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New Hampshire Primary

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  • #52
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    Here is Fox News' exit poll data for last night. From looking at the data Ron Paul seems to be the only alternative to Romney.


  • #53
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Wow, look at that, 46% of 18-29 year olds voting for Paul. It's amazing how the oldest candidate seems to be the one most in touch with young people.


  • #54
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Conservatives would like to fix the Republican party and beat Barack Obama in 2012. Many have come to realize both can’t be done at once. So beating Obama comes first, fixing the party second. With the choices being Obama and Romney, they will warm up to Romney pretty quickly. At least you will know as POTUS, Romney will represent all the people – not just republicans, unlike the current president who seemingly represents his ideologies and his base peeps. You won’t see conservatives sit this election out in protest, as they feel too much is at stake for the country not to vote. Also, the Tea Party’s planned resurgence in May 2012 will put this administration’s tax and spend addition to the fire all the way up to the election. It will be an interesting year here.

    So to paraphrase the Beatles... Come together right now over Romney.


  • #55
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,533 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    spagboll wrote: »
    I've been in NH, it's a seriously honky state, surprised that Perry is having such a mare

    You mean nightmare do you, I hear ya. Politically and Personally, I find Rick Perry a nightmare too.

    His presence should not allow him to be there, Full Stop.


  • #56
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    Finishing second in the Republican primary wasn't good enough for Ron Paul. He also finished second in the Democrat primary with 2,273 votes.


  • #57
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amerika wrote: »
    Conservatives would like to fix the Republican party and beat Barack Obama in 2012. Many have come to realize both can’t be done at once. So beating Obama comes first, fixing the party second.

    I dont know...

    You stand a much better chance of wining a presidential election when you're not running against a sitting president.

    Which is why the republicans have already thrown this election, they know they dont stand a chance in 2012. Hence the collection of inappropriate candidates plus ron paul (who has to run because he's so old this is his last chance).


  • #58
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amerika wrote: »
    Also, the Tea Party’s planned resurgence in May 2012 will put this administration’s tax and spend addition to the fire all the way up to the election. It will be an interesting year here.

    Resurgence huh? Resurgance from their last debacle.

    If you mean their continuing effort to scupper the budget by insisting on paying for tax cuts for the 1% by cutting benefits to pensioners, remember how well that went down with the public when they last tried it before xmas?

    If they were half way competent they wouldn't need to "re-surge" because they wouldnt have plunged into insignificance in the first place.

    Isnt the definition of stupidity not learning from your past mistakes?


  • #59
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    Finishing second in the Republican primary wasn't good enough for Ron Paul. He also finished second in the Democrat primary with 2,273 votes.

    Funny. Maybe if his deluded supporters had a clue as to which party he's actually in those 2273 votes may have helped him in his own party's primary.


  • #60
    matthew8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Funny. Maybe if his deluded supporters had a clue as to which party he's actually in those 2273 votes may have helped him in his own party's primary.

    You really don't have a clue. For one, some people troll the primary. Secondly, Mitt Romney got nearly as many votes. Finally, democrats maybe don't want to waste their time re-registering for one stinking vote.


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  • #61
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    matthew8 wrote: »
    You really don't have a clue. For one, some people troll the primary. Secondly, Mitt Romney got nearly as many votes. Finally, democrats maybe don't want to waste their time re-registering for one stinking vote.

    Before you mouth off perhaps you should do some reading. independent voters can vote in both primary elections in the state of new hampshire. Only those with declared party affiliations are restricted to either primary.

    There are more independent voters registered in NH than there are registered republicans and democrats.


  • #62
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Resurgence huh? Resurgance from their last debacle.

    If you mean their continuing effort to scupper the budget by insisting on paying for tax cuts for the 1% by cutting benefits to pensioners, remember how well that went down with the public when they last tried it before xmas?

    If they were half way competent they wouldn't need to "re-surge" because they wouldnt have plunged into insignificance in the first place.

    Isnt the definition of stupidity not learning from your past mistakes?

    Just keep thinking that way... please! :D

    Much of us plan to focus our efforts on the Senate races this year. The voice will carry over into the general election.


  • #63
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    RichieC wrote: »
    Before you mouth off perhaps you should do some reading. independent voters can vote in both primary elections in the state of new hampshire. Only those with declared party affiliations are restricted to either primary.

    There are more independent voters registered in NH than there are registered republicans and democrats.

    Before you mouth off you should realise that some people don't want to become independents only to change back to being Democrats a few weeks later.


  • #64
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    RichieC wrote: »
    Before you mouth off perhaps you should do some reading. independent voters can vote in both primary elections in the state of new hampshire. Only those with declared party affiliations are restricted to either primary.

    There are more independent voters registered in NH than there are registered republicans and democrats.

    Before you mouth off you should realise that some people don't want to become independents only to change back to being Democrats a few weeks later.

    Independants in NH break to the republicans statistically. Who said they re reg as democrats? Why be party affiliated when it matters naught?

    Now, I havent looked this up but heres a guess. Younger voters areent affiliating and voting for Ron.


  • #65
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    RichieC wrote: »
    Independants in NH break to the republicans statistically. Who said they re reg as democrats? Why be party affiliated when it matters naught?

    Now, I havent looked this up but heres a guess. Younger voters areent affiliating and voting for Ron.

    People that voted for Ron in the Democrat primary were more than likely Democrats to begin with. To vote for Ron in the Republican primary they would need to register as independent. There is obviously some benefits to being a Democrat. These people are probably just disappointed with Obama's presidency and wanted to display their anger by writing in Ron Paul on the ballot. They don't like Ron Paul enough to vote for him against Obama in the general election so therefore they wouldn't waste their time registering independent to vote in the primary only to re-register as a Democrat.


  • #66
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    I know that in my village most Democrats did not vote. They're waiting for the big one.


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  • #67
    [Deleted User]
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    Spread wrote: »
    I know that in my village most Democrats did not vote. They're waiting for the big one.

    Heh. It's democracy, not a football match.


  • #68
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    There's no point in voting in the democratic primaries this year, Obama will win by a landslide and is the only declared candidate...


  • #69
    [Deleted User]
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    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    There's no point in voting in the democratic primaries this year, Obama will win by a landslide and is the only declared candidate...

    Oh, I thought he was referring to the Republican primary! Which I now see that registered Democrats couldn't vote in NH.

    Apologies from silly old me...


  • #70
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    RichieC wrote: »
    Independants in NH break to the republicans statistically. Who said they re reg as democrats? Why be party affiliated when it matters naught?

    Now, I havent looked this up but heres a guess. Younger voters areent affiliating and voting for Ron.

    People that voted for Ron in the Democrat primary were more than likely Democrats to begin with. To vote for Ron in the Republican primary they would need to register as independent. There is obviously some benefits to being a Democrat. These people are probably just disappointed with Obama's presidency and wanted to display their anger by writing in Ron Paul on the ballot. They don't like Ron Paul enough to vote for him against Obama in the general election so therefore they wouldn't waste their time registering independent to vote in the primary only to re-register as a Democrat.

    Well Im going on a break down of voters in a state where 40% of registered voters are independents and historically break for the republicans .. the liberal dems I know cant stand Paul and wouldnt even protest vote him.

    I think it a far more likely case the "independants" voted and listed ron.


  • #71
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    There's no point in voting in the democratic primaries this year, Obama will win by a landslide and is the only declared candidate...

    Some people vote in the primaries to keep a perfect voting record. I'm not sure what benefits there is to having such a record but apparently that's why many people vote anyway. Some people might turn up just as a show of support for Obama.
    RichieC wrote: »
    Well Im going on a break down of voters in a state where 40% of registered voters are independents and historically break for the republicans .. the liberal dems I know cant stand Paul and wouldnt even protest vote him.

    I think it a far more likely case the "independants" voted and listed ron.

    There is plenty of anti-war Democrats who would have great admiration for his anti-war views though and they probably wrote his name in as a response to Obama continuing Bush's foreign policy.


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  • #72
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    Some people vote in the primaries to keep a perfect voting record. I'm not sure what benefits there is to having such a record but apparently that's why many people vote anyway. Some people might turn up just as a show of support for Obama.
    Pride thing I think. I had it til the last 6 months or so, was close to not voting in the presidential election here, the winners of everything are decided long before we start to think about voting.
    There is plenty of anti-war Democrats who would have great admiration for his anti-war views though and they probably wrote his name in as a response to Obama continuing Bush's foreign policy.
    Those dreamers, looking for an alternative! :pac:


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