Post Man shot with air rifle in Finglas

Degsy wrote: »

You know nothing about actual firearms..a superintendent can easily licence full-bore rifles up to Winchester .270( alot bigger than a 5.56 round).
.223 rounds are commonly licenced and 9mm handgun ranges exist thoroughoutthe country.
The fact is that you need to have an excuse to shoot real guns..ie be a member of a gun club or have permission to hunt..i have both and have two firearms.
People who want to dress up as soldiers ad chase each other with guns will NOT receive licences because the superiintendent will correctly judge it to be immature behaviour.
THAT is the reason that airsoft exists..its for people who dont want to hunt and are afraid to join the army.

There are currently in excess of 8 Guarda stations that have their own airsoft teams...so our police are all immature? Maybe they shouldn't be issued with uniforms for this childish behaviour?

You just ooze of that snob attitude that I get from real steel shooters because I play airsoft, that somehow I', dragging their hobby down into the mud, and that I'm an immature child.

Sorry if I find shooting targets a bit boring, I'd rather shoot something that shoots back, and employs a bit of actual physical activity.

THAT is the reason that airsoft exists..its for people who dont want to hunt and are afraid to join the army.

Seriously your just making yourself look stupid here. So your telling me that real steel is for hunting only? And because I jsut dont find it entertaining or challenging to go hunt animals, that I'm a coward or something?

Or I'm afraid to join the army? Maybe perhaps I just didn't want to choose that path, maybe I just got lucky, that i could put myself through college, and wanted a job. Your comments hold no weight, not everyone is cut for the army, plus you cannot just walk into the army, health checks, medical checks, they use your BMI for **** sake as a tool to measure whether you are accepted or not, its not like BMI has been shown to be flawed for the last decade or so.

Your really not getting anywhere with your comments. Are you in the army? Are you a chicken for hunting animals that don't fight back, or targets that just stand static?

At big international events , 90% of the player abse are current or ex serving military, at a recent event I was at I had the pleasure to play alongside some currently serving irish military, israeli special forces, retired navy seals, Danish army, swedish army, british infantry and italian infantry.

If people like that accept me and my fellow irish players, and give us respect on an airsoft field, thats worth more then all your gun clubs put together, they are the guys that have gone through the ****, fought the ****, and bled in the ****....

I doubt they would be impressed because you can shoot a deer

And as far as me not knowing about firearms? Your right I really don't know everything there is to know about them, I definitely do not know how the irish licensing system works in full that's for sure. At the end of the day I play airsoft and work in the industry, so airsoft is all I'm required to know, but naturally that leads to me reading about real steel too. The newest technology, the newest rifles, new tactics at the likes, its just part of the reading I like to do, as I'm sure as a real teel user you like to read up on your hobbies developements. However I would say in my defence, that from some of the real steel shooters I see playing airsoft, or have watched in actual firing ranges, my gun discipline is ****ing lightyears ahead of some " real steel " shooters, I may only have a toy gun in my hand, but atleast I had the time to read up on gun discipline, just to add to my " nerdy" authenticity of my playstyle...and making sure I dont shoot someone in the face by accident.

(Referring to the story of a real steel shooter who would not shut up touting his mouth of about how airsoft is lame, that I was a child and immature and needed to shoot a real gun like a real men, the gentleman then proceeded to accidently discharge a round into the side of his firing booth.....)

There is a woeful lack of understanding of ballistics, firearms and their licensing in Ireland here. More to the point, it's all utterly irrelevant.

ScumLord wrote: »

Hardly, when I tried to get a gun licence it became a long dragged out thing and the cops wouldn't give me one. So I ran him down in my fully licensed car.

I think Degsy should go airsofting. I think he'd love shooting at all of ye and visa versa.

Yeah shooting since he was four, I'd say he will be a ****ing hawk eye shooter...until we start to move..and he cant hit ****...

Sir Molle wrote: »

Since when this debate about airsoft become a pissing contest about who can shoot who? It's a tad bit immature, but then again, so is running around in a field pretending to be soldiers. Nobody has come up with an argument with any weight in it as to why airsoft weapons should not be banned.

Yes there is....

Indigenous firms employing staff prospering in a poor economic climate.
Providing safe and social physical activity that has no boundries for race/colour/nationality.

ugh I'm tired of feeding the trolls

Sir Molle wrote: »

Since when this debate about airsoft become a pissing contest about who can shoot who? It's a tad bit immature, but then again, so is running around in a field pretending to be soldiers. Nobody has come up with an argument with any weight in it as to why airsoft weapons should not be banned.

Because they're fun, I like having fun. I hate baby's who want the world wrapped in cotton wool to protect the idiots and stupid from them selfs.

Sir Molle wrote: »

Since when this debate about airsoft become a pissing contest about who can shoot who? It's a tad bit immature, but then again, so is running around in a field pretending to be soldiers. Nobody has come up with an argument with any weight in it as to why airsoft weapons should not be banned.

And since when did a thread about a postman being shot with an air rifle in Finglas turn into a discussion about airsoft..?

They really do have nothing to do with each other.

connundrum wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0714/anpost.html

Heard about this on the news. I know that there are a lot of things going on, but this is taking the piss. Now we've to start issuing bullet-proof vests to Posties?!

Up till now all they had to worry about was rabid dogs and randy housewives.

Fuckin scum

Must the the rescission, it a sad day if criminals cannot afford a proper gun and real bullets.

Anyone can build a replica from scratch with scrap metal, wood, paint and some basic tools. A toy gun bought from a toy shop could likewise be modified into something "real" enough to convince a terrified lay-person.

There is no case for banning air soft devices, and Degsy as a firearm owner you shame yourself with your posts in this thread. Your attitude is typical of the people behind the unjust firearms legislation being pushed through right now. Your insulting of airsoft owners, calling them nerds and walter mittys, is no different from the tree huggers calling you a bambi killer or sadist or whatever. Get some perspective.

After reading all this drivel, I have come to the conclusion that I must revise previously held views on certain longstanding boards.ie posters of the BGRH persuasion, appearing to be complete cvnts as it were.

That is the only thing that has come out of this thread as far as I'm concerned.