OS X 10.10 Yosemite - Public Beta - July 24th

shanec1928 · 25-07-2014 8:50am

has network utility gone can't seem to find it.

airuser · 25-07-2014 9:14am

My whole system has gone . Hoping now, that there is some of my work on my back up disc.

Thanks be that much of the work can be found else where.

Just now the transfer if any there according to the screen will take 7 hours.

Here's hoping

airuser · 25-07-2014 9:38am

shanec1928 wrote: »

has network utility gone can't seem to find it.

You can also open it from Apple menu - About This Mac - More Info which opens System Information... use the Window menu to select Network Utility.

Hope it's there for you.

medic087 · 25-07-2014 9:45am

Hi Guys

Just wondering if i install the public beta, will my files and apps still be saved just like a normal mac os update ? I know it's smart to backup data first which i will do. Thanks

DubDJ · 25-07-2014 9:57am

medic087 wrote: »

Hi Guys

Just wondering if i install the public beta, will my files and apps still be saved just like a normal mac os update ? I know it's smart to backup data first which i will do. Thanks

If you install it over Mavericks and nothing goes wrong then everything should be the same as it was when you left it. But always have atleast 1 backup of your files.

airuser · 25-07-2014 9:59am

medic087 wrote: »

Hi Guys

Just wondering if i install the public beta, will my files and apps still be saved just like a normal mac os update ? I know it's smart to backup data first which i will do. Thanks

Unless all ones data is backed up to external had and you know how to restore from that. I would leave it alone.
My experience has been a disaster.
Lost everything. Do not know what happened.
My Time Capsule was my back up devise. But have been unable for some reason to retire from there.
Fortunately, some of my data is stored on anther Mac. So I can you that one
Trying another method, which a fried suggested.

fjon · 25-07-2014 10:01am

Installed it this morning and everything went flawlessly so far. Installation took about 25 mins on a 2013 rMBP.
I am liking the look of it so far, and only really had one issue - MplayerX crashes for me when going full screen.
I mistakenly thought Yosemite included the new Photos app, but I guess we have to wait a while for that.

medic087 · 25-07-2014 10:02am

Thanks guys. Might leave it then.

airuser · 25-07-2014 10:06am

fjon wrote: »

Installed it this morning and everything went flawlessly so far. Installation took about 25 mins on a 2013 rMBP.
I am liking the look of it so far, and only really had one issue - MplayerX crashes for me when going full screen.
I mistakenly thought Yosemite included the new Photos app, but I guess we have to wait a while for that.

Great for you.
Really do not know what happened here. As you say about 30 mins and there it was.
But as I say my data had disappeared.

Good luck to those you have been successful

DubDJ · 25-07-2014 10:28am

My time machine restore finished up early so I installed Yosemite late last night. First impressions are mostly good, it worked perfectly for the little amount of time I spent on it. It doesn't come with the new iTunes 12 but it's available in the App Store as an update. There's something about the look of Finder that kinda looks dated, but it'll probably grow on me. Seems ok other than that, although some of the icons could be better. Also the old widgets page is still in place, I assumed that would be removed in favour of the new side bar.

Zcott · 25-07-2014 10:31am

How old are the Macs you guys are running it on? I might give it a go on my late-08 unibody.

DubDJ · 25-07-2014 11:17am

Zcott wrote: »

How old are the Macs you guys are running it on? I might give it a go on my late-08 unibody.

Early 2011 MBP. Running perfectly.

shanec1928 · 25-07-2014 12:30pm

airuser wrote: »

You can also open it from Apple menu - About This Mac - More Info which opens System Information... use the Window menu to select Network Utility.

Hope it's there for you.

cheers had the icon pinned in the dock but was showing the ? mark after the update. have only had a brief look before work.

airuser · 25-07-2014 1:14pm

Apple have released the new OS on the web page. Anyone would appear my download it

airuser · 25-07-2014 1:17pm

https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

This page not web page

Zcott · 25-07-2014 2:34pm

Logged into the beta site and got my code. Downloading, but I'm going to install it on an external drive...and just need a caddy to arrive asap!

airuser · 25-07-2014 3:15pm

Well, do not how I did it but got the old system back again.

Two things I did learn. One that one back may not always work.
Two let the other bu....s make the mistakes.

But, please make sure that you system is backed and everything is backed up.

That you will be able to restore one system.

That is the major mistake I made in taking for granted that the Time capsule appeared to have baked up my files.

Anyway it was an experience.

jakdublin · 25-07-2014 3:22pm

I want my bookmarks back at the top of the Safari page :-(

airuser · 25-07-2014 3:24pm

I want the old Spotlight back and in the corner.

fjon · 25-07-2014 3:30pm

jakdublin wrote: »

I want my bookmarks back at the top of the Safari page :-(

View - Show Favourites Bar ?

jakdublin · 25-07-2014 5:34pm

fjon wrote: »

View - Show Favourites Bar ?

Yeah, I thought that would do it but nothing seems to happen. Tabs not working either by the looks of things. I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow.

mackera4 · 25-07-2014 5:52pm

I got my invite today and am contemplating whether I should run it on my main machine (just back up the current setup) or will I just install it as a VM.
Think i'm more inclined to go with the latter option, just in case it turns out to be a right disaster.
Anyone else installed it using a VM? Opinions?

jakdublin · 25-07-2014 7:22pm

mackera4 wrote: »

I got my invite today and am contemplating whether I should run it on my main machine (just back up the current setup) or will I just install it as a VM.
Think i'm more inclined to go with the latter option, just in case it turns out to be a right disaster.
Anyone else installed it using a VM? Opinions?

I just partitioned my disk and installed it on that. Never thought of going the VM route but I guess it could save booting up into a separate drive every time you needed to switch over. Installing on your main machine is just asking for a world of hurt.

DubDJ · 25-07-2014 8:48pm

Just getting to have a proper look at Yosemite the last hour or so. First impressions are good, although when actually using it I find the look and feel to be similar enough to the old design. I don't think it's as big of a redesign as the photos make out.

Safari definitely looks better, speed wise it's about the same. I like the new dock but I think some of the icons could do with a change, not a fan of the new settings icon, feels like it's part of the old design. Small things like the new trashcan look great. The new notification centre is a big step up, look forward to third party additions to that.

Feature-wise I think you'll have to wait until it's released with iOS 8 to get the proper use from it, there's nothing too new without that. A lot of the apps look a lot nicer and simplified so overall it's a great revamp.

I've noticed a few bugs so far, had to disconnect and reconnect the wifi, login seems to be a bit buggy and is taking a good bit longer than usual, same as shutdown. Few more graphical glitches here and there but nothing major. It's running just as fast as Mavericks so far.

If you rely on your Mac for work or any pro-level stuff i'd stay away from 10.10 until it's officially released or maybe after one or two point releases. It seems fine overall and looking forward to unlocking the iOS 8 features.

jakdublin · 26-07-2014 12:39am

jakdublin wrote: »

Yeah, I thought that would do it but nothing seems to happen. Tabs not working either by the looks of things. I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow.

Actually, a quit of Safari got both the tabs and the favourites toolbar working. Cool.

LandonRicketts · 26-07-2014 7:19pm

My code said it was already expired when i went to redeem it. Think i'll just wait for the full release i'd say now

airuser · 26-07-2014 7:25pm

This afternoon had problems with mail accounts linking up gmail , took a while to get on line.. Other mail accounts ok.

Am using memory type apps. Yosemite does not to be as hungry in memory using.

One of my favorite Apps Flightradar24 working perfectly

Sad Professor · 26-07-2014 7:51pm

LandonRicketts wrote: »

My code said it was already expired when i went to redeem it. Think i'll just wait for the full release i'd say now

Did you try re-generating it?

http://9to5mac.com/2014/07/24/apple-how-to-fix-yosemite-public-beta-code-if-it-says-already-been-redeemed/

atavist · 29-07-2014 5:27am

fjon wrote: »

Installed it this morning and everything went flawlessly so far. Installation took about 25 mins on a 2013 rMBP.
I am liking the look of it so far, and only really had one issue - MplayerX crashes for me when going full screen.
I mistakenly thought Yosemite included the new Photos app, but I guess we have to wait a while for that.

Hi all. I'm totally new to this board. I stumbled here after googling the MplayerX Yosemite issue Fjon and I are having. I hope this helps.

I decided to submit an issue report on MplayerX's Google Code page. Putting the report together I relized I was not on the current version 1.0.22.1 (1785). I originally downloaded via the App Store and didn't realize MplayerX has left the Mac App Store.

After updating via MplayerX.org/downland.html the issue evolved. Now I no longer experience the White Screen of Death. In fact, I only have issues if I enter fullscreen using Command+F (which is still a big bummer as CMD+F is an intense automatic muscle memory thing for me). CMD+F fullscreen leads to a fullscreen frozen frame of the video and eventually either a force quit or a total crash of MplayerX.

If I enter fullscreen using view>fullscreen or using the fullscreen symbol in the top-right of a video, I have no issues. It appears in Yosemite that Apple is abandoning the top-right fullscreen symbol. Now the "stoplight" style maximize button in the top left of windows takes it's place when relevant. Obviously these changes have not made it the current version of MplayerX.

fjon · 29-07-2014 9:27am

atavist wrote: »

Hi all. I'm totally new to this board. I stumbled here after googling the MplayerX Yosemite issue Fjon and I are having. I hope this helps.

I decided to submit an issue report on MplayerX's Google Code page. Putting the report together I relized I was not on the current version 1.0.22.1 (1785). I originally downloaded via the App Store and didn't realize MplayerX has left the Mac App Store.

After updating via MplayerX.org/downland.html the issue evolved. Now I no longer experience the White Screen of Death. In fact, I only have issues if I enter fullscreen using Command+F (which is still a big bummer as CMD+F is an intense automatic muscle memory thing for me). CMD+F fullscreen leads to a fullscreen frozen frame of the video and eventually either a force quit or a total crash of MplayerX.

If I enter fullscreen using view>fullscreen or using the fullscreen symbol in the top-right of a video, I have no issues. It appears in Yosemite that Apple is abandoning the top-right fullscreen symbol. Now the "stoplight" style maximize button in the top left of windows takes it's place when relevant. Obviously these changes have not made it the current version of MplayerX.

Ah, thanks for that! It works for me too - now I only double click the screen rather than CMD+F. Sometimes I forget and do it the old way, but at least it's a fix.
I've also noticed the picture quality of MplayerX seems to be inferior to what it was. The screen looks kind of pixellated, but VLC looks fine.

The Black Oil · 17-08-2014 2:40pm

I created a partition and installed it. Couldn't get wifi going, at all. Went back to Mavericks full time.

DubDJ · 17-08-2014 3:09pm

The Black Oil wrote: »

I created a partition and installed it. Couldn't get wifi going, at all. Went back to Mavericks full time.

My wifi is buggy too, probably the biggest problem with Yosemite for me. I sometimes have to forget and rejoin the wifi network to get it going again.

DubDJ · 21-08-2014 7:48pm

Beta 2 is now available through the Mac App Store. New iTunes 12 too.

shanec1928 · 24-08-2014 8:23pm

is the click that was normally there when you turned up and down the sound gone for anyone else?

DubDJ · 24-08-2014 10:57pm

shanec1928 wrote: »

is the click that was normally there when you turned up and down the sound gone for anyone else?

Just noticed that about an hour ago. It's probably just disabled in system sounds. Battery was going dead so I didn't get to check.

Dr.Sanchez · 24-08-2014 11:07pm

shanec1928 wrote: »

is the click that was normally there when you turned up and down the sound gone for anyone else?

Yeah, thank god. Found it very annoying!

fjon · 25-08-2014 1:02pm

Press shift along with the volume buttons - does it come back then? It does for me.

shanec1928 · 25-08-2014 8:41pm

was disabled. they have also changed the sound of it.

banquo · 25-08-2014 9:15pm

Some slight connectivity issues with Safari on the latest Horizon UPC router. I can game online with regular nice low ping, but Safari having trouble loading pages on it.

Sad Professor · 25-08-2014 9:35pm

I hear those Horizon boxes are a real nightmare. I have enough problems with the piece of sh*t Technicolor they gave me. My mother recently called them while I was at work and the guy remotely screwed up my settings, oblivious to the fact that I might have disabled WiFi, DHCP and set up a DMZ on the router for a reason.

banquo · 26-08-2014 11:33pm

UPC have always cheaper out on hardware though. Compare a Sky TV box to a UPC telly box, no comparison.

fjon · 27-08-2014 7:55am

I'm seeing a few connectivity issues too and I'm not on UPC. Seems to be pretty common with this second beta

DubDJ · 27-08-2014 12:09pm

I was having issues with wifi from the first beta, I removed the wifi network from the list and rejoined and that seems to resolve the problem. Only thing is I've to do it evey time I have the problem. Second beta is more stable though so haven't had the same issues as much.

jrd · 27-08-2014 12:19pm

Anyone else finding some of the fonts too small? Would much prefer if they were bigger, even by a point or two. For example choosing Find in Safari, the font is very small. On a Macbook 13.

banquo · 27-08-2014 6:08pm

Fonts are the same size apparently, but Helvetica sort of "curls in on itself." I personally thing its a poor choice for the medium. Look at the lowercase 's' in History in the menu bar in Safari, there's almost no space in the gap between the middle and the top curl, hardly ideal at that font size. It's just not the best for small lowercase on screens, and I dread to think what it must be like on a non-retina mac.

Zcott · 29-08-2014 1:29pm

Finally got around to installing this on my Mac. Unfortunately it's a late 2008 MBP and I'm running it on a 5400rpm drive connected over USB...so it's fair to say it's not the fastest. I'm expecting it to run better when it's on my main internal SSD.

First thought: wow, this is really designed for retina displays.

frank gallagher · 30-08-2014 12:18pm

Is there an offical release date for this ?

Zcott · 30-08-2014 12:20pm

frank gallagher wrote: »

Is there an offical release date for this ?

Not yet, just 'fall'.

DubDJ · 30-08-2014 1:06pm

Zcott wrote: »

Not yet, just 'fall'.

But most rumours suggest mid-late October.

miralize · 01-09-2014 1:21am

Probably September 9th or 19th to coincide with the iPhone 6 & ios8

OS X 10.10 Yosemite - Public Beta - July 24th

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