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By no means should anyone be "banned" for not posting but the annoying part is they say ok ill find out the price of postage then 3 days later they say oh i dont want to post would a set up like adverts be able to be put in place
Collection
Delivery
Post
in the starting ad.
One thing people should be made do is post pictures of what they are selling/trading no picture no ad and none of this pictures up later or ill post pictures if there is interest that bugs me if your taking the time to place an ad have the pictures ready
Another thing is not posting asking prices/fps just lock the thread until they pm a mod to get it open again and post the info required

Again i ask the question is it one rule for MODs and another for the rest of us ?????
This guy was banned for a week for Profiteering http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056747381 and rightly so

Then you have a MOD doing the same thing here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056747215 and nothing is done about it :eek:
Before the Mod edited the first post at 17:17 today it was up as €50 posted or €40 collected amazing how it was edited 6 minutes after i posted my question

thermo wrote: »

Profiteering:


trying to sell an item (not scarce or high in demand) for less than half the price of the same item as new is not profiteering.
maybe re read the rules to understand them better or if you need help with definitions post here and have them explained.

Well then how come another MOD banned dryndantheman for a week and classed it as profiteering when he was selling the item for less than the price new but double what he paid for it ???? Maybe im not the only one that needs to reread the rules and understand them :rolleyes:

grapeape wrote: »

Again i ask the question is it one rule for MODs and another for the rest of us ?????
This guy was banned for a week for Profiteering http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056747381 and rightly so

Then you have a MOD doing the same thing here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056747215 and nothing is done about it :eek:
Before the Mod edited the first post at 17:17 today it was up as €50 posted or €40 collected amazing how it was edited 6 minutes after i posted my question

Id still like my question answered by either another MOD (not the one whose actions I was questioning) or a Category Mod

In the current case the OP ( Thermo ) withdrew the item from sale as soon as he became aware of its origins.

In the other case the OP (dryndantheman) persisted with the sale even though other posters were pointing out his error. When i asked a question, he queried why a MOD would be involved and only after my intervention did he withdraw the item.

dryndantheman got a ban for persisting to push the sale even though the evidence against him from other posters was overwhelming.

In this instance Thermo has done the right thing and no longer offers it for sale.

I hope this answers your question.

thermo wrote: »

Profiteering:


trying to sell an item (not scarce or high in demand) for less than half the price of the same item as new is not profiteering.
maybe re read the rules to understand them better or if you need help with definitions post here and have them explained.

Going by this post from thermo neither he nor dryndantheman were profiteering so how could did dryndantheman be banned for pushing it ????

Dogwatch wrote: »

He was banned for persisting with the sale even though it had been pointed out to him that he was looking for over twice what he paid. He only withdrew it when a MOD(me) stepped in. In this case. the OP withdrew the item as soon as he became aware of his error.

In my opinion this incident is minor and was corrected as soon as possible. The other incident was pushed by the OP as far as possible to sell the item. IF you are unhappy with my opinion, please contact a C Mod by either PM or report the post and ask for a C Mod to review it.

I think ill get the same answer from a C Mod that you gave me i can see an end to me using this forum at this stage

Steve wrote: »

Neither of these cases were profiteering as defined by the rules.

We're discussing what happened in the mod forum - I'm not entirely happy about how this was handled - the same rules apply to everyone in the forum with the exception that moderator posts do not constitute thread spoiling.

I'll re-post what I posted there, this sums up the rule in question:


If the forum needs a rule that specifically says you can't sell for more than you bought for then that can be discussed - from experience on adverts.ie it's a very unfair rule and practically non-enforceable.

The head-wrecker for the mods here is trying to make a call on when someone is blatantly taking the pi$$ with their pricing vs someone making a few quid more than they paid for (which is not a rule breach).

Hope that explains it a bit better

It does explain it alot better and not taken a side but the way i see it is dryndantheman was asked why is he asking for over double what he paid for and was banned for a week for the charter breach of profiteering and then you have thermo asking again over double what he paid for the item and nothing happens A blind man can see how this looks I just think its taking the pi$$ Thanks for your time in this Steve and Dogwatch

Steve wrote: »

What if they bought it on bookface / ebay for €10?
What if they bought it in a closing down sale for €10 and all other retailers have it for €40?

Would the rule only cover stuff specifically previously bought / sold on this forum?

See the problem there?

Start with this Forum and work from there what your saying now is the launcher and sthunder i bought here for €50 i can now repost for €150 as its €200 in the shops now that would be taking the pi$$

When its made clear on thread or pm to a mod like i did in the dryndantheman case when i offered on the item then dogwatch stepped in and banned him for a week which is 100% right granted hightower1 did it the other way on thermos thread but Deburca gives out to hightower1 for thread spoiling and does nothing to thermo for over charging Thats the part thats annoying me about the whole thing and made me ask the question in the first place

Steve wrote: »

If you did that then there's no rule breach so you're perfectly entitled to do so.

If this is so then why did dryndantheman get banned for a week for "pushing it" after a mod stepped in ?

Lads this has to stop, Make an offer for the fun of it ???? , You reply yes and lower your asking price, And no reply, Common this is not fair, You are intrested in an item or you are not, But at least Reply , If You want to make an offer let the seller know what you want to do, Example ,Hi Plinker I would like to make an offer based on collection if you are close to me, I am not willing to do postage so please let me know were you are based and how far you can travel before I make an offer,
I've accepted offers twice on threads here were I have lowered my price and had to withdraw my items One link below,

Very Very Annoyed, No I'm pi##ed off to be exact:mad::mad:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056710053

I've just thought of a great idea, that will benfit many and would not take much to setup, we already have a Users feedback sticky and cannot believe we do not have a Mod's feedback sticky in the Airsoft forum. As Mod's are always open and if something can be learnt, they are always open to that

Also, this would be an excellent way for all to see how decisions are applied, with more transparency then ever and to be fair, there would be rules as to what cannot be posted

Plus, if there is anything I can do to help, I'm offering my time and effort to get this off the ground

Does anyone else feel this would be a good idea?

brenak47 wrote: »

just been looking at some of the feedback to the forum.i'm new to this site and airsoft in the game you play fair and take your hit and i think people using this to buy there stuff should be the same if your really interested in an item you should be allowed to take it to pm and if you want to haggle the price then do it there as this won't affect the orig price the person is trying to get.prices can be dropped if buyer has to do the traveling where as if the buyer is near enough the seller can get his full price or close to it.i've seen ones where people are having to repost 10 - 15 euro less cause of time wasters and i don't believe its fair on the seller.i myself will only post to the ones im really interested in to save this from happening fair is fair either way the price you get it from here is cheaper than the shop so why f**k people over thats all i have to say not many will agree with me but i don't care thats what this part of the forum is for

IMHO while most of the folks who use the Airsoft Adverts forum are genuine, there have on occasion been chancers both buying and selling.

As you pointed out, there are folks who fein interest in an item, haggle the asking price down and then walk away, leaving the seller with a lower asking price. This is not nice, but IMHO the onus is on the seller to have a figure in their head that they think is fair and which is the lowest they are prepared to go and then stick to their guns.

On the flip side, there have on occasion been folks who have tried to sell items which the purchased on the forum for the same or a higher price. Having all dealings done on thread helps IMO limit these situations as other posters may spot this and report the poster.

Again this is not nice and IMO the onus here is for parties interested in an item to check back in the forum (search function) to see if item was purchased here previously and at what price. If a higher price is being sought, have there been any upgrades which would account for the difference or is the seller just chancing their arm. Also check the user feedback forum to see if others have had dealings with this person and how they found the experience.

This is why we have a User feed back thread. If you find yourself dealing with a buyer or seller like this, then provide negative feed back in the User feed back thread for that user.

If you notice this carry on in a thread that you are not active in, but think another user is on the receiving end, then drop the Mods a PM highlighting your suspicions and they will investigate.

By flagging dubious buyers and sellers in this way you will help weed them out and help others see who are the reputable folks to deal with

May be a stupid idea, but what about an Airsoft News forum, where fellow airsofters can post links to the best new guns etc released, and just have general banter
Sounds silly but it would give us all something to talk about

andy_g wrote: »

We already have one the airsoft news thread on the main forum.

My god I completely missed that!
Have no clue how though
Anyway, sorry for that complete waste of time haha
I can only laugh at myself

Can it be made part of the rules that seeing as you can edit your first post within 24 hours that people are not technically allowed to bump their thread by adding new information or pictures with another post hours after their first one