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Kevin Kilbane - Player Manager of Sligo?

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  • #102
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,542 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Trilla wrote: »
    maybe we should just leave it...because all these threads turn into LOI vs ROTW and to be honest the majority of people are fúcked up of it
    If it is bothering you so much, why are you still reading?


  • #103
    Radharc na Sleibhte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    Serious stuff went down tonight.
    Confirmed, again, Kilbane is a no go, never, never gonna happen.

    As stovelid said, appointing a manager appears to be a bit away yet...!!
    Turns out Aaron Greene got a signing on fee, even though he didnt sign, which he now has to repay.
    All appears to be a bit of a mess.
    Angry enough scenes tonight.


  • #104
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,822 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    CSF wrote: »
    If it is bothering you so much, why are you still reading?

    Because I'd like to see it, just to once, go down a different route.

    Is the reason why you're still posting because you enjoy it?

    Kevin Kilbane at Sligo won't happen, and I'd understand why Sligo fans and even LOI fans from other clubs would be shocked, worried and even annoyed... but surely to fúck it can be discussed like other stories/debates that link the LOI with other aspects of the game, without it going down the LOI vs the world debate again and again and again?


  • #105
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »
    Turns out Aaron Greene got a signing on fee, even though he didnt sign, which he now has to repay.
    All appears to be a bit of a mess.

    Isnt this exactly what happened with Turner? What kind of a circus are they running over there, caught paying players off the books AGAIN


  • #106
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    A "signing on fee" eh.


  • #107
    Radharc na Sleibhte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    CiaranC wrote: »
    What kind of a circus are they running over there

    Can i start a new thread?:rolleyes:
    Just as the going was good.

    They couldnt run a fecking race night imo.


  • #108
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    well this thread went off on a bit of a mad tangent while i was in work!


  • #109
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    CSF wrote: »
    I never used a direct quote so why are you? You've come in and said how great it would it be for the LOI to have an ex-Irish international in its ranks, and then when challenged on it, you've taken a condescending swipe at the club in question.
    I am in no ways being condescending towards Sligo Rovers, a club who I respect. The reality for them is that with a limited wage budget, and the fact that they operate on a small, peripheral island with a rubbish climate, that their potential pool of candidates is going to be limited (hence why we're seeing so many risky candidates up for the job).

    To use an analogy; I cannot afford to purchase a Bentley, but it wouldn't offend me if someone suggested I buy a Skoda instead.


  • #110
    edolan
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭edolan


    Raskolnikov wrote: »
    Get over yourself. This is Sligo Rovers we're talking about, a club that seemingly have not been able to compete with a League 2 side to keep their manager. Scores of much bigger teams have went with unproven managers and it has worked out.

    It wasn't just any League 2 club, it was his last club to play for, also near his home and young family in England. Sure he turned down an SPL club a few months before, which is a higher standard than League 2. You're right plenty of teams have given an unknown manager a chance and has worked out very well. But rarely have any of those teams been in a position to challenge for the league. A lot of people who are posting in this thread wouldn't have an opinion on who the next Rovers manager should be if it wasn't for the fact that Kevin Kilbane was linked with the job.


  • #111
    edolan
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭edolan


    CiaranC wrote: »
    Isnt this exactly what happened with Turner? What kind of a circus are they running over there, caught paying players off the books AGAIN

    If it's that clear that we are paying players off the books why haven't the FAI done something about it?


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  • #112
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Your board just announced at a public meeting that they paid Greene even though he wasnt signed. Id ask the same question of the FAI, but I suspect I know the answer already - that they are incompetent fools.


  • #113
    edolan
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭edolan


    CiaranC wrote: »
    Your board just announced at a public meeting that they paid Greene even though he wasnt signed. Id ask the same question of the FAI, but I suspect I know the answer already - that they are incompetent fools.

    Only paid since the beginning of pre-season, but he should not have been when there was a chance of him leaving. Some gross incompetence shown by our board. Very amateur on our part but they obviously took it in good faith that he would sign.


  • #114
    carlcon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭carlcon


    CSF wrote: »
    Don't ask me why Des found it necessary to tell someone to **** off. Ask him yourself. For the record, I don't think Des telling someone to **** off is going to have any impact on attendances anywhere, but allow him to explain his own reasoning behind the necessity.

    Nope, that wouldn't put people off going at all. But his attitude is very representative of the general vibe given from LOI goers towards other people... and that is the problem. I try to go to random games on occasion, simply as a fan of football, not a fan of any particular Irish team, and it's extremely difficult to avoid negative treatment from regular LoI fans if I ever get chatting to them.

    Back On Topic: Kilbane can only fail by coming here to manage a club that people expect to do well. It would be a horrible way to start a management career, IMO. He's much better off at a lowly English club that aren't expected to do much, with the hope of "proving people wrong", than going to a decent Irish club were the media will be dying for him to "prove people right" by failing. He'd have to win the league here to be considered "worth the gamble".


  • #115
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,542 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    carlcon wrote: »
    I try to go to random games on occasion, simply as a fan of football, not a fan of any particular Irish team, and it's extremely difficult to avoid negative treatment from regular LoI fans if I ever get chatting to them.
    Well I have to say I find that interesting as I've been going to games for years and never hear the word barstooler used, or even insinuated at a game. I can only suggest you are possibly visiting the wrong clubs.

    In any case, that sort of behaviour is completely unacceptable towards people who are showing a genuine interest in the league, and naturally would turn those people off Irish football.

    I don't buy however that a few lads on the internet with a different opinion (even presented rudely) has any impact, because in the end if you post on any forum about anything on the internet, you're probably going to encounter this in some form. I can't accept that this is any different in the United or Liverpool threads.


  • #116
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,542 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    stovelid wrote: »
    A "signing on fee" eh.
    This is seriously dodgy, and following on from Turner someone should definitely have a peek at Sligo's accounts, to make sure everything is ok.


  • #117
    _blank_
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    I have never, ever seen someone actually AT a match being openly mocked in that fashion.


  • #118
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Going to old firm games; Manchester and Lancashire derbies and Chelsea games: grand.

    Going to LOI games: highly dangerous due to scant chance of somebody asking you to produce season ticket evidence of attendance for last 10 years and judging you.


  • #119
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    stovelid wrote: »
    Going to old firm games; Manchester and Lancashire derbies and Chelsea games: grand.

    Going to LOI games: highly dangerous due to scant chance of somebody asking you to produce season ticket evidence of attendance for last 10 years and judging you.

    Get and give abuse all over the Man U, Liverpool, Celtic, Ranger "super" threads. Still go to games/watch on TV

    Someone uses the word barstooler in a thread; get "offended" and pretend it's the reason I don't like the LoI.

    Pull the other one lads. :rolleyes:


  • #120
    The Chessplayer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭The Chessplayer


    Des wrote: »
    Get and give abuse all over the Man U, Liverpool, Celtic, Ranger "super" threads. Still go to games/watch on TV

    Someone uses the word barstooler in a thread; get "offended" and pretend it's the reason I don't like the LoI.

    Pull the other one lads. :rolleyes:
    Actually have to agree with you here Des, but I still think your early comments were moronic. Some of the anti-LOI element on this thread seemed to be waiting in the long grass ready to stick the boot in.

    I have never experienced a closedshop attitude from LOI fans. The reason I rarely go to matches is because I'm too lazy.

    Xavi - you say you could develop a real interest in LOI if people were nicer to you. I think you're being a bit disingenuous. You're hardly going to go to matches if you live in Australia! Debates on internet forums don't affect attendences. What is more damaging to football in general (LOI included) is the emergence of glory-hunter clubs like Manchester City. These overnight sensations are bad for the game. I feel there has been a knock on affect in LOI.

    I still think Kilbane would be good for Sligo, if he'd be interested. An experienced LOI campaigner as his no.2 would go along way too.


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  • #121
    _blank_
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    The Chessplayer wrote: »
    Xavi - you say you could develop a real interest in LOI if people were nicer to you. I think you're being a bit disingenuous. You're hardly going to go to matches if you live in Australia!

    Xavi is a Shelbourne supporter, and when he lived in Ireland, he was a regular at Tolka Park. I even spotted him at a pre-season friendly a couple of years back when he was on a visit home, he was freezing his tits off in the back arse of nowhere on the roads between Finglas and Blanchardstown. It was not a nice evening to be out, especially for someone on a visit from Down Under in the middle of February (their summer, don't forget)


  • #122
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The Chessplayer wrote: »

    Xavi - you say you could develop a real interest in LOI if people were nicer to you. I think you're being a bit disingenuous. You're hardly going to go to matches if you live in Australia!

    Xavi is a Shels supporter, in fairness.

    Edit: just spotted Des' post


  • #123
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    to but this to bed once and for all. a uefa pro licence is required. he does not have one. our manager is required to have one or in the process of getting one he is doing neither there for he has being ruled out.

    thread closed.


  • #124
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    To be honest, I've seen strangers in the bar in Tolka be treated in an almost overly friendly manner. Almost if people are trying to get them hooked on the whole culture of the club and not just what goes on out on the pitch.


  • #125
    The Chessplayer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭The Chessplayer


    Des wrote: »
    Xavi is a Shelbourne supporter, and when he lived in Ireland, he was a regular at Tolka Park.

    How do you lads all know each other?


  • #126
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,822 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Des wrote: »
    Someone uses the word barstooler in a thread; get "offended" and pretend it's the reason I don't like the LoI.

    I like the LOI
    I like the EPL
    I like the football in general...

    I fúcking hate the way these threads go south all the time, in the same way most of us hate half the crap in the Liverpool v United match threads.


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  • #127
    iregk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    The Chessplayer wrote: »
    How do you lads all know each other?

    Hell hath no fury like LOI fans scorned...

    We'll tear into each other, but step in between us and we'll rain all over you!!!


  • #128
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I know Xavi because he used to play for Boardeaux, I know a few of the other lads because at matches we sometimes have pints with each other.

    I've even stayed in the house of a lad from here in Cork when Shels played down there a couple of times.

    We hate each other on here, and for an hour and a half on Fridays, but apart from that, pre-games, post-games, we're friendly enough.

    Apart from dreamers and his obsession


  • #129
    dreamers75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Des wrote: »

    Apart from dreamers and his obsession

    I hate Shels and Des ......mostly Des.


  • #130
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    This is all becoming an umcomfortable mix of esprit de corps and gayness.

    The start of the season will sort that right out.


  • #131
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    How long is it since Kevin Kilbane has been mentioned?


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  • #132
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    The Chessplayer wrote: »
    How do you lads all know each other?

    Almost as if we all regularly turn up in the same venue to watch sporting events. :)

    There were also the Poker forum v Soccer forum friendlies a couple of years ago, high ratio of LOI supporters showed up for the soccer forum including Des reffing.


  • #133
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I've always been amazed in general that some LOI fans feel they can look down on me despite the fact I actually train or play football 4 times a week whilst they want pedestal treatment for going to a football game?


  • #134
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    noodler wrote: »
    I've always been amazed in general that some LOI fans feel they can look down on me despite the fact I actually train or play football 4 times a week whilst they want pedestal treatment for going to a football game?

    I similarly feel amazed that some EPL fans can look down on me because the product they watch is superior and how can I watch that ****e.

    Always love the auld "but who do you really support" question when you tell someone who you support.


  • #135
    iregk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    noodler wrote: »
    I've always been amazed in general that some LOI fans feel they can look down on me despite the fact I actually train or play football 4 times a week whilst they want pedestal treatment for going to a football game?

    How do you know don't play as well? I used to play at LOI level, do I get to doubly look down my nose at you?


  • #136
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    bohsman wrote: »
    I similarly feel amazed that some EPL fans can look down on me because the product they watch is superior and how can I watch that ****e.

    Always love the auld "but who do you really support" question when you tell someone who you support.

    The quality of the LOI isn't really the issue here though, is it?

    In this thread the focus seems to be more on holier-than-thou LOI fans.
    iregk wrote: »
    How do you know don't play as well? I used to play at LOI level, do I get to doubly look down my nose at you?

    How do I know who doesn't play? I didn't reference you directly.

    You don't get to look down your nose,even if you played LOI - thats the point


  • #137
    Radharc na Sleibhte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    forza rovers wrote: »
    to but this to bed once and for all. a uefa pro licence is required. he does not have one. our manager is required to have one or in the process of getting one he is doing neither there for he has being ruled out.

    thread closed.

    Talk in the weekender of Brian Little, Brian Kerr, Julian Dicks, Richardson, Collins have all allegedly applied.

    Who's your preferance Forza?
    Gerry Carr has come out and said he's ready and wants it.
    He'd be the cheap easy option but I dunno.


  • #138
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    noodler wrote: »



    The quality of the LOI isn't really the issue here though, is it?

    In this thread the focus seems to be more on holier-than-thou LOI fans.


    Well whatever the reason LOI fans take abuse for daring to follow their league then. Not sure where in this thread LOI fans have been taking holier-than-thou attitudes either? Football fans were ridiculed for saying that they thought a man with no coaching badges or experience should take over as player-manager for a title challenging club who will be playing European football this season.


  • #139
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    bohsman wrote: »
    Not sure where in this thread LOI fans have been taking holier-than-thou attitudes either?

    From the first page:
    stovelid wrote: »
    Because LOI supporters are supposed to be convulsed with excitement if their club is associated with somebody that barstoolers and Ole Oles recognize.
    Des wrote: »
    so, it's mostly patronising bullshít from people with no clue.

    What's new in threads like these?

    kindly fúck off, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.


  • #140
    Radharc na Sleibhte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    So much for trying to bring the thread back on topic and discuss the fecking issue.
    Oh. Well.


  • #141
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    noodler wrote: »
    From the first page:

    If I go into an EPL thread and say similarly naive and patronising stuff I would also be laughed out of it. Nothing to do with the fact that I'm a LOI fan just that I'm posting bollox.


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  • #142
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »
    So much for trying to bring the thread back on topic and discuss the fecking issue.
    Oh. Well.

    Thought it had been resolved. No badges, no experience, Sligo are going to keep his CV on file, in a filing cabinet.


  • #143
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    bohsman wrote: »
    If I go into an EPL thread and say similarly naive and patronising stuff I would also be laughed out of it. Nothing to do with the fact that I'm a LOI fan just that I'm posting bollox.


    So, acting like Dicks because they are football fans, not LOI fans?

    Des wrote: »

    Someone uses the word barstooler in a thread; get "offended" and pretend it's the reason I don't like the LoI.

    Pull the other one lads. :rolleyes:


  • #144
    bohsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    noodler wrote: »
    So, acting like Dicks because they are football fans, not LOI fans?

    Yea pretty much, as I say there's always a few anti LOI threads hanging around waiting to pounce aswell (although one less now that Flah is gone)

    Its the internet, post rubbish and expect to get called up on it or told to gtfo, not always in a patient friendly manner.

    See this heavily thanked post for how EPL fans posting rubbish get ridiculed by other EPL fans - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73816191&postcount=9373


  • #145
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »
    So much for trying to bring the thread back on topic and discuss the fecking issue.
    Oh. Well.

    I've tried and failed too.

    Its now even longer since Kevin Kilbane has been mentioned in this thread about Kevin Kilbane.


  • #146
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,822 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    bohsman wrote: »
    Thought it had been resolved. No badges, no experience, Sligo are going to keep his CV on file, in a filing cabinet.

    Donegal-Catch-IIBDONE002030-1-624x350.jpg


  • #147
    dfx-
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    stovelid wrote: »
    This is all becoming an umcomfortable mix of esprit de corps and gayness.

    The start of the season will sort that right out.

    Most pre-season games and Setanta games have avoided the PD facing each other.

    Or could bitching-at-each-other fatigue be already setting in? :eek:
    dan1895 wrote: »
    I've tried and failed too.

    Its now even longer since Kevin Kilbane has been mentioned in this thread about Kevin Kilbane.

    Arguably the thread is about the vacant Sligo manager job, so it doesn't have to be about one person...


  • #148
    iregk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    noodler wrote: »
    How do I know who doesn't play? I didn't reference you directly.

    You didn't reference me directly. You said you were amazed in general how some fans look down on you despite you training and playing football. I'm just saying how do you know LOI fans on here don't also train and play. The fact that you train and play football doesn't make you some sort of footballing god. Most of us on here would play and training regularly.

    In any case you've dragged this thread soooooooo far off topic it's not even funny.


  • #149
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    iregk wrote: »
    You didn't reference me directly. You said you were amazed in general how some fans look down on you despite you training and playing football. I'm just saying how do you know LOI fans on here don't also train and play. The fact that you train and play football doesn't make you some sort of footballing god. Most of us on here would play and training regularly.

    In any case you've dragged this thread soooooooo far off topic it's not even funny.

    You are completely twisting my words to change the meaning of what I actually said.

    And then, to top it all off, you finish your post with a "In any case..." in the obvious hope I won't call you up on it.

    I did say I don't feel I should be looked down on by LOI fans (particularly the ones who don't play) simply for not supporting the local team in my town when I actually train and play for the local team in my village.

    I didn't say anything about being expected to be treated like a "footballing god" as a result of this but nice hyperbole anyway.

    If you think I dragged the thread off-topic then say it at the beginning. It is utterly pathetic to participate in an off-topic discussion for a couple of posts and then call someone up on it.


  • #150
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Hark.The Noodler cavalry rearguard.

    That said: at least it's not Flah, Jazzy and CHD anymore.


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  • #151
    iregk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    noodler wrote: »
    And then, to top it all off, you finish your post with a "In any case..." in the obvious hope I won't call you up on it.

    If you think I dragged the thread off-topic then say it at the beginning. It is utterly pathetic to participate in an off-topic discussion for a couple of posts and then call someone up on it.

    Personally I could give a rats ass if you call me up on something or not so to say I was hoping I wouldn't be actually gave me a bit of a chuckle. Thanks.

    As for your second comment well I've participated in christ knows how many discussions and more people that I could possibly count comment and then say it's off topic in any case. If stuff like that gets to you or any of the posts in this thread for that matter get to you (they are very clean in fairness) then I'm sorry but you just haven't the neck for the LOI threads. But it's good to have you in any case.

    Seriously man come back during the season. You need a neck make of brass to hold your own in some of our threads so if this one got to you, then there is little hope.

    Anyway on topic, what are we talking about? Oh yeah, Kevin Kilbane. Not sure he'd be good for this. No badges from what I hear taking charge of a title chasing team and desires on a euro run. Not good.


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