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Cheapest basic FTA Receiver

  • 21-01-2015 5:01pm
    #1
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    I got a new HD TV for the room which has Saorview built in so I get the Irish Channels. I have an old Sky box connected via Scart to get the BBC, UTV, CH4 etc...
    The old Sky box is big and bulky so I want to replace it with a smaller sized neat FTA box. I do not need a combi box. Any suggestions for Cheap and Cheerful box as it is only for the bedroom?
    I would need this to connect via HDMI as the Scart lead is big and bulky and because of this I can't tilt the TV.

    Cheers


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  • #2
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭LarryMac


    This seems pretty reasonable? It says it has HDMI and scart?
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Full-HD-Satellite-Receiver-PVR-with-USB-Media-player-Receive-UK-Freesat-FTA-Box-/171137524097?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Satellite_TV_Receivers&hash=item27d8976181


  • #3
    jjf1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭jjf1974


    you can get cheap boxs on both of these sites http://www.freetv.ie or http://www.satworld.ie


  • #4
    Hackery
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Hackery


    Or Satellite.ie


  • #5
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    I would recommend a Manhattan Freesat box
    http://www.manhattan-receivers.com/products/plaza-hd-s2-freesat-hd

    Very small tidy box with a full guide for the freesat channels.


  • #6
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    There was a thread on here recently with a great price on a manhattan freesat box.

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



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  • #7
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭kooga


    steveon wrote: »
    I would recommend a Manhattan Freesat box
    http://www.manhattan-receivers.com/products/plaza-hd-s2-freesat-hd

    Very small tidy box with a full guide for the freesat channels.

    manhattan +1 great box


  • #8
    An Cigire
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭An Cigire


    Tony wrote: »
    There was a thread on here recently with a great price on a manhattan freesat box.


    £89 + £16 postage from UK absolutely delighted :) Got it on sale from Tesco direct. Which is about €140.

    Some retailers here are selling it for €220.

    I believe there's a way to get it sent here through parcel motel.


  • #9
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭kooga


    An Cigire wrote: »
    £89 + £16 postage from UK absolutely delighted :) Got it on sale from Tesco direct. Which is about €140.

    Some retailers here are selling it for €220.

    I believe there's a way to get it sent here through parcel motel.

    you got the hdr box but there is a chaeper non pvr box as well.

    enjoy


  • #10
    An Cigire
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭An Cigire


    kooga wrote: »
    you got the hdr box but there is a chaeper non pvr box as well.

    enjoy

    True I wanted to advantage of the in built hard drive. Their other is meant to be very good too with a great EPG. :)


  • #11
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    An Cigire wrote: »
    True I wanted to advantage of the in built hard drive. Their other is meant to be very good too with a great EPG. :)

    The cheaper box has exactly the same epg as the recording version and sells for around70-80 euro here approx 50sterling in the uk...there is a second version just after been released with a slightly better layout of a remote control..


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  • #12
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭LarryMac


    steveon wrote: »
    The cheaper box has exactly the same epg as the recording version and sells for around70-80 euro here approx 50sterling in the uk...there is a second version just after been released with a slightly better layout of a remote control..

    Thanks Guys

    What website can I get the Manhattan box from? Cheers


  • #13
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Probably the tesco site and available widely on amazon etc


    LarryMac wrote: »
    Thanks Guys

    What website can I get the Manhattan box from? Cheers

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



  • #14
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭LarryMac


    LarryMac wrote: »
    Thanks Guys

    What website can I get the Manhattan box from? Cheers

    It's here for €77 plus postage

    http://www.freetv.ie/freesat-hd.html


  • #15
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Think its free delivery from there

    Edit: showing about the same on amazon with free shipping and more expensive on Tesco if you take shipping into account . These will probably get more expensive when current sock in Ireland runs out as the value of the euro is dropping sharply.

    LarryMac wrote: »
    It's here for €77 plus postage

    http://www.freetv.ie/freesat-hd.html

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



  • #16
    An Cigire
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭An Cigire


    LarryMac wrote: »
    Thanks Guys

    What website can I get the Manhattan box from? Cheers

    Shop around is my advice there Irish & UK sites selling them too.. Adverts have then as do amazon :)


  • #17
    TLS2015
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭TLS2015


    LarryMac wrote: »
    Thanks Guys

    What website can I get the Manhattan box from? Cheers
    If it's only FTA you want. I have been using the HD100 box from freetv.ie. Has it for over a year and it is deadly. The PVR works well with a USB stick and it's not expensive either.


  • #18
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭LarryMac


    TLS2015 wrote: »
    If it's only FTA you want. I have been using the HD100 box from freetv.ie. Has it for over a year and it is deadly. The PVR works well with a USB stick and it's not expensive either.

    I went with the HD100 for €37. Ordered it the Sunday night, got it the Tuesday morning. Good quality picture. It'll do for me!


  • #19
    TLS2015
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭TLS2015


    LarryMac wrote: »
    I went with the HD100 for €37. Ordered it the Sunday night, got it the Tuesday morning. Good quality picture. It'll do for me!

    Good for you. At that price you can't go wrong. I was watching football in HD the other day it's a great little box.


  • #20
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭LarryMac


    TLS2015 wrote: »
    Good for you. At that price you can't go wrong. I was watching football in HD the other day it's a great little box.

    Yeah I watched MOTD on BBC HD last night. Very good picture


  • #21
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Is it not €50 ? http://www.freetv.ie/hd-satellite-receiver.html

    LarryMac wrote: »
    I went with the HD100 for €37. Ordered it the Sunday night, got it the Tuesday morning. Good quality picture. It'll do for me!

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



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  • #22
    An Cigire
    Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭An Cigire


    LarryMac wrote: »
    This seems pretty reasonable? It says it has HDMI and scart?
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Full-HD-Satellite-Receiver-PVR-with-USB-Media-player-Receive-UK-Freesat-FTA-Box-/171137524097?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Satellite_TV_Receivers&hash=item27d8976181


    I presume he bought this one off eBay as opposed to similar looking HD 100..

    Just guessing now...


  • #23
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Similar logos alright , even better deal though.

    An Cigire wrote: »
    I presume he bought this one off eBay as opposed to similar looking HD 100..

    Just guessing now...

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



  • #24
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    I have a Saorview aeriel and Sky disk. I'm looking for a box that can
    Take a feed from Saorview and Sat dish.
    Have HD and SD
    7 Day EPG guide
    Front display for channels
    Built in storage HDD to record, rewind live tv.

    Looking at this Manhattan http://www.satellite.ie/acatalog/Ferguson_ariva_120_installed.html but prices seem to include installation.?

    http://www.satworld.ie/manhattan-hdr-s-freesat-recorder-box-320gb.html

    With the Manhattan, I'd have two SKY LNB but only one Saorview LNB. So am I correct, I can record one and watch another from the Sky LNB but not Saorview as I only have one Saorview input.?

    If I am recording on the Saorview input, can I watch another programme from the HDD.?



    Any advice?


  • #25
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    batman2000 wrote: »
    I have a Saorview aeriel and Sky disk. I'm looking for a box that can
    Take a feed from Saorview and Sat dish.
    Have HD and SD
    7 Day EPG guide
    Front display for channels
    Built in storage HDD to record, rewind live tv.

    Looking at this Manhattan http://www.satellite.ie/acatalog/Ferguson_ariva_120_installed.html but prices seem to include installation.?

    http://www.satworld.ie/manhattan-hdr-s-freesat-recorder-box-320gb.html

    With the Manhattan, I'd have two SKY LNB but only one Saorview LNB. So am I correct, I can record one and watch another from the Sky LNB but not Saorview as I only have one Saorview input.?

    If I am recording on the Saorview input, can I watch another programme from the HDD.?



    Any advice?

    The Manhattan box you are referring to is a freesat only box it does not have any saorview on it, it will need two cables from a dish and will provide a seven day guide. It will also enable you to use ITV player if connected via a lan cable to your network.


  • #26
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    Thanks, by the looks of things, I will need to buy a Saorview box for the Irish channels, something like the Walker WP6500TTR if I want to pause, record and series link Saorview channels.

    OR Could I use the Walker WP645TS-HD, this would allow me to add an External HDD and I can record UK Sat and Saorview along with pause/rewind


  • #27
    LarryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭LarryMac


    An Cigire wrote: »
    I presume he bought this one off eBay as opposed to similar looking HD 100..

    Just guessing now...

    Yes this is the one I ordered. Works great


  • #28
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    Different to mentioned above.
    What if I was use a Vu+Duo2, with twin DVB-S2 and DBV C/T tuner for Saorview
    Link here


  • #29
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    batman2000 wrote: »
    Different to mentioned above.
    What if I was use a Vu+Duo2, with twin DVB-S2 and DBV C/T tuner for Saorview
    Link here

    Vu Duo amazing piece of kit....expensive but worth it...


  • #30
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    steveon wrote: »
    Vu Duo amazing piece of kit....expensive but worth it...

    Yeah, it looks it, but doesn't look like I can record Saorview with this box


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  • #31
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Apogee


    batman2000 wrote: »
    Yeah, it looks it, but doesn't look like I can record Saorview with this box

    You can once you have a DVB-T tuner installed - either a plug-in tuner or a USB stick.

    Thread for Duo2 users is here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056984899


  • #32
    decor58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭decor58


    I have a manhatten plaza, non pvr, for sale, live in bray, work in city centre, if that's of interest, pm me.


  • #33
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    batman2000 wrote: »
    Yeah, it looks it, but doesn't look like I can record Saorview with this box

    For any PVR box. If there is only 1 DVB-T cable coming from the antenna, can I use a splitter and connect into a twin DVB-T tuner card, therefore be able to record Saorview and watch another Saorview channel.?

    Another post mentioned
    Apogee wrote: »
    You can once you have a DVB-T tuner installed - either a plug-in tuner or a USB stick.


    But I'm unsure how this will allow me to watch and record Saorview?


  • #34
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Apogee


    For any PVR for Saorview/DTT, a single aerial cable can feed both tuners - this can be done with a splitter, or some PVR may have an internal loopthrough.

    If you have 1 DVB-T tuner, this allows you to record one Saorview channel, while watching any other Saorview channel on the same mux - option 1

    If you have 2 DVB-T tuners, this allows you to record any Saorview channel and watch any Saorview channel, even if they are on different muxes - option 2.

    It looks from your posts that you want option 2.

    There are 2 different ways you can do this with a Vu+ Duo2 box.

    A. Get a Vu+Duo2 with a 1x dual DVB-S2 tuner, a DVB-T tuner and an additional USB single DVB-T tuner.

    vuduo2_reartuners-625x408.jpg

    plus

    42PG_0506CD42-0A81-49C7-BA25-68D0D80423A6_large.jpg

    B. Get a Vu+Duo2 with 2x single DVB-S2 tuners, and a USB dual DVB-T tuner.

    vu-tuner-s2.jpg

    novatdstick_top.jpg


  • #35
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    Thanks Apogee. This might also suit my requirements (Mutant-HD2400-HD Quad)

    Or else I'll get the VuDUo2 with a setup for Option 2 as in an attachment.
    The splitter used, could it be any DVB-T type like this.

    339445.JPG


  • #36
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Yes, any bog standard splitter will do. Speaking as someone with a fair amount of experience with different Linux receivers (Vu+ Solo/Duo, Amiko Alien 2, Azbox, and previously Dreamboxes and others), I would caution against going for a box based on its hardware alone. These Linux boxes are very dependent on how robust/mature the firmware is. It's all well and good having a box with wonderful hardware, until it falls on its arse because of poor firmware. While the Vu boxes are expensive, and there is no quad tuner setup as such, they do have very good firmware support. I honestly have no idea what the firmware support for that Mutant box is like - I would recommend doing a lot of searching before you consider buying. If you are determined to go for a quad tuner setup, then I would suggest looking at the Gigablue Quad boxes instead. There are quite a few users on boards: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057184877


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  • #37
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    Apogee wrote: »
    I would caution against going for a box based on its hardware alone. These Linux boxes are very dependent on how robust/mature the firmware is. It's all well and good having a box with wonderful hardware, until it falls on its arse because of poor firmware.

    Thanks, totally agree with your point, thanks for the feedback

    Question, how does the STB differentiate between the DVB-T signals if it's split. It must be different to Sky. Is it the encryption?
    Question: Gigablue is also Linux based and I plan to use the Vix image, along with VuDuo2 Linux. The Mutant is not Linux based. This the stability you mentioned.
    If I am going to spend the money, no point in doing it half arsed

    I would like the dual DVB-T as one slot.
    VuDo2-If I am able, as you mention, to plug one DVB-T source into the tuner card and one source into the USB, that works for me. Assuming the box will recognise the USB tuner as a source


  • #38
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Apogee


    batman2000 wrote: »
    Question, how does the STB differentiate between the DVB-T signals if it's split. It must be different to Sky. Is it the encryption?

    Saorview is not encrypted. If you're asking why you can split a terrestrial signal but not a satellite signal, it's because in order to maximise frequency usage on satellite spectrum, different polarisations are used across the same frequency range. This switching of polarisations is carried out at the LNBF (and band switching as well) giving you 4x possible combinations of H/V and Hi/Lo. Accordingly, if you 'split' a satellite signal, you are limiting your receivers to 1 of 4 polarisation/bands.
    batman2000 wrote: »
    Question: Gigablue is also Linux based and I plan to use the Vix image, along with VuDuo2 Linux. The Mutant is not Linux based. This the stability you mentioned.
    If I am going to spend the money, no point in doing it half arsed

    Ask on the Gigablue thread above on how well Vix runs on the Gigablue. I'm a fan of Vix as well (apart from a few niggles).
    batman2000 wrote: »
    I would like the dual DVB-T as one slot.
    VuDo2-If I am able, as you mention, to plug one DVB-T source into the tuner card and one source into the USB, that works for me. Assuming the box will recognise the USB tuner as a source

    A box running vix will detect the USB tuner no problem as long as the USB stick is uses one of the common chipsets. I'd imagine the vast majority of people in Ireland with Vu+ boxes are using USB DVB-T tuners to receive Saorview - myself included.


  • #39
    batman2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭batman2000


    Thanks Apogee..legend


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