Interesting.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 2:01am #1

It's about Timothy McVeigh. To me, it's so interesting. He was so unassuming. I agree with McVeigh so much on things and man was he smart, just read some of his quotes!!! The sad thing is, he really thought what he was doing was right. The man was shockingly misunderstood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7T5TqeIFGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYZC7pR1sE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V39yroSK8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4haqAuICAL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x10Cn4OskJI

eoin5 · 17-08-2007 2:15am

Most people think that what they are doing is right. Naive realism, reality tunnels and all that.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 2:17am

Bigotry? I remember when I was only a kid, and I was reading about Timothy McVeigh, he just incaptulated me straight away. I'm weird like that, always have and always will be. I get these weird sort of obsessions with people for no reason.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-08-2007 2:30am

estebancambias wrote:

I'm weird . .

Co-signs.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 2:32am

Owned. Lol

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 2:53am

Owned is the best phrase of all time.

JIZZLORD · 17-08-2007 8:45am

i know a girl whos father is called Tim mc veigh! lol

17-08-2007 9:31am

estebancambias wrote:

Bigotry? I remember when I was only a kid

Me too.

Gumbyman · 17-08-2007 12:03pm

There's a T McVeagh solicitor on Kildare St. I always chuckle when I see the name on the plate outside the door. Then speed up. And then for some reason I always think of Tony Clifton. I can't explain it.

Grolschevik · 17-08-2007 12:08pm

estebancambias wrote:

The man was shockingly misunderstood.

:eek:

It's hard to "misunderstand" a massive truck bomb...

Exit · 17-08-2007 12:22pm

Jesus, this is the same weird bloke who started the thread about being allowed to own guns in Ireland.

Duggy747 · 17-08-2007 12:28pm

Exit wrote:

Jesus, this is the same weird bloke who started the thread about being allowed to own guns in Ireland.

I think we're seeing a pattern here. I think the next time we hear of estebancambias will be in the papers or Sky News

biko · 17-08-2007 12:35pm

estebancambias wrote:

Just trolling AH again

Yeah

beans · 17-08-2007 12:42pm

Also, 'incaptulated' is my word of the day. I'm going to use it on the phone as often as possible, in as many different contexts as possible

Talliesin · 17-08-2007 12:44pm

I think this was meant to be humourous. I can't be sure because it wasn't funny.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 1:45pm

Why is it that when ever I make a thread I'm called a 'troll'? Do you people(not formal) not find this stuff interesting?

Exit · 17-08-2007 1:55pm

No, we're not potential serial killers.

Collie D · 17-08-2007 1:55pm

estebancambias wrote:

Why is it that when ever I make a thread I'm called a 'troll'? Do you people(not formal) not find this stuff interesting?

Not as interesting as the Special Branch may find you.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-08-2007 2:03pm

Grolschevik wrote:

:eek: It's hard to "misunderstand" a massive truck bomb...

LOL...

OP is OWNED again!.

Pherekydes · 17-08-2007 2:39pm

beans wrote:

Also, 'incaptulated' is my word of the day. I'm going to use it on the phone as often as possible, in as many different contexts as possible

It sounds good, but what does it mean? I can't find it in my dictionary.

OP needs to be watched, and not just by admins or mods.

SimpleSam06 · 17-08-2007 3:14pm

estebancambias wrote:

Why is it that when ever I make a thread I'm called a 'troll'? Do you people(not formal) not find this stuff interesting?

A Troll:

is someone who intentionally posts messages about sensitive topics constructed to cause controversy in an online community such as an online discussion forum

Also

a troll is an insult or accusation made against a poster... In usage troll is more of an insult like "jerk".

The first recorded incident of the term "troll":

You are so far beyond being able to understand anything anyone here says that this is just converging on uselessness. The really sad part is that you really believe that you're winning. You are a shocking waste of natural resources — kindly re-integrate yourself into the food-chain. Just go die in your sleep you mindless flatulent troll.

So why would anyone troll?

Some believe that trolls are "sad" in real life and hence troll on internet forums as a means of gaining attention they lack in the real world. Others feel that trolls merely partake in such actions for fun. Trolls are often seen as socially-inept and unable to communicate properly with another human being. It also could be stated that trolls merely believe the Internet is an anonymous medium, thereby protecting them from the real harm that would likely result from similar behavior in a face-to-face setting.

Corruptedmorals · 17-08-2007 3:40pm

He got a week ban from LC forum for trolling there...he might learn.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 4:32pm

I find this sort of thing interesting, however that does not mean I condone his actions. Do I have sympathy for him? Yes, but this man needed help not the death penalty(even though he wanted it)

petes · 17-08-2007 4:35pm

estebancambias wrote:

I find this sort of thing interesting, however that does not mean I condone his actions. Do I have sympathy for him? Yes, but this man needed help not the death penalty(even though he wanted it)

Wtf.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 4:40pm

What? He was right, America bombs a building in a country they can't even pronounce, and they call it foreign policy, McVeigh blows up a FEDERAL building and he's called a terrorist. It's hyprocrisy at it's worst.

Collie D · 17-08-2007 4:42pm

estebancambias wrote:

What? He was right, America bombs a building in a country they can't even pronounce, and they call it foreign policy, McVeigh blows up a FEDERAL building and he's called a terrorist. It's hyprocrisy at it's worst.

Shown your true colours now...serioulsy concerned about you now, man. Are you trying to rationalise the murder of almost 200 people?

psicic · 17-08-2007 4:45pm

beans wrote:

Also, 'incaptulated' is my word of the day. I'm going to use it on the phone as often as possible, in as many different contexts as possible

The best thing about 'incaptulated' is that you'll never use it in the wrong context, being as how it's not even a real word.

It either sound like a posh word for taking an evening stroll wearing a hat (in-cap-tulate) or to surrender to an enemy after sustaining unrecoverable losses and defeat is certain (incap-tulate).

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 4:48pm

Sorry, I actually did think a word 'incaptulated' existed. I've no idea where I got it from.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 4:52pm

Collie. No I am not attempting to rationlise McVeigh's actions, however in his mind, he was fighting a war against what he deemed an opressive goverment.

McVeigh said in a letter before he died in a letter that it was unfortunate that these people had to die, but it's what needed to be done. If you listen to any Bush interview after a major air attack, he says something along those lines. For example when America attacked Iraq in 2003, and many died, Bush said that in the long-term it will benefit the Iraqi's.

Collie D · 17-08-2007 4:58pm

Well we all know that Bush has the intellect of a chimp with a learning disability. And I honestly doubt that the US Air Force intentionally killed civilians...I know I've just opened up a major can of worms now. Apologies

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 5:05pm

Quote from McVeigh 'I thought what right did I have to come over to this person's country and kill him?

In relation to the two Iraqi's he killed while in Iraq in 1990.

estebancambias · 17-08-2007 10:41pm

Oh, just to further demonstrate the hypocricy that exists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pzb2GaZvCY&mode=related&search=

This is what I meant by double-standards. What makes the Waco massacre any better than what McVeigh did?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lch3AV9fhYU&mode=related&search=

Pherekydes · 17-08-2007 11:20pm

estebancambias wrote:

What makes the Waco massacre any better than what McVeigh did?

WTF?

Seriously, kiddo, whatever you're reading at the mo you need to stop. Read some Descartes or Aristotle or Plato or Cicero or something...

kowloon · 17-08-2007 11:56pm

I do believe i posted in the forum i was reading and not the forum i was meant to be posting in

Collie D · 17-08-2007 11:57pm

WTF was that about?

galwayrush · 18-08-2007 12:12am

Collie D wrote:

WTF was that about?

I'm lost, think i'll go to the bar for a drink instead.:D

estebancambias · 18-08-2007 12:15am

I think, I will stop posting serious threads. They're good for a while and then you become consumed by them.

Irish Wolf · 18-08-2007 12:29am

If you're looking for serious debate then AH is not the place to post these kinds of threads estebancambias..

Saying that, I'm not really sure where a thread about Timothy McVeigh would necessarily fit in on boards.. but there are dozens of forums available - and I'm sure one of them is more suited to this topic than AH..

estebancambias · 18-08-2007 12:33am

Perhaps politics? I think I will begin to partake in the more light-hearted ins and outs of AH.

Irish Wolf · 18-08-2007 12:47am

Hmm.. perhaps..

But make sure you've got something more than youtube clip to back up your argument..

:eek: just realised you've 500+ posts - carry on - you're doing a great job..

MooseJam · 18-08-2007 1:07am

is english a second language for you esteban ?

estebancambias · 18-08-2007 1:16am

Eh no. Esteban Cambiasso is the name of my favourite footballer, he is Argentinian and plays for Inter Milan. Why do you ask?

Kintarō Hattori · 18-08-2007 1:27am

incaptulated

> Clearly the OP meant encapsulated.

Edit- Looking at the OP's MySpace page it would seem to indicate that he is Ukrainian. Might explain the 'english'.

estebancambias · 18-08-2007 1:32am

Yeah, but I'm trying to think what made me think that encapsulated meant being interested in something.

MooseJam · 18-08-2007 1:39am

estebancambias wrote:

Eh no. Esteban Cambiasso is the name of my favourite footballer, he is Argentinian and plays for Inter Milan. Why do you ask?

it seems to me you come across as being foreign is all

estebancambias · 18-08-2007 1:41am

Yeah sorry my English can suck at times, and if not my spelling, my grammar.

Pherekydes · 18-08-2007 1:41am

eo980 wrote:

incaptulated
> Clearly the OP meant encapsulated.

Nope. More like engrossed or enraptured, though I think they're too strong. Maybe fascinated is best. Gripped? Spellbound, entranced?

Bed beckons.

Kintarō Hattori · 18-08-2007 1:49am

estebancambias wrote:

Yeah sorry my English can suck at times, and if not my spelling, my grammar.

No your english is very good, just sometimes it's a little broken. Never apologise for your english. Remember most people in this country (myself included) don't speak a second language.

Slow coach wrote:

Nope. More like engrossed or enraptured, though I think they're too strong. Maybe fascinated is best. Gripped? Spellbound, entranced?

Bed beckons.

Heh- Nighty Night Sir.

mikemac · 18-08-2007 8:16am

eo980 wrote:

Remember most people in this country (myself included) don't speak a second language.

Most people in this country spent 10 plus years studying Irish so you can't make a comment like that.
Topic for another thread though

Carry on OP

Kintarō Hattori · 18-08-2007 10:20am

micmclo wrote:

Most people in this country spent 10 plus years studying Irish so you can't make a comment like that.
Topic for another thread though

Carry on OP

Yes I can make a comment like that. Most people studied Irish, but can't speak it.

Wertz · 18-08-2007 12:20pm

micmclo wrote:

Most people in this country spent 10 plus years studying Irish so you can't make a comment like that.

LMAO. Are you serious? That's the funniest thing I've read on here in ages.

Anyway, this thread is surely more suited to conspiracy theories forum...Mc Veigh's story and background and his actions make for interesting reading and for a good indication of where domestic terrorism in the US may be headed, and there are lots of questions that remain unanswered or ignored in relation to his whole case....many answers to which, probably went to the 'chair with him.

In this man's eyes the federal government was a legitimate target, just the same way as any opposing military force is a legitimate target to the US military...how he arrived at those conclusions should worry people, because after Iraq finishes up (if ever), there's going to be one hell of a lot of pissed off military personel back on home soil with possible axes to grind...

Interesting.

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