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  • #702
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    kensutz wrote: »
    It's one of the reasons why I'm leaving Munster for Leinster next year. Some of the decisions and appointments have been baffling.
    Shame to be losing you. Yes they have, too many decisions being decided by too few that will mainly benefit a small minority


  • #703
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Shannon-St Marys won the Munster u19s final today played in CIT today beating Bandon in a very good game on a scoreline of 8-6
    Great game played at great tempo with a great atmosphere
    Only things to complain about were the lack of neutral touch judges and an independent 4th official and the lack of a decent programme similar to what is at the senior schools finals
    Match Report http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10284.php


  • #704
    Dave Joyce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dave Joyce


    Connacht final will be played between Monivea and Westport. Corinthians beat Creggs 25-3 in a quarter final of the plate and will play Galwegians in the semi final. Not sure who are in the other sides of the draw.


  • #705
    clubrug
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭clubrug


    Clonmel and Waterpark are playing East munster U19 cup final saturday, both getting to the final without playing a game, as both received walkovers to the final, other sides not being able to put teams together. Wonder what can be put in place to stop this repeating, most clubs in East fear for next year at this age level!
    Not a happy reflection in a division that rugby has grown and been particularly strong enough in recent times.


  • #706
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    clubrug wrote: »
    Clonmel and Waterpark are playing East munster U19 cup final saturday, both getting to the final without playing a game, as both received walkovers to the final, other sides not being able to put teams together. Wonder what can be put in place to stop this repeating, most clubs in East fear for next year at this age level!
    Not a happy reflection in a division that rugby has grown and been particularly strong enough in recent times.
    Nenagh have had players involved in 1st team and 2nds in recent weeks and have struggled to field at 19s once those players were called up
    Things should be better next season i believe, in terms of competition structure. Not as many players away at college in Nenaghs case.
    In My Opinion the League should go to Pan Munster straight away with the best teams in the province playing each other more often with several divisions made up based on teams strength and ability
    For example the top 16-20 clubs should be split into 2 groups of 8-10 and play at least 7 games. The top 4 go into semis and final.
    The next strongest 16 clubs or so do the same and the next level of clubs do the same
    Regional leagues and cups can still be played throughout the season


  • #707
    muscleshirt
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    clubrug wrote: »
    Clonmel and Waterpark are playing East munster U19 cup final saturday, both getting to the final without playing a game, as both received walkovers to the final, other sides not being able to put teams together. Wonder what can be put in place to stop this repeating, most clubs in East fear for next year at this age level!
    Not a happy reflection in a division that rugby has grown and been particularly strong enough in recent times.
    age group to go back 16-18-20
    will that make a difference?


  • #708
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    muscleshirt wrote: »
    age group to go back 16-18-20
    will that make a difference?
    That hasnt been decided yet, has it?
    If it does, what way will the age groups be made up next year?
    This year 21s was 91s and 92s, 19s was 93s and 94s and 17s was 95s and 96s
    A change could mean some kids lose out on a year of underage rugby


  • #709
    Catalpa1
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Catalpa1


    South Munster Cup semi final on Saturday
    Clonakilty vrs Highfield. Highfield somehow managed to beat Clon in the Pan Munster but Clon will feel they left it behind them that day. Highfield were missing a few and I think they have a few with injuries at the moment but should be another cracker in Clon, kick off at 11am as far as I know


  • #710
    ormond lad
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    Catalpa1 wrote: »
    South Munster Cup semi final on Saturday
    Clonakilty vrs Highfield. Highfield somehow managed to beat Clon in the Pan Munster but Clon will feel they left it behind them that day. Highfield were missing a few and I think they have a few with injuries at the moment but should be another cracker in Clon, kick off at 11am as far as I know
    Kick off is at 11 according to referees website


  • #711
    KJY
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭KJY


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Nenagh have had players involved in 1st team and 2nds in recent weeks and have struggled to field at 19s once those players were called up
    Things should be better next season i believe, in terms of competition structure. Not as many players away at college in Nenaghs case.
    In My Opinion the League should go to Pan Munster straight away with the best teams in the province playing each other more often with several divisions made up based on teams strength and ability
    For example the top 16-20 clubs should be split into 2 groups of 8-10 and play at least 7 games. The top 4 go into semis and final.
    The next strongest 16 clubs or so do the same and the next level of clubs do the same
    Regional leagues and cups can still be played throughout the season

    That is a good idea. There are so many pointless 40+ point wins in the regional leagues. Picking which teams to compete would be more difficult though. Picking on previous season wouldn't be fair as quality of teams vary greatly between years


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  • #712
    ormond lad
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    KJY wrote: »
    That is a good idea. There are so many pointless 40+ point wins in the regional leagues. Picking which teams to compete would be more difficult though. Picking on previous season wouldn't be fair as quality of teams vary greatly between years
    I know its difficult enough to judge teams as players vary each year and all that but in most cases you will know which teams are going to be the stongest for example Waterpark, Shannon, Highfield, etc
    If club teams play more games against teams of their own standard things should improve especially if the top teams are playing the best teams week in week out


  • #713
    KJY
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭KJY


    If the pools are picked correctly it would be fantastic


  • #714
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    u19 all ireland semis scheduled for 21/22 April with
    Shannon-St Marys v Monivea and Malone v Gorey
    Final scheduled for following weekend

    u17
    Bruff v Westport
    Navan v Banbridge
    Games scheduled for same weekend as 19s


  • #715
    specttator
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭specttator


    Thanks for this info. do you know if these u17 matches are to be played at neutral venues?


  • #716
    KJY
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭KJY


    Well neutral for 'Park and 'Wegians last year was the Sportsground


  • #717
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    specttator wrote: »
    Thanks for this info. do you know if these u17 matches are to be played at neutral venues?
    normally the all irelands are played at neutral venues


  • #718
    RoundBox11
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    Hey ive a random question and i thought this thread was the most fitting that i could find!

    Theres been a bit of hype about this Harrison Brewer kid from Terenure and i noticed that he's playing at 12 for the Irish U18 schools side. I thought he was a no. 8 no?

    I know its random but i just thought it was strange that a player with so much potential as a forward is being switched to being a back??


  • #719
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    RoundBox11 wrote: »
    Hey ive a random question and i thought this thread was the most fitting that i could find!

    Theres been a bit of hype about this Harrison Brewer kid from Terenure and i noticed that he's playing at 12 for the Irish U18 schools side. I thought he was a no. 8 no?

    I know its random but i just thought it was strange that a player with so much potential as a forward is being switched to being a back??
    Best suited to schools thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056366988

    He played 8 up the age groups but clearly the terenure coaches this year believe he is better suited to playing 12 at the moment
    Not that strange in him playing 12 dispite his apparant skill in the back row and he will improve as a player by playing a year in the centre in a position different to where he normally players


  • #720
    mountain
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Kick off is at 11 according to referees website

    This game off.


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  • #721
    Catalpa1
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Catalpa1


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ormond lad viewpost.gif
    Kick off is at 11 according to referees website

    This game off.

    Yep Clonakilty Highfield U 17 is cancelled, dont know the reason the Highfield lads got a text this even it may be due to the bird flu down in CLon but dont really know


  • #722
    rugby_fan
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭rugby_fan


    Have heard that Ireland u19s are playing France in templeville road after the irish youths match this thursday,
    Should be two good games!


  • #723
    ormond lad
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    rugby_fan wrote: »
    Have heard that Ireland u19s are playing France in templeville road after the irish youths match this thursday,
    Should be two good games!
    They are playing france like the youths and they are also travelling to england to face an english 19s side


  • #724
    ScareGilly
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    Anyone got a link to the under 19s team? One of my teammates is on it and just wondering about the rest of the team..


  • #725
    ormond lad
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    ScareGilly wrote: »
    Anyone got a link to the under 19s team? One of my teammates is on it and just wondering about the rest of the team..
    Below is the 32 training squad picked for the 19s for the camp held over xmas. I imagine the squad will be very similar to this

    Edward Byrne - Clongowes College
    Bryan Byrne - Clongowes College
    James Connolly - Newbridge
    Jamie Dever - Westport Rice College
    Barry Digby - Marist
    Ultan Dillane - Tralee
    Tom Farrell - Castleknock College
    Brian Haugh - Young Munster
    Robert Henshaw - Marist
    Niall Horan - UL Bohemians
    Conor Joyce - Malone
    Donagh Lawler - St. Michael's College
    Darragh Leader - Galwegians
    Eoghan Masterson - Clontarf
    Max McFarland - Clongowes College
    Harry McNulty - Dublin University
    Michael Mellet - Castleknock College
    Kenneth Murphy - Pres Bray
    Stuart Olding - Belfast Harlequins
    Matthew Rea - Ballymena Academy
    Mark Roche - Lansdowne
    Rory Scholes - Belfast Harlequins
    Christopher Taylor - Malone
    Gavin Thornbury - Blackrock College
    Josh van der Flier - UCD
    John Andrew - Ballymena
    Steven Crosbie - Old Belvedere
    David Panter - Corinthians
    John Donnan - Ballynahinch
    Jerry Sexton - St. Mary's College
    Ryan Murphy - Dolphin
    Jack Fitzpatrick - Gonzaga College


  • #726
    John_Rambo
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    Moving!! Sorry.


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  • #727
    ormond lad
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Hope I'm posting in the right place, I felt this has to be said after having the pleasure of seeing a few schools matches over the last few months on Setanta. The skill levels, fitness levels, ambition, maturity and tenacity of most of the teams is phenomenal. Hats off to coaches and students, sometimes I can't believe they are school kids.

    The future looks good.

    And... what the fook are yes eating? :)
    This is the youths thread, the schools thread is here.


  • #728
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    ormond lad wrote: »
    This is the youths thread, the schools thread is here.

    Thanks dude, Mods, you can delete that now! I will repost in the right place.


  • #729
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Waterpark won east 19s cup yesterday beating clonmel in clonmel 37-12 so keep on track to potentially win all 4 east cups after winning the 4 leagues(13s,15s,17s,19s) earlier in the season


  • #730
    KJY
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭KJY


    They lost the 15s I think. If they beat Cashel in the semi-final today they will most likely win the 17s as well. 7 out of 8 would be acceptable I suppose


  • #731
    Dave Joyce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dave Joyce


    'Wegians conceeded the semi final to Corinthians so the Cup and Plate finals are set for next Sunday April 8th in I think the Sportsground. Cup is Monivea V Westport and the Plate is Corinthians V Ballinrobe.

    Thought I'd just mention Corinthians 16's who played in the first round of the All Ireland U16 Blitz yesterday. Games are just 10mins aside and they won all 4 games scoring 132 points and conceding none. The quarter, semi and final take place at the end of the month.


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  • #732
    specttator
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭specttator


    Speaking of matches won, i hear Ashbourne beat Kilkenny u 17s to reach semi finals of Culliton Cup, I don't know the score nor the names of the others to reach this stage. Any info?


  • #733
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Dave Joyce wrote: »

    Thought I'd just mention Corinthians 16's who played in the first round of the All Ireland U16 Blitz yesterday. Games are just 10mins aside and they won all 4 games scoring 132 points and conceding none. The quarter, semi and final take place at the end of the month.
    What comp is that?
    are you sure its an all ireland comp as theres no 16s comp like that in munster


  • #734
    BigHeel
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭BigHeel


    specttator wrote: »
    Speaking of matches won, i hear Ashbourne beat Kilkenny u 17s to reach semi finals of Culliton Cup, I don't know the score nor the names of the others to reach this stage. Any info?

    Ashbourne won 20-8. They now play Navan (who beat Naas 34-8). The other semi final is Mullingar (beat New Ross 37-7) v Tullamore (beat Dundalk 15-14).


  • #735
    BigHeel
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭BigHeel


    ormond lad wrote: »
    What comp is that?
    are you sure its an all ireland comp as theres no 16s comp like that in munster

    It is not an All Ireland. It is an invitational event run by DLSP.


  • #736
    ScareGilly
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Below is the 32 training squad picked for the 19s for the camp held over xmas. I imagine the squad will be very similar to this

    Edward Byrne - Clongowes College
    Bryan Byrne - Clongowes College
    James Connolly - Newbridge
    Jamie Dever - Westport Rice College
    Barry Digby - Marist
    Ultan Dillane - Tralee
    Tom Farrell - Castleknock College
    Brian Haugh - Young Munster
    Robert Henshaw - Marist
    Niall Horan - UL Bohemians
    Conor Joyce - Malone
    Donagh Lawler - St. Michael's College
    Darragh Leader - Galwegians
    Eoghan Masterson - Clontarf
    Max McFarland - Clongowes College
    Harry McNulty - Dublin University
    Michael Mellet - Castleknock College
    Kenneth Murphy - Pres Bray
    Stuart Olding - Belfast Harlequins
    Matthew Rea - Ballymena Academy
    Mark Roche - Lansdowne
    Rory Scholes - Belfast Harlequins
    Christopher Taylor - Malone
    Gavin Thornbury - Blackrock College
    Josh van der Flier - UCD
    John Andrew - Ballymena
    Steven Crosbie - Old Belvedere
    David Panter - Corinthians
    John Donnan - Ballynahinch
    Jerry Sexton - St. Mary's College
    Ryan Murphy - Dolphin
    Jack Fitzpatrick - Gonzaga College

    Only seen them players play... Anyone have any idea of who the captain or vice-captain is? Or any idea if the players highlighted have a good chance?
    I know David Panter's leg is shagged, seen him on two crutches and a full leg brace, so I'd imagine that's him ruled out..


  • #737
    rrpc
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    ScareGilly wrote: »
    Only seen them players play... Anyone have any idea of who the captain or vice-captain is? Or any idea if the players highlighted have a good chance?
    I know David Panter's leg is shagged, seen him on two crutches and a full leg brace, so I'd imagine that's him ruled out..
    I'd say it's between Darragh Leader and Steve Crosbie for the 10 slot. Both very good from the tee as well as good attacking players.


  • #738
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    IRELAND UNDER-18 CLUBS Team & Replacements (v France Under-18 Clubs, Thursday, April 5, St. Mary's College RFC, kick-off 12pm):
    15 - Rueben Pepper-Hobbs (Westport/Connacht)
    14 - Adrian Enright (Abbeyfeale/Munster)
    13 - Adam Byrne (UCD/Leinster)
    12 - Sean O'Hagan (London Irish/Exiles)
    11 - Seamus Keating (Dungarvan/Munster)
    10 - Fergal Cleary (Navan/Leinster)
    9 - Killian O'Keeffe (Crosshaven/Munster)
    1 - Peter Dooley (Birr/Leinster)
    2 - Paul O'Donnell (Galwegians/Connacht)
    3 - Jacob Walshe (Garbally/Ballinasloe/Connacht)
    4 - Russell Blair (Ballymoney/Ulster)
    5 - John Madigan (Charleville/Munster)
    6 - Killian Sweeney (Malahide /Leinster)
    7 - Joseph Bercis (Rugby Lions/Exiles)
    8 - Jack O'Donoghue (Waterpark /Munster) (capt)
    Replacements:
    16 - Brian Cunningham (Navan/Leinster)
    17 - Stephen Dalton (Westcombe Park/Ravens Wood Rugby Academy/Exiles)
    18 - Scott Flanagan (Buccaneers/Connacht)
    19 - Luke Connolly (Glamorgan Wanderers /Exiles)
    20 - Francis Taggart (Whitgift School/Exiles)
    21 - Caolin Blade (Monivea/Connacht)
    22 - Jim White (Enniscorthy /Leinster)
    23 - Eoghan O'Reilly (Buccaneers/Connacht)
    IRELAND UNDER-19 Team & Replacements (v France Under-19s, Thursday, April 5, St. Mary's College RFC, kick-off 2pm):
    15 - Darragh Leader (Galwegians RFC/Connacht)
    14 - Max McFarland (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster)
    13 - Tom Farrell (Castleknock College/Leinster)
    12 - Thomas Daly (Carlow RFC/Leinster)
    11 - Rory Scholes (Belfast Harlequins RFC/Ulster)
    10 - Steve Crosbie (Old Belvedere RFC/Leinster)
    9 - Dave Shanahan (Clontarf RFC/Leinster)
    1 - Edward Byrne (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster)
    2 - Bryan Byrne (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster)
    3 - Jamie Dever (Westport RFC/Connacht)
    4 - Ultan Dillane (Tralee RFC/Munster)
    5 - Gavin Thornbury (Blackrock College/Leinster)
    6 - Conor Joyce (Malone RFC/Ulster) (capt)
    7 - Josh van der Flier (UCD RFC/Leinster)
    8 - Ryan Murphy (Dolphin RFC/Munster)
    Replacements:
    16 - John Andrew (Ballymena RFC/Ulster)
    17 - Niall Horan (Crescent College/Munster)
    18 - Christopher Taylor (Malone RFC/Ulster)
    19 - Sean McCarthy (Rockwell College/Munster)
    20 - Donagh Lawler (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
    21 - Barry Digby (Buccaneers RFC/Connacht)
    22 - Harry McNulty (Dublin University RFC/Munster)
    23 - Eoghan Quinn (Castleknock College/Leinster


  • #739
    clubrug
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭clubrug


    Just an observation, and I know we touched on the issue previously, 5 exiles on the 18s, how many on the 19s?
    Am I correct in saying none and if this is the case then does it not indicate again that perhaps we should be nurturing our home talent?


  • #740
    ormond lad
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    clubrug wrote: »
    Just an observation, and I know we touched on the issue previously, 5 exiles on the 18s, how many on the 19s?
    Am I correct in saying none and if this is the case then does it not indicate again that perhaps we should be nurturing our home talent?
    We should look at exiles and shouldnt disregard them. Maybe they didnt want to look for exiles to play with the 19s in just 2 games
    Anyone going to the games tomorrow? Il be up for both games, should be 2 good games


  • #741
    muscleshirt
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    all-ireland u19 semi-final 21st april in ennis shannon/st marys v monivea


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  • #742
    rrpc
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    Ireland U19 game against France half time.

    Ireland 15-0 France. Tries by 15 Darragh Leader (2 mins) and 13 Tom Farrell (31 mins) as well as a penalty from 12 Thomas Daly.


  • #743
    ScareGilly
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    Under 18's Clubs lose 19-13 to France...

    Darragh Leader scores after 2 minutes for the 19's...
    Converted by Thomas Daly. Ireland lead 7-0.
    France concede Penalty from lineout ruck. Thomas Daly converts for 10-0 lead after 14 mins.
    Great lineout steal by Ultan Dillon & pressure 2 meters from France line.
    Ireland score! Pressure leads to Tom Farrell touching down.
    Conversion missed. IRL 15-0 FRA.
    France have shot at goal but miss on stroke of halftime. Ireland go in 15-0 ahead.


    https://twitter.com/#!/irfurugby


  • #744
    ScareGilly
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    FRA put it through several off loads and score a third try to go 17-15 ahead.

    5 minutes to go :(


  • #745
    muscleshirt
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭muscleshirt


    ScareGilly wrote: »
    Under 18's Clubs lose 19-13 to France...

    Darragh Leader scores after 2 minutes for the 19's...
    Converted by Thomas Daly. Ireland lead 7-0.
    France concede Penalty from lineout ruck. Thomas Daly converts for 10-0 lead after 14 mins.
    Great lineout steal by Ultan Dillon & pressure 2 meters from France line.
    Ireland score! Pressure leads to Tom Farrell touching down.
    Conversion missed. IRL 15-0 FRA.
    France have shot at goal but miss on stroke of halftime. Ireland go in 15-0 ahead.


    https://twitter.com/#!/irfurugby[/QUOTE]
    who scored for irl u18?


  • #746
    ScareGilly
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    muscleshirt wrote: »
    who scored for irl u18?

    Tries: Seamus Keating, John Madigan; Pen: Fergal Cleary


  • #747
    specttator
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭specttator


    Yes, i was at the matches today, saw more of the u 18s. thought the Irish team played very well in the first half, playing better rugby than France. The subs brought on by France from half time on seemed to make a big difference,together with the Irish squad tiring, swung the game for the French. Good report on irishrugby.ie.


  • #748
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    specttator wrote: »
    Yes, i was at the matches today, saw more of the u 18s. thought the Irish team played very well in the first half, playing better rugby than France. The subs brought on by France from half time on seemed to make a big difference,together with the Irish squad tiring, swung the game for the French. Good report on irishrugby.ie.
    Good game, Best irish players were jack o d, adrian enright and the outhalf. missed the start but it was game of very good standard.
    didnt stay to see the 19s


  • #749
    rugby_fan
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭rugby_fan


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Good game, Best irish players were jack o d, adrian enright and the outhalf. missed the start but it was game of very good standard.
    didnt stay to see the 19s


    was at the match also, dont think these were Irelands only best player imo


  • #750
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    rugby_fan wrote: »
    was at the match also, dont think these were Irelands only best player imo
    Who else do you think stood out from the rest?


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  • #751
    rugby_fan
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭rugby_fan


    Thought the no 1 Peter Dooley and no5 John madigan were good


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