Irish 23 Man Squad - The Run In

TheRedDevil10 · 07-05-2012 5:05pm

For anyone who missed the press conference
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/footballassociationofireland/events/announcement

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 5:12pm

Thought Andy and Steven Reid were worth a call up.
Andy Reid is top class, well according to Dunphy anyway.

tayto lover · 07-05-2012 5:18pm

How did Hunt get into that panel ?

Soups123 · 07-05-2012 5:20pm

Squad is as I expected, shame about McCarthy but he made the right call.

I'm a fan of rewarding those that do the hard work, having qualified I fully expect the players who got us there to be on the plane, the size of the squad does allow you to draft in one or two surprises.

For many decades the irish team has had players that play better internationally regardless of club form, for that reason Traps had to bring those who have being doing the job for us.

Now the squad is announced everyone should get behind the team sure what fun is spending June moaning about who should/nt be there, support it and enjoy it a minimum 3 great nights out

Coillte_Bhoy · 07-05-2012 5:39pm

Flincher wrote: »

I would have liked Coleman involved in the 23, probably at the expense of Hunt, but I that is pretty much as expected.

Best wishes also to McCarthy and his family.

I think that could have been handled better by those in the know. It was unfair on the likes of Duff to have a lot of speculation about their personal lives as a result. I think it was poor form by some journalists who seemed determined to create a bit of mystery and a story about what is a very difficult time for McCarthy.

Which journalists and in fairness what did you expect them to do? They didnt know the facts so of course they are going to speculate

Liam O · 07-05-2012 5:49pm

Wont happen but I'd prefer Kelly to start right back and O'Shea in the centre.

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 5:55pm

McLean on fire on twitter!!

love the dogs abuse am gettin of shock N.I fans, just worry about watchin ur own country at the euros.... oh wait #mybad #awkward haha

ScummyMan · 07-05-2012 5:59pm

Why Hunt instead of Hoolahan? Makes no sense

applehunter · 07-05-2012 6:02pm

Feel bad for Duff.

Has been a great servant to Ireland.

Pudsy33 · 07-05-2012 6:03pm

applehunter wrote: »

Feel bad for Duff.

Has been a great servant to Ireland.

Why do you feel bad for him?

GLaDOS · 07-05-2012 6:04pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

McLean on fire on twitter!!

love the dogs abuse am gettin of shock N.I fans, just worry about watchin ur own country at the euros.... oh wait #mybad #awkward haha

No need for that sort of thing

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 6:06pm

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

Why Hunt instead of Hoolahan? Makes no sense

Hoolahan is a very attacking player, plays well behind a striker but poor defensively. Ireland Play with 2 holding midfield players therfore he is not suited to the team, similar story with Andy Reid, can't blame trap for having a strategy and sticking by it.

Pudsy33 · 07-05-2012 6:07pm

ScienceNerd wrote: »

No need for that sort of thing

He has a sense of humour, and if people are happy to give him vitriol over twitter, then they should be able to take some banter back.

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 6:09pm

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Patsy fyre wrote: »

McLean on fire on twitter!!

love the dogs abuse am gettin of shock N.I fans, just worry about watchin ur own country at the euros.... oh wait #mybad #awkward haha

No need for that sort of thing

Why not? The abuse he is getting is unreal. That's the best way to silence all the haters.

TheRedDevil10 · 07-05-2012 6:15pm

Players called up in the last 12 months that haven't made the squad or stand-by list

Stephen Henderson
Brian Murphy

Damien Delaney
Shane Duffy
Kevin Kilbane
Marc Wilson

Conor Clifford
Liam Lawrence
Keith Treacy

Leon Best

Do any deserve a place in the squad or stand-by list ?

Sergio · 07-05-2012 6:22pm

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

Players called up in the last 12 months that haven't made the squad or stand-by list

Stephen Henderson
Brian Murphy

Damien Delaney
Shane Duffy
Kevin Kilbane
Marc Wilson

Conor Clifford
Liam Lawrence
Keith Treacy

Leon Best

Do any deserve a place in the squad or stand-by list ?

Perhaps Leon best but hes been injured for the last few months and liam lawrence but cardiff have been hammered by west ham in the play offs today so he hasnt done himself any favours there.
I think coleman definitley deserved a place over Darren gibson as hes versatile and a much better footballer.

skydish79 · 07-05-2012 6:22pm

Is it definite the McCarthy would have been included if he's father hadnt been diagnosed with cancer?

kenco · 07-05-2012 6:22pm

Sad news for James McC and his family. Thoughts and prayers with them and theirs. Good to see he was in the squad though before this sad turn of events. Clearly Trap sees a role for him post Euro 2012 in the starting 11.

As for the rest no surprises. Wes H was never going to make it. Lots of talk about Steve Ireland which I was stunned at as I never thought he would be back on the radar....

Starting 11 for Croatia is predictable unless injuries kick in but I would not rule out McLean starting if he impresses in the warm ups

Would prefer O Shea to partner Dunne but in fairness St Ledger has not done much wrong so not the worst

Still think we will get out of this group (if we perform) but dont know if it will be with 2,3 or 4 pts...

klose · 07-05-2012 6:24pm

Never realised there was prize money in this, in 08 every country got 7.5mil for just qualifying and a win was worth 1mill and draw 500k, how bad!!

G.K. · 07-05-2012 6:25pm

Sergio wrote: »

I think coleman definitley deserved a place over Darren gibson as hes versatile and a much better footballer.

A) Coleman isn't a CM

Coleman's not playing much, while Gibson is bang in form.

Raskolnikov · 07-05-2012 6:28pm

While it is sad that Coleman has been left out, what other choice did Trap have? There is really only space for 4 wingers. McGeady and Duff have to be in the squad. If McClean didn't make the team, there would have been holy murder. That leaves only one berth open - that of Stephen Hunt.

Stephen Hunt - 23 Premier League starts, 4 assists, 3 goals.
Seamus Coleman - 18 Premier League games (17 matches at right wing), 0 assists, 0 goals.

Hunt was actually having an alright season until the New Year when he struggled with groin problems. From what I have seen of him, he actually played a few games when it looked pretty clear that he wasn't fit.

Pudsy33 · 07-05-2012 6:28pm

skydish79 wrote: »

Is it definite the McCarthy would have been included if he's father hadnt been diagnosed with canceer?

That seems to be what is being suggested.

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 6:29pm

Lawrence made a poor decision to join Portsmouth, thought he could have played for a lower level prem team. He can count himself a little unlucky

Leon best started the season well, then got injured and came back to demba ba and cisse on fire, and never got his position back. Had he kept scoring a few goals he may have pushed his way onto the team, but he needed a good season.

GLaDOS · 07-05-2012 6:31pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Why not? The abuse he is getting is unreal. That's the best way to silence all the haters.

Pudsy33 wrote: »

He has a sense of humour, and if people are happy to give him vitriol over twitter, then they should be able to take some banter back.

The people giving him abuse are morons for the most part, better not to respond.

Raskolnikov · 07-05-2012 6:40pm

Sergio wrote: »

I think coleman definitley deserved a place over Darren gibson as hes versatile and a much better footballer.

Whatever about versatility, I don't see how anyone can state that Coleman is a better footballer than Gibson.

Vokes · 07-05-2012 6:43pm

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

Players called up in the last 12 months that haven't made the squad or stand-by list

Stephen Henderson
Brian Murphy

Damien Delaney
Shane Duffy
Kevin Kilbane
Marc Wilson

Conor Clifford
Liam Lawrence
Keith Treacy

Leon Best

Do any deserve a place in the squad or stand-by list ?

Am suprised that Best isn't in the standby list as a replacement forward option to cover the 5 current picks. Although in saying that, I haven't been following Keogh. Has his club form been especially good?

If one of the current 5 forwards were to get injured in the next month, then presumably Keogh will be the like-for-like replacement.

kitakyushu · 07-05-2012 6:44pm

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Stephen Hunt - 23 Premier League starts, 4 assists, 3 goals.
Seamus Coleman - 18 Premier League games (17 matches at right wing), 0 assists, 0 goals.[/B]

That looks doubly bad for Coleman when you consider Hunt was managing it at Wolves.

GLaDOS · 07-05-2012 6:45pm

Brian Murphy

Should try and get a starting spot with a Championship club, wasted at QPR, think he's third choice.

Raskolnikov · 07-05-2012 6:46pm

skydish79 wrote: »

Is it definite the McCarthy would have been included if he's father hadnt been diagnosed with cancer?

Yea, it sounded like he would have been going.

G.K. · 07-05-2012 6:54pm

Keogh has had an excellent club season.

darkman2 · 07-05-2012 6:54pm

James McClean = Toto Schilachi says Trapattoni

Salvatore-Schillaci-Argentina-Italy-World-Cup_2383380.jpg

kenco · 07-05-2012 7:00pm

darkman2 wrote: »

James McClean = Toto Schilachi says Trapattoni

Heres hoping and at least we dont have Argentina to deal with in the Semis (Germany, heh heh....)

monkey9 · 07-05-2012 7:08pm

Absolutely delighted to see James McClean in that squad. It picks itself really, but he was the one where i wasn't sure or not if he'd be picked and i was hoping he would. Completely delighted for him and he deserved it. That's six former LOI players in there now, great advert for the league.

Horrible news about James McCarthy and hopefully that has a good ending!

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 7:25pm

Sad news for mccarthy but does anyone else think he is using it as an excuse? I mean his father has just been diagnosed. Whether or not he goes he can not change that fact. The tournament is slightly over 3 weeks long. More than likely Ireland will be out after 9 days.
He's playing for Wigan tonight, no problems there then.

gnfnrhead · 07-05-2012 7:28pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Sad news for mccarthy but does anyone else think he is using it as an excuse? I mean his father has just been diagnosed. Whether or not he goes he can not change that fact. The tournament is slightly over 3 weeks long. More than likely Ireland will be out after 9 days.
He's playing for Wigan tonight, no problems there then.

I think there is a difference between being in England, where his father could easily be, and being in Poland for several weeks. They don't just show up the day before the tournament starts either.

Pudsy33 · 07-05-2012 7:28pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Sad news for mccarthy but does anyone else think he is using it as an excuse? I mean his father has just been diagnosed. Whether or not he goes he can not change that fact. The tournament is slightly over 3 weeks long. More than likely Ireland will be out after 9 days.
He's playing for Wigan tonight, no problems there then.

Think you are way off the mark here. Did you read his statement?

monkey9 · 07-05-2012 7:29pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Sad news for mccarthy but does anyone else think he is using it as an excuse? I mean his father has just been diagnosed. Whether or not he goes he can not change that fact. The tournament is slightly over 3 weeks long. More than likely Ireland will be out after 9 days.
He's playing for Wigan tonight, no problems there then.

But what would he be using it as an excuse for??? Surely he'd want to go to a major international tournament. There's a big difference between playing a league match in the same country or at least island anyway as your da and heading off to the continent for a month away where he won't get to see his dad and his mind is on other matters.

I think it's a silly point, tbh. I just take it all on face value!! It is was it is.

Corholio · 07-05-2012 7:30pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Sad news for mccarthy but does anyone else think he is using it as an excuse? I mean his father has just been diagnosed. Whether or not he goes he can not change that fact. The tournament is slightly over 3 weeks long. More than likely Ireland will be out after 9 days.
He's playing for Wigan tonight, no problems there then.

I was waiting for someone to start questioning it.

Why would he need an excuse? Are you saying he doesn't want to play in the european championships? Trap clearly stated that McCarthy felt he wouldn't mentally be right to play in the tournament.

Well as much as Trap can clearly say anything :pac:

Cokeistan · 07-05-2012 7:32pm

Couldn't be happier with the squad to be honest! Really happy about the inclusion of McClean in the squad too. I thought Leon Best would at least be included in the standy players but that would be my only complaint!

Terrible news on James McCarthy's father, I wish him a speedy recovery

monkey9 · 07-05-2012 7:38pm

Cokeistan wrote: »

Couldn't be happier with the squad to be honest! Really happy about the inclusion of McClean in the squad too. I thought Leon Best would at least be included in the standy players but that would be my only complaint!

Terrible news on James McCarthy's father, I wish him a speedy recovery

Sure is Best not still injured?? He certainly wouldn't be match fit and allthough he started the season off well, i think there's definitely players well ahead of him in the striker role!

Patsy fyre · 07-05-2012 7:38pm

Well it's just that he has pulled out of squads regularly enough, and his commitment to the republic has been suspect at best.
My views are probably influenced by the Stephen Ireland granny fiasco. Just feel that if it was robbie Keane or Richard dunne they would still be going. This tournament only comes around once every 4 years.

MickySticks · 07-05-2012 7:39pm

No Andy Reid?

FFS

thebaz · 07-05-2012 7:40pm

Cokeistan wrote: »

Couldn't be happier with the squad to be honest! Really happy about the inclusion of McClean in the squad too. I thought Leon Best would at least be included in the standy players but that would be my only complaint!

Terrible news on James McCarthy's father, I wish him a speedy recovery

Best seams way of the radar these days - he seams way down on the newcastle striker options

cgpg5 · 07-05-2012 7:42pm

thebaz wrote: »

Best seams way of the radar these days - he seams way down on the newcastle striker options

Has been injured, and not many would get into a team with Ba and Cisse performing the way they are.

On another note I think posts like the one questioning McCarthy pulling out above are best be ignored, people clearly love to get reactions from anything

monkey9 · 07-05-2012 7:43pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Well it's just that he has pulled out of squads regularly enough, and his commitment to the republic has been suspect at best.
My views are probably influenced by the Stephen Ireland granny fiasco. Just feel that if it was robbie Keane or Richard dunne they would still be going. This tournament only comes around once every 4 years.

I really would just take this on face value!!! People react differently to news like this and although i understand what you say about past squad pull-outs, this is different! I just don't think it should it be questioned, as i've said, it is what it is and hopefully, it has a happy ending.

Pro. F · 07-05-2012 7:46pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Well it's just that he has pulled out of squads regularly enough, and his commitment to the republic has been suspect at best.
My views are probably influenced by the Stephen Ireland granny fiasco. Just feel that if it was robbie Keane or Richard dunne they would still be going. This tournament only comes around once every 4 years.

That's a pretty scummy thing to be saying. His father has cancer ffs. He doesn't want to be off on the continent for a month. It's perfectly fair that somebody would pull out of the squad in that situation. Questioning his commitment and speculating what other players would do in the situation is disgusting.

BOHtox · 07-05-2012 7:52pm

McShane on standby instead of Clark is a strange one for me. Clark can play at CB and LB and has played in midfield whereas McShane can play... well nowhere really!

Liam O · 07-05-2012 8:05pm

Patsy fyre wrote: »

Well it's just that he has pulled out of squads regularly enough, and his commitment to the republic has been suspect at best.
My views are probably influenced by the Stephen Ireland granny fiasco. Just feel that if it was robbie Keane or Richard dunne they would still be going. This tournament only comes around once every 4 years.

Stephen Ireland's girlfriend/wife or whatever she is had a miscarriage, he handled it terribly but I've long excused his actions and it was a valid excuse on it's own to pull out. He was probably very committed to the team but became disillusioned because of how he was treated by the papers/idiot fans when he dropped out.

McCarthy chose Ireland over Scotland and has been unwavering in his commitment to that decision even when the shíte was being perpetuated about him the same as it was about Ireland. It's perfectly fair he doesn't want to miss out on potential final weeks/months with his dad for the tournament which he probably would have played a bit part role in.

bookie basher · 07-05-2012 8:10pm

happy enough with the squad, theres no glaring omissions,
mcshane & green not making the squad is a relief, 2 of the poorest players ever to play for us!!!

Rhys Essien · 07-05-2012 8:16pm

Liam O wrote: »

Stephen Ireland's girlfriend/wife or whatever she is had a miscarriage, he handled it terribly but I've long excused his actions and it was a valid excuse on it's own to pull out. He was probably very committed to the team but became disillusioned because of how he was treated by the papers/idiot fans when he dropped out.

McCarthy chose Ireland over Scotland and has been unwavering in his commitment to that decision even when the shíte was being perpetuated about him the same as it was about Ireland. It's perfectly fair he doesn't want to miss out on potential final weeks/months with his dad for the tournament which he probably would have played a bit part role in.

Or did she?.

The fella told so many lies,how do we know what to believe.

Irish 23 Man Squad - The Run In

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