Great Western Greenway (Newport to Mulranny)

yosemite_sam · 30-05-2011 3:18pm

dec25532 wrote: »

nuac, you are so defensive it is quite fascinating. In Clare last year we got bikes for €8 a day and did Doolin and the cliffs, it was grand. In Killarney it is €10 a day but Clew Bay bikes seem to have it all on their own and charge €12. Take a couple and two kids, that is nearly €50. Am only sayin'

Clew Bay bikes, he would have to pay 400 euro a week rent I pay 4000 euro a year rates to MCC he would pay a similar. Lets say he has three staff on the MW 36 euro an hour, run a van for picking up the bikes. Insurance in case someone falls off one of his bikes. Can you now begrudge him getting 12 euro a day off of someone like you.

yop · 30-05-2011 4:37pm

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Westport is a great town but very dear to live in, my brother built a house there and it cost him 350,000 euro. I think it is well worth supporting Irish business and people should pay up and not moan.

350k to build a house!!!! :eek:

What was it, Knockranny House!

We build for 126k and it was 2100 sq ft!, must be some castle he built

yosemite_sam · 30-05-2011 4:44pm

yop wrote: »

350k to build a house!!!! :eek:

What was it, Knockranny House!

We build for 126k and it was 2100 sq ft!, must be some castle he built

Some house alright, that does include the site cost of course. Sweeping oak staircase, bespoke handmade kitchen a real palace. You are not far away with the adress either

yop · 30-05-2011 5:01pm

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Some house alright, that does include the site cost of course. Sweeping oak staircase, bespoke handmade kitchen a real palace. You are not far away with the adress either

Ah, I was wondering. Sites were nuts when we were building 7 years ago, 250k for 1/2 acre site where I am from originally.

dec25532 · 01-06-2011 12:51am

yop wrote: »

He is a jealous Galway man. Nuff said.

If you don't like it, stay away, there are plenty more visitors to Westport to make up for the few "grudge" euros you pay.

Childish comment. But anyway I have booked my week in Mayo at the end of June, three days in Westport and three in Mulranney with bikes attached to the back of the car. Can't wait to get on the Greenway. Have been saving the few euro over the past couple months to be prepared for the Westport restaurants whose prices may have mellowed since I was there in January. We live in hope.
Ye could do a whip around in advance of my arrival !!!!

yop · 01-06-2011 2:00pm

dec25532 wrote: »

Childish comment. But anyway I have booked my week in Mayo at the end of June, three days in Westport and three in Mulranney with bikes attached to the back of the car. Can't wait to get on the Greenway. Have been saving the few euro over the past couple months to be prepared for the Westport restaurants whose prices may have mellowed since I was there in January. We live in hope.
Ye could do a whip around in advance of my arrival !!!!

We will throw you a few euro when you are up Dec

I think you will find prices are still the same, so make sure you bring the money box

nuac · 01-06-2011 9:38pm

Hope you enjoy your visit here Dec255. Enjoy, chill out

dec25532 · 02-06-2011 12:37am

yop wrote: »

I think you will find prices are still the same, so make sure you bring the money box

Dammit, better bring the flask of tea as well.

dec25532 · 02-06-2011 12:50am

nuac wrote: »

Hope you enjoy your visit here Dec255. Enjoy, chill out

Thanks nuac, will do. But in my spare time I will do a quick analysis of restaurant scene in Westport and give a fair assessment of why I believe it is more expensive than most towns of its size . . . despite the assertion (by oscar bravo) that it costs more to provide a service in Westport than other tourist destinations in Ireland.

oscarBravo · 04-06-2011 12:09am

dec25532 wrote: »

...despite the assertion (by oscar bravo) that it costs more to provide a service in Westport than other tourist destinations in Ireland.

Whoah, back up. You've claimed - with little in the way of supporting evidence - that you're being ripped off by businesses in Westport. I've advanced an alternative hypothesis, which is that Westport prices are higher because the cost of doing business in Westport may be higher than elsewhere.

Now, as someone who owns a business in Mayo and lives in Westport, it's possible that I know of what I speak. But, leaving that aside, if every business in Westport is making extraordinary profits (which is the logical corollary to the accusation of ripping customer off) then it's clearly an attractive place to do business, and as such there should be a queue of entrepreneurs lining up for a slice of the lucrative Westport tourist-gouging action.

My understanding of the laws of supply and demand, coupled with the fact that you seem prepared to repeatedly spend money in Westport but unwilling to set up in competition with the robber barons who are ripping you off hand over fist, lead me inexorably to my own personal conclusions, which others are free to arrive at independently.

MayoForSam · 06-06-2011 12:45am

OK, so we went on a wee family outing today on the Greenway so I though I'd share our experiences.

Weather wasn't fantastic but it remained mostly dry throughout with the odd very light shower - this definitely helped.

Brought 2 bikes on the back of the car, hired another one in Newport - the lad in the hire shop was very friendly and helpful.

Headed off in the direction of Mullaranny, the cycle path is well signposted now a few hundred metres from the edge of Newport. The initial way follows the old railway line and the elevated views were great. The crossing over the old 7-arches bridge is especially picturesque. The first half of the journey is quite sheltered along wooded paths and through fields with the local livestock in full view. As you progress along the way, the vista begins to open up. The second half of the journey is more exposed over higher ground with little in the way of shelter. Quite a steep ascent in places. Stunning views over Clew Bay and Clare Island. It took us 2 and a half hours to get to Mullaranny, but that included a leisurely picnic lunch around the halfway mark. Brought the bike back to the depot at the back of the hotel, very handy in being able to drop the bike here and not have to return it to Newport.

Overall, a fantastic experience and credit to Mayo CoCo and whoever has been responsible in driving this project forward. Now if only the same logic could be applied to some other disused (and never to see a train running again) rail lines in the west of Ireland......

Plenty of folks out cycling and walking, all shapes, sizes and ages. I would have one minor criticism in that there should be a few more picnic tables and benches and perhaps the odd covered shelter along the route in the event of inclement weather.

fifilarue · 07-06-2011 12:12pm

I travelled up to Mayo with a couple of friends yesterday and walked this route. It was an absolutely brilliant day out, even though we got caught in a couple of fairly heavy showers in the afternoon. We honestly couldn't get over it. It was clean, safe, well-signposted and the views when the sun came out were amazing. Fair play to all involved, especially the landowners, as it's definitely a success from a walkers point of view (am also a member of a walking club and we'll be putting it on our schedule). The only criticism (if I could call it that) is that with my hood up, I couldn't hear the bikes coming up behind me, so maybe the hire place could invest in a few bells

:D

dec25532 · 10-06-2011 2:06am

oscarBravo wrote: »

I've advanced an alternative hypothesis, which is that Westport prices are higher because the cost of doing business in Westport may be higher than elsewhere.QUOTE]

Christ this is like deja vu. First you admit that Westport prices are higher and then suggest that this is because the cost of doing business in Westport is higher than anywhere else. So you are saying that it is cheaper to operate a business in Dublin or Galway, where rents are still incredibly high, than in Westport. Ah c'mon. Give us some credit. Think you are just circling the wagons.

oscarBravo · 10-06-2011 10:08am

dec25532 wrote: »

First you admit that Westport prices are higher...

Higher than what? I've paid much, much, much more for food elsewhere than I have in Westport. You've complained that you have paid more for food in Westport than in that mecca for tourists, Sligo. Why do you keep coming back to Westport? Why not holiday in Sligo? Why isn't Sligo a much more popular tourist destination than Westport? Why isn't Termonfeckin or Portarlington a more popular tourist destination than Westport?

...and then suggest that this is because the cost of doing business in Westport is higher than anywhere else.

I don't remember suggesting that the cost of doing business in Westport is higher than in Tokyo. If you're going to argue with me by misquoting me, save yourself the trouble.

So you are saying that it is cheaper to operate a business in Dublin or Galway, where rents are still incredibly high, than in Westport.

I don't recall saying that. I'm trying to get you to contemplate the possibility that there are other explanations for the cost of a main course being marginally higher in Westport than Sligo, or for the price of bike rental being higher in Westport than in the Algarve, than the one-dimensional caricature of fat-cat Westport capitalists ripping you off.

Do you know what it costs to do business in Westport? Have you ever run a business in Westport? Have you ever run a business? Why do you keep avoiding the question of why you don't run a business in Westport, since - by your own logic - it's a failsafe path to extraordinary profits?

I live in Westport. It costs me more to live in Westport than it would in (say) Ballinrobe. Why do I continue to live in Westport? Because I like it here. It's a cost-benefit analysis. People ask me how I like living here, and I tell them I enjoy it - I don't automatically qualify that remark every single time with "but Jaysus, the cost of living's a biatch." If I didn't think it was worth it, I'd live somewhere else.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who wonders, every time you complain about high prices in Westport, why you keep coming back.

kippy · 05-07-2011 9:36pm

Lads, just a quick query, is the greenway full operational now from Westport to Achill or are there still parts of it under construction?

hollypink · 05-07-2011 10:57pm

kippy wrote: »

Lads, just a quick query, is the greenway full operational now from Westport to Achill or are there still parts of it under construction?

Official opening is supposed to be in late July but I saw the following posted in mid-June on facebook and people have been posting photos of the Mulranny - Achill section:

Great Western Greenway (Newport - Mulranny) Cycling & Walking Trail
The Greenway will be safe for cycling between Westport and Achill on Friday next. We are currently completing some small works. The official opening will be in late July - details will be posted closer to the time. Please note that there a... 2km section of the Greenway between Newport and Westport (close to Newport Town) which will be completed later this Autumn under a road improvement contract. There is also a short section ON ROAD (700m) between Achill and Mulranny. ENJOY!See more
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afatbollix · 07-07-2011 12:36am

I went back a few weeks ago from London and borrowed my neighbors bike to have a go on the track.

I can do about 30-40 miles in London no problem so guessed the 45 miles from Westport to Achill could be done.

Unless you start down at the quay it is hard to find the start as its a old out of the way route. Even tho Im from the area I still had to visit the tourist office for info.

So off I went it is off road out of Westport on the old railway line it is tree lined along the track for the first few miles. Then you are beside the road, you have to cycle through some gates and roads on this part of the route.

All very easy so far no up hills and the majority of it down hill. Then you cross the road at Killmeena, new track has been laid and there is a few bridges that you have to slow down for as they are very humped.

About 1.5 mils from Newport the track stops. It looks like a farmer has said no as it goes to his boundary and then stops. The road is ok as it wasent that busy.

I stopped in Newport for a few minutes before heading off again. There is no track through the town so you have to stay on the road be careful of parked cars coming out of spaces its a bit of a free for all.

Out of the town you join the Newport to Mullranny part of the track. The first few miles are nice and scenic.

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After the half way point its a bit open though the bogs and after a small climb you cycle into Mullranny down hill. On a windy day you will find it hard.

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You can cycle right through Mullranny with out joining the main road the track is all finished through the village ( I did stop tho for more water in the local shop)

Now for the easy part the Mullranny to Achill part is about 90% completed. It is mostly all flat or downhill even tho I was 40K into the cycle I was getting my highest KPH average on this part of it.

It does end abruptly as a local German Women wont give over the land or so a local I talked to told me. You have to finish the last few miles on the main road.

In total it took me 2:15 to do Westport to Achill its just under 50Km long it was the fastest cycle Ive ever done.. So well pleased.
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LeoB · 10-07-2011 1:56am

Done the Newport to Mulranny section during the week and in a word EXCELLENT.

I really enjoyed the leisurley spin with kids and had a nice little pit stop along the way.There is some beautiful scenary along the way.
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Its an excellent route but I would make 1 or 2 changes.

Just after picture #1 you have to cross the road and this judging by what I saw driving (or how they drive) could be dangerous. So perhaps a set of flashing warning lights...........

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The weather was fair when we done the trip but it did get quite windy near the end. We had our snack with us but there was not enough benchs along the route

There is quite a steep winding climb in the second half and this was the only spot that I felt needs a bit of work as the surface was not great.

At the end of this leg there should be a gate to make cyclists dismount. There is a sign in Irish and English but unfortunatley the french lad I saw had little or none of either and nearly had what could have been a nasty fall.

I would highly recommend this as a great way to spend a few hours. Well done to all who have develped this and I hope it continues to grow. As for the German lady who wont allow the greenway through her land, can Mayo C.C not put C.P.O on here ground? In the interest of the public having a healthy lifestyle:)

LeoB · 10-07-2011 2:10am

Some of the stunning views along the Greenway

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Oh a big thanks to J.P O'Halloran in Clew Bay cycle hire who made a few adjustments to my daughters bike. Very helpful and friendly in the Newport shop.

mel.b · 24-07-2011 10:15pm

Road the greenway from Newport to Mulranny and back yesterday as part of a hen's weekend. Other than a teenage boy nearly crashing into me as he wasn't watching where he was going as he was cycling two abreast it was a great ride - so peaceful and scenic. I really hope more of these do open up throughout the country. There were loads and loads of people out doing it and I can see how the path would have really helped tourism and businesses in newport and mulranny.

I felt the track, or more accurately the weeds alongside the path on the first couple of Km's outside of Newport could do with some attention. It was difficult to ride two abreast there as it was getting quite overgrown with some big sharp weeds.

Also that steep little section before Mulranny where it looks like part of the track was washed away in a flood or something. I think they could really do with asphalting that section as I think maintenance there will be an ongoing issue othewise.

Looking forward to heading back and doing the whole Westport - Achill trip

Sibhs · 27-07-2011 6:23pm

Hi I'm going to cycle the greenway this weekend. Starting in Newport, I'm not that familiar with the area so I was wondering is it easy to get parking and where is the best place to park....oh and I'm not good at parallel parking

snailsong · 27-07-2011 9:25pm

Sibhs, The Westport-Newport section of the greenway will be opened by the Taoiseach this friday at 2pm. He will then lead a cycle from Westport to achill, 42km. If your down on friday maybe you'd like to go along. If you wish to start from Newport parking should be no problem. Its a small friendly town, no parking charges as far as I know. There's even a few 'perpendicular' spaces on the main street iirc. Anyone will point you in the direction of the greenway. Hope you enjoy it and welcome to Mayo.

GotBainne? · 28-07-2011 6:18pm

Hi,
I heard that the GreEnway (the bicycle route on the old Westport-Achill railway line) is being opened officially tomorrow. Does anyone know the schedule? In particular where will the celebrations be happening in Achill and at what time?

Cheers,
GB.

yop · 28-07-2011 8:02pm

No need for a new thread on this, keep it in the one thread.

nuac · 29-07-2011 9:09am

Re Greenway

Ribbon being cut at Attireesh westport by Enda Kenny and Ml Ring at 2 today. Don't know of any arrangements for Achill

what_traffic · 26-08-2011 10:34am

Piece in the Connaught Tribune/Galway City Tribune about the Great Western Greenway.
http://www.galwaynews.ie/21174-wheeling-out-new-direction-cycling-west

InkDispatch · 31-08-2011 5:11pm

what_traffic wrote: »

Piece in the Connaught Tribune/Galway City Tribune about the Great Western Greenway.
http://www.galwaynews.ie/21174-wheeling-out-new-direction-cycling-west

I would love to cycle this track but I have a road bike with pretty thin tyres. Would I be able to use this cylce path or would I need a mountain bike?

LeoB · 31-08-2011 5:44pm

InkDispatch You will have no problem. I done it on my bike which is a road bike and it was fine. Only 1 dodgy part before Mulranny coming from Newport where the ground is uneven. Its a superb day out.

dec25532 · 31-08-2011 10:39pm

Did it four weeks ago and it was great. Lot of people use their own 'hybrid' bikes which are a cross between a racer and a mountain bike i think and they work fine. Havent done the Westport stage or the Achill one but I'm told that there is some on-road cycling to be done but don't know how much at either end. Hopefully it will be all off-road at some stage because it is the envy of the whole country.

oscarBravo · 02-09-2011 12:02pm

There was a large notice in this week's Mayo News announcing major road upgrades on the N59. Included in those works are an under- and overpass to replace the two at-grade crossings of the N59 by the Greenway, and works to move all the remaining on-road sections off-road.

So, yay.

Mickeroo · 06-09-2011 1:06am

oscarBravo wrote: »

There was a large notice in this week's Mayo News announcing major road upgrades on the N59. Included in those works are an under- and overpass to replace the two at-grade crossings of the N59 by the Greenway, and works to move all the remaining on-road sections off-road.

So, yay.

That's good to hear. The on-road stretch leaving Newport heading towards Westport is particularly dangerous I think.

what_traffic · 06-09-2011 12:20pm

Should the title of this thread now be changed from
"Great Western Greenway (Newport to Mulranny)" to "Great Western Greenway (Westport to Achill Sound)" ??

Mickeroo · 10-02-2012 10:29am

fotografix wrote: »

Hi, cycled this last week between newport and mulranny. This seems to be the most scenic part of the greenway. They have started work to make the greenway offroad outside newport on the way to westport, but the newport-westport stretch is mainly just track beside the road, the stretch between newport and mulranny goes away from the road the most, peace and quiet! We rented bikes in Newport, from greenway bicycle hire, would recommend these guys, local and will pick you up if your gettin puffed out as i did on the way back! Great work by all involved in this greenway project...

The bit just after mulranny heading towards achill is the most spectacular imo

Patthecat · 11-02-2012 10:55pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

fotografix wrote: »

Hi, cycled this last week between newport and mulranny. This seems to be the most scenic part of the greenway. They have started work to make the greenway offroad outside newport on the way to westport, but the newport-westport stretch is mainly just track beside the road, the stretch between newport and mulranny goes away from the road the most, peace and quiet! We rented bikes in Newport, from greenway bicycle hire, would recommend these guys, local and will pick you up if your gettin puffed out as i did on the way back! Great work by all involved in this greenway project...

The bit just after mulranny heading towards achill is the most spectacular imo

How long did it take you to get from Newport to mulrany?
We are thinking about doing it with trailer for children.
Are there many hills?
What facilities are in mulrany ie coffee shop, kids activities?

nuac · 12-02-2012 1:09pm

Took me 3 hours - stopping to admire the view many times.

apart from access onto and from road, no real hills.

excellent re freshment available Newport, Tiernaur ( Nevins ) Mulranny ( Hotel, and various pubs )

Gun_Slinger · 22-02-2012 2:58pm

Good article in the Times complimenting the landowners on their part in the project.

dec25532 · 24-02-2012 1:20am

Westport to Newport is rubbish. Too many stops and having to cycle the last couple of miles to Newport on a narrow stretch along the main road is not great by any means. Wouldn't be inclined to do it again.

oscarBravo · 24-02-2012 10:19am

dec25532 wrote: »

Westport to Newport is rubbish. Too many stops and having to cycle the last couple of miles to Newport on a narrow stretch along the main road is not great by any means. Wouldn't be inclined to do it again.

The choice was to leave it that way on a temporary basis in order to have a Greenway on that route at all, or to open most of the Greenway but leave 2km on the road for a year or so until the road upgrades can happen, along with major Greenway upgrades including grade-separated road crossings.

Or would it have been better to leave cyclists on the N59 for the entire length of the Westport-Newport stretch?

nuac · 24-02-2012 10:28am

I agree with Oscar Bravo.

The disused railway line had been sold to adjoining landowners c 1940.

the Council had to deal with the situation as they found it

oscarBravo · 25-02-2012 5:04pm

Speaking of cyclists on the N59, what is with cyclists who are still using the narrow main road when there's a perfectly good Greenway right beside it?

Quid pro quo, people. We build you your own road; get the hell off ours!

Defiler Of The Coffin · 25-02-2012 9:03pm

Myself and a few friends will be cycling the greenway in June, cannot wait!

Patthecat · 25-02-2012 9:20pm

Just booked package today. 2 nights b&b + 1 evening meal for 2 adults+ 2 kids €279. This includes 1 day bike hire on the Greenway cycle track with packed lunch. Also free admission to a kids adventure park. The hotel is the Harlequin in Castlebar. Can't wait.

pauliewallie · 25-06-2014 2:51pm

anyone do this recently? how long would it take to cycle the full length westport to achill sound if you were just to put the head down and go for it?
male, mid thirties, good fitness level, decent bike.

LeoB · 25-06-2014 4:00pm

happyoutscan wrote: »

1. Where were you cycling, on the road or on the footpath? There is a wide footpath that runs from the petrol station (and beforehand) the 1km out to the beginning of the Greenway so cyclists do not need to be on the road at all.
2. Agreed, although the crossing is at a straight stretch of road with drivers being able to see cyclists crossing from both sides and vice versa.
3. Better signing perhaps although I have no idea how anyone could get lost on the route, it is pretty obvious that the Greenway runs parallel to the main road.
4. Agreed, as long as it was sympathetic to the surrounding landscape/greenway.
5. No way to enforce this, in any event I would be against a charge even though it wouldn't bother me paying it.
6. Dangers??? There is one place where you have to cross the main road and one hill, that's about the only 'dangers' I can come up with. You make it out to be riddled with danger, totally over the top imo.
7. Perhaps, although I've never found it difficult to find the place, even when pulling a couple kids in a kiddie trailer.

Just reading back over this thread as I'm thinking of going back again.

I would disagree with you on the 2 point I have highlighted above.

Footpaths are not for bikes and the sign-age was woeful. No warning to motorists or speed ramps to slow cars down

IIRC the straight stretch of road was like a raceway with cars speeding. Again some warning signs/speed controls from 500mtrs either side would be welcome.

That aside I still think it is a terrific amenity for families to use and could not think of a better way to spend a day. Just wish more councils would follow suit

afatbollix · 01-07-2014 8:50pm

pauliewallie wrote: »

anyone do this recently? how long would it take to cycle the full length westport to achill sound if you were just to put the head down and go for it?
male, mid thirties, good fitness level, decent bike.

I did it in 1 hour 20 when I did it.

From Mullranny to Acill is flat and you can get up to some serious speed on it.

finbarrk · 28-09-2014 12:30am

Thinking of doing this soon. Haven't much cycling done. Would it be easier to go from Achill to Westport or vice versa?. Or is it much the same either way?

Gun_Slinger · 29-09-2014 2:07pm

finbarrk wrote: »

Thinking of doing this soon. Haven't much cycling done. Would it be easier to go from Achill to Westport or vice versa?. Or is it much the same either way?

Prevailing winds are south westerly so most of the time going from Achill to Westport you would have the wind at your back. I'd check the weather the night before and decide then.
Plus, the best part of the greenway is Achill->Newport so if you're tired and cant finish it you will have the best part done!

finbarrk · 30-09-2014 12:26pm

Gun_Slinger wrote: »

Prevailing winds are south westerly so most of the time going from Achill to Westport you would have the wind at your back. I'd check the weather the night before and decide then.
Plus, the best part of the greenway is Achill->Newport so if you're tired and cant finish it you will have the best part done!

Lovely. thanks.

Spanish Eyes · 02-07-2015 8:10pm

Are there any pit stops (ahem, toilets/cafe/pub) on the Achill to Mulranny stretch please?

We are walking that section soon, and it would be a long time to walk without going to the loo!

Or alternatively, how is the hedging, could a lady nip behind that if caught short!

I am really looking forward to it. The whole thing looks great. Well done Mayo.

Hope I am not mown down by Giro D'Italia wannabes whilst walking though!

irishgeo · 03-07-2015 5:28pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Are there any pit stops (ahem, toilets/cafe/pub) on the Achill to Mulranny stretch please?

We are walking that section soon, and it would be a long time to walk without going to the loo!

Or alternatively, how is the hedging, could a lady nip behind that if caught short!

I am really looking forward to it. The whole thing looks great. Well done Mayo.

Hope I am not mown down by Giro D'Italia wannabes whilst walking though!

Certain I seen a portable loo on it the last time I was on it on that stretch but not certain.

Great Western Greenway (Newport to Mulranny)

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