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Article in Daily Mail which is "not making excuses" for bloody sunday. What a rag...

  • 18-06-2010 3:34pm
    #1
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    What an utterly ****e anti Irish paper. I can't believe they try to flog an Irish version of that crap here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286909/No-excuses-forget-context-Bloody-Sunday.html
    But what is undeniable (apart from the fact that it made some lawyers very rich) is that Northern Ireland today is more peaceful than it's been for decades. For this, the overwhelming glory must go to the police and 250,000 soldiers who served there, of whom all but a handful showed almost superhuman restraint. As we illustrate on our front page, these men, and their sons and grandsons who are dying now in Afghanistan, are the true face of the British Army. And nothing can diminish the debt we owe them....

    ....But such protests are fruitless. The bitter truth is that the Saville Inquiry was set up (and how fortuitous for Tony Blair that he's not around to reap what he has sown) as just one of a series of squalid moral compromises in the name of the peace process.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286909/No-excuses-forget-context-Bloody-Sunday.html#ixzz0rDPczmi0

    So basically what they are saying is that the Saville report is bull**** just to appease the Catholics.


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  • #2
    TheBlock
    Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭TheBlock


    samsemtex wrote: »
    What an utterly ****e anti Irish paper. I can't believe they try to flog an Irish version of that crap here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286909/No-excuses-forget-context-Bloody-Sunday.html



    So basically what they are saying is that the Saville report is bull**** just to appease the Catholics.

    FFS Man it is the mail what did you expect?


  • #3
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    The mail is a tabloid rag with delusions of grandeur. The Indo group in this country is pretty much the same.


  • #4
    JIZZLORD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭JIZZLORD


    Ah. The Daily Mail, that bastion of journalistic integrity....


  • #5
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    I wouldn't light the fire with a copy of the Daily Mail.


  • #6
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Daily mail headline generator, its good for sh1ts and giggles

    http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/


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  • #7
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    squalid moral compromises
    The investigation into the murder of unarmed civilians by British troops... a squalid moral compromise...?

    I post on some UK fora, and the amount of British people essentially saying "Ah, it's all in the past, let byegones be byegones, no point in charging anyone, put it behind us" is making me quite uncomfortable to be honest.


  • #8
    baltimore sun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭baltimore sun


    I'm with PeterIanStaker here

    What a pile of crap, at least we can take some comfort in the fact that the Irish Daily Mail is only aimed at housewives and sure them lot are already a bunch of nazis so the paper's only preaching to the choir

    The Indo is close behind them, a really god-awful abortion of a newspaper too


  • #9
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    samsemtex wrote: »
    What an utterly ****e anti Irish paper. I can't believe they try to flog an Irish version of that crap here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286909/No-excuses-forget-context-Bloody-Sunday.html



    So basically what they are saying is that the Saville report is bull**** just to appease the Catholics.

    Next - "Ku Klux Klan in Racist Cross Burning Shock!!!!"


  • #10
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Grand bit of readin in it anyhow


  • #11
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,128 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Only to be expected from the Daily Bile, written by idiots for morons..


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  • #12
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Not defending it or anything, but it's just an opinion piece. We have enough 'journalists' in this country which use outrage as a means of peddaling their warez.. the biggest of which has written many anti-Irish articles in the Indo


  • #13
    Trashbat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭Trashbat


    So what they're saying is basically: "We don't hate the Irish, BUT......"

    whay am i not surprised by that rag :rolleyes:


  • #14
    Acacia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    For 30 minutes, in the fear and confusion of that fateful afternoon in 1972, Paratroopers policing an illegal march lost their discipline and self-control.

    Hmmm, if the Daily Fail are so keen to explain the context of the situation you think they would have high-lighted the context surrounding the ''illegal'' march i.e. to get Civil Rights for Catholics which so grossly denied to them in the North. :rolleyes:

    That article is beyond insulting for the victims' families but what more would you expect from that rag...


  • #15
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Not defending it or anything, but it's just an opinion piece. We have enough 'journalists' in this country which use outrage as a means of peddaling their warez.. the biggest of which has written many anti-Irish articles in the Indo

    Including at least two this week. Lets refer to him as only K.M.


  • #16
    rockmongrel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭rockmongrel


    What a ****ing rag.
    True, many may question the reliability of evidence given to an inquiry that began more than a quarter of a century after the events it examined - and God alone knows why Lord Saville took 12 staggering years to prepare his report.

    Answers the question in the same bloody sentence.


  • #17
    Thomas828
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    This is no surprise to me. The Daily Fail has always been a right-wing rag, the mouthpiece of the Monday Club. And it's brimming with hostility towards anybody who doesn't agree with them - and that's something like seven eighths of the UK and 95 percent of the world.


  • #18
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Yeah? The Daily Mail is the new Hitler!


    /Godwins Law.

    /Necessary trolling to anti-troll the inevitable Daily Mail trolling that will troll.....occur.


  • #19
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    "superhuman resistance" -- *shiver* -- just has too much of the KCNA's style of reporting for me.


  • #20
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    I wouldn't light the fire with a copy of the Daily Mail.


    You like it that much??


  • #21
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The Daily Mail winds up its intended targets. Again.


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  • #22
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    With the Daily Mails nobody gets out alive and everybodys guilty /innocent .

    Todays uk edition page 10 has ''Did Martin McGuinness fire a machine gun in those lost minutes on bloody sunday ? ''

    Fcuk me , I dont recall any soldiers being shot dead that day on the bogside but 13 civillians were :rolleyes:


  • #23
    Izabella Wonderful Rocker
    Posts: 0 ✭ Izabella Wonderful Rocker


    It's so ridiculous you can't do anything but laugh. I love how the irony is just totally lost on them, they're saying NI is more peaceful than ever because of the work of the British army - well perhaps if they hadn't taken over the place, there wouldn't have been any Troubles! So many British people talk about Northern Ireland as if it had absolutely nothing to do with them. My mum is English and she is so embarrassed by this ridiculous 'poor us' carry on.


  • #24
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    I have sent them emails expressing how distasteful i find that article considering the legal battle the families had to endure to clear the deads names! :(:(


  • #25
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    Daily mail headline generator, its good for sh1ts and giggles

    http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/

    "COULD CHAVS GIVE MIDDLE BRITAIN DIABETES?"

    Win.


  • #26
    moonpurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    anti irish?

    they have burnt the ass off sean fitzpatrick, printing his legal threat letters, laughing in his face and daring him to take them to court

    they are up there with wolf tone for that alone

    their article opens with
    "Bloody Sunday was a shameful day in the proud history of the British Army."

    it was a day of shame and they reaped what they sowed, but remember we would all be speaking german only for the brave US, russian and UK soldiers of 1942

    but hey the op is called samsemtex
    semtex the east european plastic explosive crammed into surgical tubing and wrapped around fertilizer and icing sugar, that triggered the explosion that vaporised a little boy in omagh one afternoon along with many others

    now that was anti Irish


  • #27
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    moonpurple wrote: »
    anti irish?

    they have burnt the ass off sean fitzpatrick, printing his legal threat letters, laughing in his face and daring him to take them to court

    they are up there with wolf tone for that alone

    their article opens with
    "Bloody Sunday was a shameful day in the proud history of the British Army."

    it was a day of shame and they reaped what they sowed, but remember we would all be speaking german only for the brave US, russian and UK soldiers of 1942

    but hey the op is called samsemtex
    semtex the east european plastic explosive crammed into surgical tubing and wrapped around fertilizer and icing sugar, that triggered the explosion that vaporised a little boy in omagh one afternoon along with many others

    now that was anti Irish

    Oh do **** off. what the hell has my username to do with anything? Am I to assume any user with the word dynamite (eg dynamitedave) in his name has a penchant for mining?


  • #28
    moonpurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    samsemtex wrote: »
    Oh do **** off. what the hell has my username to do with anything? Am I to assume any user with the word dynamite in his name has a penchant for mining?

    anti irish?

    they have burnt the ass off sean fitzpatrick, printing his legal threat letters, laughing in his face and daring him to take them to court

    they are up there with wolf tone for that alone

    their article opens with
    "Bloody Sunday was a shameful day in the proud history of the British Army."

    it was a day of shame and they reaped what they sowed, but remember we would all be speaking german only for the brave US, russian and UK soldiers of 1942

    but hey the op is called samsemtex
    semtex the east european plastic explosive crammed into surgical tubing and wrapped around fertilizer and icing sugar, that triggered the explosion that vaporised a little boy in omagh one afternoon along with many others

    now that was anti Irish


  • #29
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    will you people stop giving that rag exposure, let it die a silent death, do not advertise it, just close this thread


  • #30
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    moonpurple wrote: »
    anti irish?

    they have burnt the ass off sean fitzpatrick, printing his legal threat letters, laughing in his face and daring him to take them to court

    they are up there with wolf tone for that alone

    their article opens with
    "Bloody Sunday was a shameful day in the proud history of the British Army."

    it was a day of shame and they reaped what they sowed, but remember we would all be speaking german only for the brave US, russian and UK soldiers of 1942

    but hey the op is called samsemtex
    semtex the east european plastic explosive crammed into surgical tubing and wrapped around fertilizer and icing sugar, that triggered the explosion that vaporised a little boy in omagh one afternoon along with many others

    now that was anti Irish
    moonpurple wrote: »
    anti irish?

    they have burnt the ass off sean fitzpatrick, printing his legal threat letters, laughing in his face and daring him to take them to court

    they are up there with wolf tone for that alone

    their article opens with
    "Bloody Sunday was a shameful day in the proud history of the British Army."

    it was a day of shame and they reaped what they sowed, but remember we would all be speaking german only for the brave US, russian and UK soldiers of 1942

    but hey the op is called samsemtex
    semtex the east european plastic explosive crammed into surgical tubing and wrapped around fertilizer and icing sugar, that triggered the explosion that vaporised a little boy in omagh one afternoon along with many others

    now that was anti Irish



    Are you stuck on repeat?


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  • #31
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    moonpurple wrote: »
    anti irish?

    i can't believe you need to ask that question :confused: especially during the troubles they directed nothing but bile at the irish.

    ive said it before, any irish person who buys it, is a fucking simpleton imo


  • #32
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    samsemtex wrote: »
    Oh do **** off. what the hell has my username to do with anything? Am I to assume any user with the word dynamite (eg dynamitedave) in his name has a penchant for mining?

    Sure, i'm a gurrier tracksuit laden scumbag ;)


  • #33
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,930 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I thought they would have blamed illegal Romanian asylum seekers


  • #34
    Oisinjm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    ARE SINGLE MOTHERS INFECTING YOUR MORTGAGE WITH AIDS?

    That dailymail headline maker is fúckin quality


  • #35
    ElaElaElano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ElaElaElano


    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    Daily mail headline generator, its good for sh1ts and giggles

    http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/

    First one I got was 'Could the Poles give the British taxpayer Cancer?'

    I can actually imagine that scrawled across the front page of the Daily Nazi Mail one day.


  • #36
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    WILL GYPSIES GIVE YOUR PENSION SWINE FLU?


    HAVE THE POLES MOLESTED YOUR CHILDREN?


    Ah, I do love that website


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  • #37
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    baltimore sun wrote: »
    in the fact that the Irish Daily Mail is only aimed at housewives and sure them lot are already a bunch of nazis so the paper's only preaching to the choir

    Ah yes, so speaks Mr Too Intelligent for the Irish Daily Mail. :rolleyes:


  • #38
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Oisinjm wrote: »
    ARE SINGLE MOTHERS INFECTING YOUR MORTGAGE WITH AIDS?

    Genius! :)


  • #39
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    samsemtex wrote: »
    What an utterly ****e anti Irish paper. I can't believe they try to flog an Irish version of that crap here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286909/No-excuses-forget-context-Bloody-Sunday.html



    So basically what they are saying is that the Saville report is bull**** just to appease the Catholics.

    Whats wrong with that, they didn't say anything offensive or is it just because they have the word police in it!:rolleyes: Are you saying that the policemen of Northern Ireland shouldn't be thanked for being here and looking after people in the troubles??


  • #40
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    aDeener wrote: »
    i can't believe you need to ask that question :confused: especially during the troubles they directed nothing but bile at the irish.

    ive said it before, any irish person who buys it, is a fucking simpleton imo

    its a british paper what do you expect, sure yous are always running the british down, yous are far worse, let me tell you that!!!


  • #41
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    ElaElaElano wrote: »
    First one I got was 'Could the Poles give the British taxpayer Cancer?'

    I can actually imagine that scrawled across the front page of the Daily Nazi Mail one day.

    For Frigg sake people if you don't like the bloody paper don't read it, i'm getting sick of anti-british-conservative rants, its really doing my head in, me and my family read that everyday and that is just an insult to us.


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  • #42
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    [quote=[Deleted User];66476576]It's so ridiculous you can't do anything but laugh. I love how the irony is just totally lost on them, they're saying NI is more peaceful than ever because of the work of the British army - well perhaps if they hadn't taken over the place, there wouldn't have been any Troubles! So many British people talk about Northern Ireland as if it had absolutely nothing to do with them. My mum is English and she is so embarrassed by this ridiculous 'poor us' carry on.[/QUOTE]

    But, if the irish take over Northern Ireland there will be fighting again aswell.. goes both ways you see.:P
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • #43
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Only to be expected from the Daily Bile, written by idiots for morons..

    Excuse me! Jaysus you people really are stuck up, what the hell did the british do to you ( in the last 50 years... before you start moaning:rolleyes:)! personally i think its just jealousy.


  • #44
    dr gonzo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    "the overwhelming glory must go to the police and 250,000 soldiers who served there, of whom all but a handful showed almost superhuman restraint."

    By far the best line. Its like they're saying that the civilians deserved to be shot randomly and without mercy but the soldiers grumpily just decided to do their jobs instead.

    I can imagine British soldiers facepalming reading this sh1te and thinking stop fcuking trying to stand up for us!.


  • #45
    Abrasax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    owenc wrote: »
    Whats wrong with that, they didn't say anything offensive or is it just because they have the word police in it!:rolleyes: Are you saying that the policemen of Northern Ireland shouldn't be thanked for being here and looking after people in the troubles??

    Those who conducted their job properly, yes.
    Those who colluded in murder or who let murderers roam free becuase they were informing or those who harrassed civilians etc., no.
    owenc wrote: »
    its a british paper what do you expect, sure yous are always running the british down, yous are far worse, let me tell you that!!!
    Some people here run the British down but that's a far cry from an organ of the state mowing down civilian protestors.


  • #46
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    owenc.. you can multi-quote posts instead of quoting each one individually. It makes the thread look neater when you do that.

    Just click on this icon for each post you want to reply to and then on the quote button of the final post you're replying to


  • #47
    RolandIRL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    Daily mail headline generator, its good for sh1ts and giggles

    http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/

    WILL SINGLE MOTHERS GIVE BRITAIN'S FARMERS SWINE FLU?

    HAVE HOODIES MADE YOUR CHILDREN OBESE?

    IS THE NANNY STATE IMPREGNATING THE COUNTRYSIDE?

    HAVE THE UNIONS TURNED ENGLAND GAY?

    this is so fun :D


  • #48
    Prof.Badass
    Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Can we just get a supermerge daily mail megathread going?

    :D


  • #49
    Noreen1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Noreen1


    owenc wrote: »
    Excuse me! Jaysus you people really are stuck up, what the hell did the british do to you ( in the last 50 years... before you start moaning:rolleyes:)! personally i think its just jealousy.

    Look - I'm a pretty moderate person - but - try to look at the big picture here::mad:

    1: A group of people went on a protest march - looking for Basic Human Rights that were being denied to them.

    2: They were murdered in cold blood, by people who were meant to be keeping the peace

    3: An inquiry was set up, and a pack of lies were told.

    Try to imagine, if you can, how you would feel if the shoe were on the other foot. You've just had your father/brother shot down in cold blood. To add to your grief, your loved one is then maligned as a "terrorist".
    These lies are then supported by an "inquiry":rolleyes: There's a name for that, you know - it's usually called collusion.

    29 years later - finally - the truth is told - and all you can do is complain about how much it cost - even though the additional cost was not caused by the victims or their families!!

    Now, I've gone on record as saying that I feel sorry for anyone who has lost innocent loved ones in Northern Ireland, whatever their political stance. The plain unvarnished truth is that innocent people, both Unionist and Nationalist have died in Northern Ireland.

    The humane among us can recognise that neither Unionists nor Nationalists grieve any less for their loved ones, just because we go to a particular church/want to be represented by a different Government.

    There was "an unjustified, and unjustifiable" atrocity perpetrated on Bloody Sunday. That does not mean there were no other atrocities perpetrated in Northern Ireland - but they are not the ones being discussed here - and they were not carried out by security forces.
    Try to understand the difference - your posts seem to consistently defend the indefensible - and they do a grave disservice to the people who genuinely want to put Hatred, and Bigotry, behind them - including the people whose political affiliation you share.:(

    Noreen


  • #50
    _sparkie_
    Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭_sparkie_


    people over here (i am in england at the moment) just dont want to know about NI and the ones that do form their opinions by reading biased news papers.

    the restraint part just reminded me of the letters between de valera and churchill in WW2 when churchill wanted to drag us into his mess.


  • #51
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,128 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    owenc wrote: »
    Excuse me! Jaysus you people really are stuck up, what the hell did the british do to you ( in the last 50 years... before you start moaning:rolleyes:)! personally i think its just jealousy.

    I was born in the UK, and all of my British contemporaries also think that the Daily Mail is a sh1t newspaper, so you must feel persecuted all round.:P


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