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Luas Red Line C1 extension

  • 31-07-2007 3:11pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭


    Have a question about the red line luas extenstion to the Point?

    When is it planned to be compleated?

    When is it likely to be up and running?

    thanks


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 371 ✭✭Traffic


    Luas Line C1 is due to be completed at the end of 2009. (from RPA website www.rpa.ie)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ich_verschwinde


    Ya i heard 2009 aswell...
    but has there ever been talk of actually interconnecting the two Luas lines? it would make the mode of transport alot more usable for more people... Cant believe it wasnt done originally.. I think the Greens were campaigning a few months ago about actually connecting them but i don't know if its been taken seriously


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Ya i heard 2009 aswell...
    but has there ever been talk of actually interconnecting the two Luas lines? it would make the mode of transport alot more usable for more people... Cant believe it wasnt done originally.. I think the Greens were campaigning a few months ago about actually connecting them but i don't know if its been taken seriously
    It is being done seriously but so far there have been no firm steps towards building it, i.e. date for start of construction etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Slice


    Luas line extension to the Point is already under construction - tracks have already been laid outside the Harbourmaster pub by the IFSC, you can't see it as it's all barriered off but you could if you were on a bike standing up (like me)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    There are line C1 updates here: http://www.rpa.ie/luas/news/news_letters
    Slice wrote:
    Luas line extension to the Point is already under construction - tracks have already been laid outside the Harbourmaster pub by the IFSC, you can't see it as it's all barriered off but you could if you were on a bike standing up (like me)
    Hah! I just stood on the footpath on the bridge. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    More.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Yet more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Will post the balance when I have them labled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭markpb


    It possibly looks nicer and neater now than before they started. Good work RPA :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,113 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    how is it going to take until the end of 2009? Its only about a mile and a half of track and they're already working on it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Thanks for the photos Victor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    loyatemu wrote:
    how is it going to take until the end of 2009? Its only about a mile and a half of track and they're already working on it!
    I've been wondering that myself.
    (live on Mayor St Lwr, and have trouble believing they need 7 months to relocate pipes)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭GreenHell


    Because then they can pat themselves on the back and say they were finished ahead of schedule


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    GreenHell wrote:
    Because then they can pat themselves on the back and say they were finished ahead of schedule

    Exactly there's no point in rushing. They probably know they'll be finished in late 2008 but just want to be able to say "we finished ahead of schedule" unlike CIE which are always cutting themselves too short.

    Any photos of these new tracks that have been layed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Any photos of these new tracks that have been layed?
    Yeah, will post them.

    The 'puddle' in this photo is a pothole, not excavation work.

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=43316&d=1185915200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Victor wrote:
    Yeah, will post them.

    The 'puddle' in this photo is a pothole, not excavation work.

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=43316&d=1185915200

    Is that the photo with the track in it?
    I don't see any. I just see excavation. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭Xylophonic




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭qwertyphobia


    thanks folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Wow! Some really great work going on down there. RPA always know how to make me smile :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭BendiBus


    Any mention of how they'll deal operationally with the installation of the triangular crossing at Connolly? They'll need to do a bit of digging & take Connolly out of service for a while. For how long? Where is the first crossover from Connolly? Will Luas be able to continue serving Busaras during this time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    BendiBus wrote:
    Any mention of how they'll deal operationally with the installation of the triangular crossing at Connolly? They'll need to do a bit of digging & take Connolly out of service for a while. For how long? Where is the first crossover from Connolly? Will Luas be able to continue serving Busaras during this time?

    AFAIK the first crossover from Connolly is on Abbey st outside the VHI office
    so they could just use Busaras as a 2 platform terminus (same as they currently use Connolly), and take Connolly out of commission for a while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭MarkoP11


    Abbey Street will be the terminus, Busaras can't be used as a terminus station for several reasons

    Inbound tram would leave Abbey Street proceed past VHI then reverse over the crossover at VHI to the outbound platform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    So Busáras will be out of commission for a few weeks/months as well as connolly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭MarkoP11


    For that you will need to ask the RPA

    Based on the track, signalling and overhead wire arrangements Busaras will have to close while the lines are joined up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Potentially, if they use the entire construction period to work on the delta junction, a tiny piece at a time, they can then complete the works during the week of Christmas / New Year (2007+2008) when they have very few passengers and a shut down won't have huch effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    I still don't see why they don't have every second train going to either Connolly or The Point. This whole delta is going to be confusing.
    What way is the Abbey St. Terminus going to work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    I still don't see why they don't have every second train going to either Connolly or The Point. This whole delta is going to be confusing.
    What way is the Abbey St. Terminus going to work?


    there has been no timetable made available yet.

    posts by posters like this revel the poster for a scandalous fool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Play nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭Xylophonic


    What way is the Abbey St. Terminus going to work?

    Answer:
    MarkoP11 wrote:
    Inbound tram would leave Abbey Street proceed past VHI then reverse over the crossover at VHI to the outbound platform.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Xylophonic wrote:
    Looks like the guys have pitched a tent for the night :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    I had a hand in organising permits for this to happen just a few weeks ago. THey're going to be removing all of the parking bays on Mayor Street, which will probably piss-off a lot of people that regularly park there. The LUAS is a great success though but each evening I use it I feel like a sardine in a tin-can.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    I still don't see why they don't have every second train going to either Connolly or The Point. This whole delta is going to be confusing.
    That would provide only half the number of services to the Point that the rest of the line gets. The delta junction makes it less, rather than more, confusing.
    Kevster wrote:
    The LUAS is a great success though but each evening I use it I feel like a sardine in a tin-can.
    Agreed, particularly central Red Line - unusable most of the time. Have moved out of its catchment now but took it from Smithfield to Abbey on a Sunday a week ago - hadn't been on it in ages, and was appalled to get a 30 metre tram. The upgrade to 40m carriages seems to be taking an interminable length of time to complete.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    Well, it certainly needs the longer trams... Each evening I invariably get squashed-up beside some smelly person or am put in an uncomfortable position whereby my face is not but 1cm from the person in front of me... ...

    ... ...ok, I have exaggerated but still! :)

    kevin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    spacetweek wrote:
    Agreed, particularly central Red Line - unusable most of the time.
    An irony. It can't be used, because it is being used. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭gjim


    Dunno why they didn't just ditch the Connolly stop and link Connolly to Busaras and the Luas via a subway maybe with a travellator. Particularly if it started at the DART platforms, this would probably be easier and quicker for the majority of passengers as well as providing integration between Busaras and Connolly for non-Luas users. Amiens St. isn't the easiest to navigate with luggage. The Busaras and Connolly stops are only about 150m apart anyway and having a straight run-through from Store St. to Mayor St. would be operationally simpler and quicker - saving journey time and d*cking about with the driver having to switch ends.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    gjim wrote:
    Dunno why they didn't just ditch the Connolly stop and link Connolly to Busaras and the Luas via a subway maybe with a travellator. Particularly if it started at the DART platforms, this would probably be easier and quicker for the majority of passengers as well as providing integration between Busaras and Connolly for non-Luas users. Amiens St. isn't the easiest to navigate with luggage. The Busaras and Connolly stops are only about 150m apart anyway and having a straight run-through from Store St. to Mayor St. would be operationally simpler and quicker - saving journey time and d*cking about with the driver having to switch ends.
    Good point but there is no room for the portals for such an arrangement at Busaras Luas Stop and in any case Connolly is enough of a primary destination that a dedicated stop is justifiable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I was down there the other day. I wonder if they will finish the north side of the street and do service diversions (I'm not sure if there will be much, all the buildings on that side of the street has been demolished) on the south side and return to do road finsihes and track or will they finish off the northside of the street first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Lots of the safety signage is being ignored by some traffic that is contra-flowing on the one way street, following the old directional signage.

    The centre of Geoges Dock Bridge is open to pedestrians and cyclists, with work being done to finish off the footpaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,493 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    http://www.rpa.ie/?id=359
    Luas Line C1 Morning Open Forums
    National College of Ireland - IFSC, Docklands, Dublin 1.

    Thursday, September 13th 2007 - 0730hrs - 0900hrs
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