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family parking spaces

  • 03-01-2014 1:54pm
    #1
    Spiritiser
    Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭


    Do parking spaces in shopping centres with a logo of adult/child have legal power. Can the shopping centre fine/clamp a person who does not have children with them?


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  • #2
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    No, they're provided out of courtesy only.


  • #3
    Spiritiser
    Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭Spiritiser


    January wrote: »
    No, they're provided out of courtesy only.
    so the shoping centre cannot make a rule of their own to clamp


  • #4
    Mr McBoatface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    Shopping centre's car parks are in general private and the private owners set the rules. They can clamp you if you break their rules, same for if you spend longer parked than allowed (some near me set a 3 hour max stay limit).

    Why do you ask ?


  • #5
    uberwolf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,580 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    Spiritiser wrote: »
    so the shoping centre cannot make a rule of their own to clamp

    you're on private property. afaik you currently have little protection from clampers on private property.


  • #6
    Spiritiser
    Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭Spiritiser


    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Shopping centre's car parks are in general private and the private owners set the rules. They can clamp you if you break their rules, same for if you spend longer parked than allowed (some near me set a 3 hour max stay limit).

    Why do you ask ?
    just wondered. i do not park in them if alone


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  • #7
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Spiritiser wrote: »
    so the shoping centre cannot make a rule of their own to clamp

    They can and some do have signs stating they will clamp people without children in these spaces but I've never actually seen it happen. Maybe because the shop doesn't want to lose customers.

    The Tesco I shop in, the staff park in the parent and child spaces, nothing is ever done.


  • #8
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    The legality of this varies depending on the circumstances.

    However, even in circumstances where it is perfectly lawful for them to clamp you, it is impossible to imagine how they could enforce this. For example, I could arrive alone in my car, park in one of those spaces and be clamped, only to return to my car with a wife and 3 small tots. (If I had any of these.)

    I'll leave it there because I can feel a rant coming on about unnecessarily pandering to people...


  • #9
    Bepolite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The legality of this varies depending on the circumstances.

    However, even in circumstances where it is perfectly lawful for them to clamp you, it is impossible to imagine how they could enforce this. For example, I could arrive alone in my car, park in one of those spaces and be clamped, only to return to my car with a wife and 3 small tots. (If I had any of these.)

    I'll leave it there because I can feel a rant coming on about unnecessarily pandering to people...

    I'm in the process of suing Tesco. When I were a lad, they didnt have these spaces and my mother used to drag me out of the car by my right arm. Now it's bigger than my left. I'm absolutely convinced it was becuase of this and for no other reason dispite a name many people refer to me by.


  • #10
    234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    Bepolite wrote: »
    I'm in the process of suing Tesco. When I were a lad, they didnt have these spaces and my mother used to drag me out of the car by my right arm. Now it's bigger than my left. I'm absolutely convinced it was becuase of this and for no other reason dispite a name many people refer to me by.

    Clear case of an inequality of arms.


  • #11
    NUTLEY BOY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    They never define "child".
    I used to go to Tesco with my mother when I was 25. She drove the car. I drove the trolley as her hip was banjaxed. Could they have clamped us even though we were legitimately mother and child:-)


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  • #12
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #13
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    'Boy's in the boot'. Spits tobacca on ground.


  • #14
    Wheelnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Wheelnut


    What about the "fee" for removing a clamp? Is that not a fine? I thought levying a fine or any other form of punishment requires a power that can only be conferred by law.


  • #15
    Ted_YNWA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Surely you could claim wife & kids walked further down town & thats why you're on your own.


  • #16
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #17
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    Hence they are totally unenforceable.
    If ever in bother, it would be easy to borrow a couple of kids for half an hour. Extra sweets promised the louder and more public a scene they make. Take pics, send to management company and local paper.


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