BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

JohnBoy26 · 22-10-2014 10:42pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

Early ones had relatively few issues and were no worse than any of the competition in that regard. They also pushed out over 100hp (105?) from a 1.4l engine. VW only managed to do that in the Golf over 15 years later. Toyota didn't do it until the VVTI came along.

I'm not for a second dissing the Honda engine at all but I don't think it's fair to say Rover engines were all shyte. And lets not forget, the Rover L-Series engine was good enough for Honda

In fairness I'm talking about engines rover produced, and petrol units at that. The L series is a Perkins engine.

As regards to the k series, all 4 cylinder units gave hg issues as they were all based on the same sandwiched together with long bolt design. They also had a hollow area in the between each cylinder which left only a very thin area for the hg to cover.

Maybe earlier ones didn't suffer from noisy tappets or piston slap, I can't remember tbh, but by 96 they definitely did as a family member had a 96 200 series that gave these issues.

The 1.4 did have a good bhp rating for it's time tbf but from driving a k series 414 and it's Honda 90bhp civic equivalent I didn't notice much between the in regards to performance.

JohnBoy26 · 22-10-2014 10:50pm

unkel wrote: »

Only because Honda were unable to make a diesel engine themselves

Two decades later and they're till struggling

Honda got rid of the l series diesel and replaced it with a VTEC engine. In the civic this VTEC engine was the 1.5 Eco vtec unit which was a much nicer engine than the l series tbh and offered similar economy.

Honda make good diesels nowadays tbh. I dont see how they are still struggling. Their first effort 10 years ago mightn't of been the best but they have long since perfected their diesel units.

Ded_Zebra · 22-10-2014 10:52pm

Do you think we could actually have a K series thread?

If this argument comes up again I think I'll close my account! It's worse than the fog lights.:(

ba_barabus · 22-10-2014 10:56pm

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Do you think we could actually have a K series thread?

If this argument comes up again I think I'll close my account! It's worse than the fog lights.:(

I haven't seen it in ages. TBH it makes a welcome break from the Alfa/BMW/Merc trend that permeates through every thread on the forum.

I was clearing up ToyotaAvensis misunderstanding, JohnBoy made a sweeping statement and we had 2 messages each about it. Hardly massively OT now was it?

Anyway, here is a banger

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rover-45/7888576

NCT June 2015 and all work seems to be done.

Esel · 22-10-2014 11:00pm

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Do you think we could actually have a K series thread?

If this argument comes up again I think I'll close my account! It's worse than the fog lights.:(

K

Esel · 22-10-2014 11:00pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

I haven't seen it in ages. TBH it makes a welcome break from the Alfa/BMW/Merc trend that permeates through every thread on the forum.

I was clearing up ToyotaAvensis misunderstanding, JohnBoy made a sweeping statement and we had 2 messages each about it. Hardly massively OT now was it?

Anyway, here is a banger

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rover-45/7888576

NCT June 2015 and all work seems to be done.

I see what you did there.

Ded_Zebra · 22-10-2014 11:01pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

I haven't seen it in ages. TBH it makes a welcome break from the Alfa/BMW/Merc trend that permeates through every thread on the forum.

I was clearing up ToyotaAvensis misunderstanding, JohnBoy made a sweeping statement and we had 2 messages each about it. Hardly massively OT now was it?

Anyway, here is a banger

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rover-45/7888576

NCT June 2015 and all work seems to be done.

It's not up recently alright but again it will achieve nothing.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-renault-laguna-nct-08-15/7860881

toyotaavensis · 22-10-2014 11:56pm

I sincerely apologise. I made a mistake thinking it was a k series engine and the fact that the rad was gone on the car made me think the HG might be on its way out.

My bad lads
anyways back to bangers - a little haggling brings this lpg machine into budget
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-ford-focus-lpg/7755547

Esel · 23-10-2014 3:35am

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I sincerely apologise. I made a mistake thinking it was a k series engine and the fact that the rad was gone on the car made me think the HG might be on its way out.

My bad lads
anyways back to bangers - a little haggling brings this lpg machine into budget
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-ford-focus-lpg/7755547

Never heard that K-series HGF involved radiator failure - unless the rad failed and caused the HGF.

commited · 23-10-2014 10:08am

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-bmw-car/7909613
01 BMW 525i, 9 months tax, 3 months NCT, auto, climate, leather.

johndaman66 · 23-10-2014 11:04am

Esel wrote: »

Never heard that K-series HGF involved radiator failure - unless the rad failed and caused the HGF.

Or presumably HGF could be the cause of radiator failure also. i.e. rad gets full of gunk and realistically the only job is to replace it.

1.8 VVTI Celica; 6 spd;
100k miles were told;
nct 08/15;
leather;
unmolested;
Asking €1,200

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-celica-for-sale/7937915

unkel · 23-10-2014 11:42am

johndaman66 wrote: »

Or presumably HGF could be the cause of radiator failure also. i.e. rad gets full of gunk and realistically the only job is to replace it.

Nah. K-series engine long gone before the rad could get full of gunk

Cantona's Collars · 23-10-2014 3:47pm

http://www.adverts.ie/car/opel/corsa/need-gone-today-frrsh-nct-perfect-first-car/6695196

cadaliac · 23-10-2014 5:02pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Honda make good diesels nowadays tbh. I dont see how they are still struggling. Their first effort 10 years ago mightn't of been the best but they have long since perfected their diesel units.

In the words of our Virgin Mary, "Come Again"?

unkel · 23-10-2014 10:40pm

'05 Rover 75, asking €900

Linky

unkel · 23-10-2014 10:44pm

'06 Superb 1.9 TDI, asking just €2,350. Doubt it can be bought for 2k cash just like that, but if you find something wrong with it during inspection, you never know!

Linky

jharr100 · 23-10-2014 10:58pm

unkel wrote: »

'06 Superb 1.9 TDI, asking just €2,350. Doubt it can be bought for 2k cash just like that, but if you find something wrong with it during inspection, you never know!

Linky

Do you think it might have been a taxi?

RayCon · 23-10-2014 11:36pm

unkel wrote: »

'05 Rover 75, asking €900

Linky

Really hating those wheels

JohnBoy26 · 23-10-2014 11:51pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2-0t-02/7866177

wonski · 23-10-2014 11:56pm

jharr100 wrote: »

Do you think it might have been a taxi?

Good detective work:D

Kotek Besar · 24-10-2014 7:17am

NEVER buy an ex-taxi or ex-rental car.

barryoneill50 · 24-10-2014 8:29am

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2003-volvo-s60-tax-nct-5-15/7942897

What about this eh?

Cheensbo · 24-10-2014 1:57pm

97 406 tested till 01/16,

Right bit of xud bagain-ness

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-406-cheap-diesel-nct-2016-/7767719

I'd be all over it, if I was in the market!

JP 1800 · 24-10-2014 4:33pm

commited wrote: »

http://www.adverts.ie/car/bmw/other-bmw/2002-bmw-for-sale/6467371
2002 318i estate, 160k, 6 months tax, 9 months NCT - €1000. Looks like a decent car, fitting a MFSW would make a huge improvement too.

Picking this up tomorrow, It has a hot water valve fault, and an intermittent crank sensor fault other than that it drives and handles extremely well. I will fix the issues, get a multi-function steering wheel and leather seats for the front and drive her til the tax expires. Parking up the CE300 for the six months will have paid for the car according to my man maths.

kupus · 24-10-2014 5:39pm

Kotek Besar wrote: »

NEVER buy an ex-taxi or ex-rental car.

I wouldnt say never, I looked at one once and it was in great shape, the guy was really passionate about his car, and had every little docket and service record since ownership.

His view was the car was his means of income, and if he didnt look after it, it would not look after him.

Depends on the person.

Moneymaker · 24-10-2014 5:54pm

Kotek Besar wrote: »

NEVER buy an ex-taxi or ex-rental car.

I'd generally agree, but a well maintained one with documented service history would be grand.

tinofapples · 24-10-2014 6:54pm

JP 1800 wrote: »

Picking this up tomorrow, It has a hot water valve fault, and an intermittent crank sensor fault other than that it drives and handles extremely well. I will fix the issues, get a multi-function steering wheel and leather seats for the front and drive her til the tax expires. Parking up the CE300 for the six months will have paid for the car according to my man maths.

Off board PM dealing ....... tut tut :eek:

JP 1800 · 24-10-2014 7:08pm

tinofapples wrote: »

Off board PM dealing ....... tut tut :eek:

Nothing so underhanded, I prefer to engage with persons via phone and in person over time wasting and unsubstantiated offers, or should I hand myself into the nearest Garda station

wonski · 24-10-2014 7:12pm

tinofapples wrote: »

Off board PM dealing ....... tut tut :eek:

At least he is not wasting seller's time by offering 100 yoyos, comic books collection and a chinese guitar;)

Sgt Pepper 64 · 24-10-2014 9:42pm

wonski wrote: »

At least he is not wasting seller's time by offering 100 yoyos, comic books collection and a chinese guitar;)

Chinese guitar? Noodles for strings?!

wonski · 24-10-2014 9:50pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Chinese guitar? Noodles for strings?!

I play mexican now:D. You know what I meant anyway.

Moneymaker · 24-10-2014 9:59pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/00-d-bmw-316-compact-tax-1-15-nct-06-15/7867684

These are actually growing on me

rizzee · 24-10-2014 10:00pm

Cool little car that.

tinofapples · 24-10-2014 10:03pm

wonski wrote: »

At least he is not wasting seller's time by offering 100 yoyos, comic books collection and a chinese guitar;)

Ain't that what adverts is all about

wonski · 24-10-2014 10:13pm

tinofapples wrote: »

Ain't that what adverts is all about

Nope. It isn't. That is what wasters think it is.But it isn't. Especially when it comes to cars. Not a place to discuss it anyway. It is about cars, not a chinese noodles or swaps:D

johndaman66 · 24-10-2014 10:24pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/00-d-bmw-316-compact-tax-1-15-nct-06-15/7867684

These are actually growing on me

That took what, 19 odd years for that to happen:)

Neat little motor alright though. It wont be a rocket we know that but it would hardly be a slouch either with 1.9 petrol under the bonnet...for the size of a car it is...

Simonigs1.0 · 24-10-2014 10:35pm

They aren't bad, and thats not a bad car for the price.

26000 Elephants · 25-10-2014 12:46am

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

They aren't bad, and thats not a bad car for the price.

Must be catching, im starting to like them as well. Hard enough to find nice clean examples, which puzzles me as i thought they would be minded, whereas the saloons have long since fallen in to the hands of penniless m3-owning wannabees, who would rather spend money on wing mirrors and orange wheel paint than a drop of oil and a filter.

Sorry, im out of cocoa and im now cranky :mad:

CianRyan · 25-10-2014 1:18am

I hate the compact but I hate it less with those lights.
Was it the E46 version got the horrible little dots instead of lights?

26000 Elephants · 25-10-2014 1:38am

CianRyan wrote: »

I hate the compact but I hate it less with those lights.
Was it the E46 version got the horrible little dots instead of lights?

It did. And had a rear off an early '80's Kadett, as someone here pointed out.

But i wouldnt mind an earlier compact, shoehorn in an m52tu and rob a rear subframe from a z3. Now that would be fun. :pac::eek:

HJL · 25-10-2014 1:39am

CianRyan wrote: »

Was it the E46 version got the horrible little dots instead of lights?

Correct, that example is the e36 version, and the e46 version has the dot lights you speak off.

I used to want one when [e36 or 46], and when I first started driving I was going to keep my first car until i passed my test and then buy one.

As it turned out i kept my first car (98) SEAT Ibiza 1.9D for 5 years and then bought a (01) e46 saloon 136bhp 6 years ago and have no inclination of changing. I think I would have out grown a compact by now, but i still like those short-ass BMWs

tinofapples · 25-10-2014 9:52am

wonski wrote: »

Nope. It isn't. That is what wasters think it is.But it isn't. Especially when it comes to cars. Not a place to discuss it anyway. It is about cars, not a chinese noodles or swaps:D

I was joking !!

colm_mcm · 25-10-2014 10:43am

Seeing as its page 323

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-323-for-sale/7934614

All the money but, mark my words, these will become valuable soon

25-10-2014 11:39am

A nice example of an A6

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7951819

Moneymaker · 25-10-2014 2:07pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Seeing as its page 323

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-323-for-sale/7934614

All the money but, mark my words, these will become valuable soon

Always liked those. The previous model was even cooler imo.

Simonigs1.0 · 25-10-2014 10:48pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-tt-quattro-1-8-217-bhp/7887505

I'm thinking of looking at this, as a cheap run around for my girlfriend. The seller sounds genuine. It was used to advertise a hair salon for 18 months. I don't know if thats good, bad or irrelevant.

Hal1 · 25-10-2014 11:18pm

Pug 307 cheap. What gives? Nct 01/15.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-307/7957042

colm_mcm · 25-10-2014 11:26pm

Its a 12 year old French car with a reputation for being a bit flakey with less than 3 months nct.
Price is right tbh.

VEHICLE
Vehicle Registration Number 02D8146
Vehicle Details PEUGEOT / 307
Change Of Vehicle Ownership
Purchased by a Dealer on : 30/07/2014

Notified on : 30/07/2014

percy212 · 25-10-2014 11:32pm

Looks nice. I like those cars. Good price. Get it checked out and buy

Hal1 wrote: »

Pug 307 cheap. What gives? Nct 01/15.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-307/7957042

JohnBoy26 · 25-10-2014 11:43pm

Hal1 wrote: »

Pug 307 cheap. What gives? Nct 01/15.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-307/7957042

Not the greatest yokes ever made and not one of Peugeots better efforts. Doesn't live up to Peugeot's "drive of your life" like it's predecessor the 306 did.

BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

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