Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread

Perfect Crime rumoured to have been trialled also.

I've wanted to see Axl do Slither more than anything.

To be honest, it wasn't as good as I'd hoped.

Maybe you had to be there, you lucky, lucky Berliners.

So it appears start of tour rusty Axl was compounded but shocking technical difficulties and the acoustics don't seem to have been that good.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

So Download Festival have released the stage times for all bands next weekend, and Guns will be closing out the Saturday starting at 19:20 and going until 22:50.

Black Stone Cherry as their warm up will be on from 17:20 to 18:30.

Little tidbit, Duff's daughter Grace and her band The Pink Slips open the main stage proceedings at 11 in the morning.

Have I got this wrong but isn't download streamed ? I know even if it is then GNR probably won't be shown.

11am ? That's a tough slot.

fin12 wrote: »

Not as good as the original, sad that Scott died so young.

The problem with GnR now is the surprise and novelty of the reunion is wron off. Partly due to the fact we can view any song played at any city we want to with the click off a button.
Also now they're in for more scrutiny.
And let's face it Axl' s voice is shot.
Unlike Slash and Duff who are techinaly more competent musicians now than they were 25yrs ago. Axl set the bar waaayy to high for himself all those years ago . Tbh I don't think there was another rock singer who left every fibre of their being behind them on the stage every night after a show from 87 to 93. One can argue Jagger, Rod Stewart, Ozzy, Bono even the great Robert Plant are still doing it but there's not one GnR song that is just sung without some form of vocal gymnastics going on. It had to take it's permanent toll some how.
He struggled on the last verse of YCBM and the last verse of coma through out the reunion tour maybe thats why they were dropped for the start of this leg.
In summary I suppose "slither" with 1993 Axl would of been epic beyond reason.
But the 2018 Axl is the equivalent to expecting the Bomber Liston to stick back on the Kerry jersery and win the all Ireland for Kerry this year ....in his prime yes but not now. Because like every legendary footballer now in their mid fifties they're physically fecked after giving 110% in their prime years.
So I'll stick to looking forward to u tube releases of legendary shows of Axl in his prime. I hope the fukher enjoys his retirement at the end of the year he deserves it ...living legend.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I'm more looking forward to Axl with AC/DC & Slash ft. Myles & The Conspirators now. Course 2019 could be problematic for Slash given that Alter Bridge will be starting on their 6th studio album at the beginning of the year..

AXL⚡DC would suit his range now better . Slash will be fine he's so marketable he could sell snow to the Eskimos
It's a sort of worrying that the rock gods today are the same rock gods we had 25 years ago. Just a thought.

It seems axl was way way better than In Berlin. They sang shadow of your love live and axl sounded great on it.

Played for nearly 3 hours at Donington so didn't use all the allotted time given, saw a stream of Slither still needs work :pac:

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Frank plays Easy just fine, funny how he didn't seem to get much scrutiny in the years prior to Slash & Duff coming back.

Funny how GNR weren't within an asses roar of big stadiums between Slash and Duff leaving and re-joining.

I've nothing against Frank though

Fair enough lithium. I not saying he's playing the drum parts right. It's just the speed that I feel is way faster than before.

Also, I've seen Steven Adler from Argentina playing YCBM and his version of the intro is interesting. I assumed matt sorum just played Stevens parts on the album, but it seems not to be the case.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Fair enough lithium. I not saying he's playing the drum parts right. It's just the speed that I feel is way faster than before.

Also, I've seen Steven Adler from Argentina playing YCBM and his version of the intro is interesting. I assumed matt sorum just played Stevens parts on the album, but it seems not to be the case.

Guess we'll agree to disagree on Frank and his drumming speed.

As for YCBM, that's all Sorum, only track Adler contributed to on Illusions was Civil War, but that's an already well established fact.

Lithium, there is no disagreement. I think he plays the drums fine but it's the speed he plays at.

Well, YCBM was written before sorum came on board. It's in the appetite notes and Adler only played on civil war but he wrote the drum parts for a lot of the songs on UYI.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Well I'm sure someone who's played/plays drums would be able to chip in and sort out the Frank & speed at which he plays debate..

I'm well aware of You Could Be Mine being written well before Sorum joined the band, as for Adler, he only contributed to Civil War, as for writing the drum parts for a lot of the Illusions, that's just wrong, according to both albums liner notes.. No mention of Adler bar Civil War, so I don't know where you pulled Adler writing the drum parts for the albums from..

Well it was Steven Adler who says it in his book... Ah right writing this post has just clicked as to why that might not be the best source. Well Sorum recorded the drum parts and Steven Adler will probably claim he wrote them.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Aye, wouldn't exactly take Steven's word for it, even though he had a first hand back seat experience in the band for 5 years..

Think it's in recall Slash's book, that it was Sorum who did all the drum tracks for the Illusions albums, Civil War being the obvious exception.

30 songs in 30 days or something if I recall correctly.

Well to be fair Steven did play drums on some songs that were on the Illusion albums and didn't sound different other than the difference in styles of the two lads. So, it's not wrong to say that Matt recorded what steven had done before him on those songs. The intro that I've seen of YCBM from steven shows that Matt's version is better.

Yeah I think Axl says it in some interview as well and it was either Locomotive or Breakdown where matt couldn't get the drums to sound like he wanted to and with such a short time frame, I recall that it nearly broke him.

I take back EVERYTHING I ever said about me thinking Frank was playing fast. Sweet **** this is playing way too fast.

https://youtu.be/czy8kMyJSkw

Found this peach also

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

A thing of beauty.

Would love to know what Paul Stanlely wanted to change about that song when they were been touted by the record company's.

Wasn't it Paul Stanley that wanted to change the drums on appetite ? So drums probably.

She hits the notes that Axl doesn't now.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6H1LAo5rB8

She hits the notes that Axl doesn't now.

We'll see how well she hits them when she's 56 years old

Itssoeasy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6H1LAo5rB8

She hits the notes that Axl doesn't now.

She's a great singer, but I can't abide that X-Factor'y bollox that goes on like yodeling and using a hand like it's some kind of pitch control