities of Irish political parties. Again, no weighting of the importance of issues to you, which is probably at least as important an indicator, maybe more so. I might not agree with the Greens on their preferences for some issues, but I would still prefer to see a Green deciding those issues.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Grudaire · 15-01-2016 3:21pm

Green 41
Ind 39
AAA/PBP 35
Labour 27
FF 26
SF 24
FG2 13
Ind2 0

Unsurprised to see the Greens number 1 - however I don't think the questions necessarily make sense for the constituency or the individuals.

For me Labour (Joan) loses marks for not being credible (in spite of policy positions), similarly for many parties.
Similarly although I lean slightly left on economic matters I don't lean as far as the AAA..

PopePalpatine · 15-01-2016 3:36pm

I got:

McMenamin (GRN) 52
Toibin (SF) 39
Cassells (FF) 35
McElhinney (LP) 32
English & Butler (FG) 12
Lawes (DDI) 0 :pac:

Grudaire · 15-01-2016 5:27pm

Jaysus the Greens will be winning this by a landslide at this rate :P

ShooterSF · 12-02-2016 4:26am

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I got:

McMenamin (GRN) 52
Toibin (SF) 39
Cassells (FF) 35
McElhinney (LP) 32
English & Butler (FG) 12
Lawes (DDI) 0 :pac:

I got the good doctor too but it made Lawes my 2nd choice :shudders: I'm honestly in a pickle here as I can't stand any of them

(Edit: I mean the big four that are actually in contention) (and Lawes, obvs)

Votomatic - 2016 Edition

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