death knell of the simpsons ?

Skyrim · 24-07-2011 11:59pm

As a natter of interest, did ye like the simpsons movie?

Richard Dower · 25-07-2011 12:03am

Skyrim wrote: »

As a natter of interest, did ye like the simpsons movie?

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 25-07-2011 1:19am

As another poster mentioned, the one where Bart starts a boyband with Millhouse, Nelson etc. That episode sums up the kind of pandering celebrity guest-star muck they've been peddling ever since. Awful.

jcf · 25-07-2011 12:05pm

Shame that this show has way more crappy episodes then good ones.

jcf · 25-07-2011 12:07pm

Skyrim wrote: »

As a natter of interest, did ye like the simpsons movie?

Garbage

Duke Leonal Felmet · 25-07-2011 4:58pm

Ally Dick wrote: »

The earliest Simpsons were the best. The storylines were simpler and it was far funnier. I lost interest around the time of Who Shot Monty Burns

Around the show's peak.

Duke Leonal Felmet · 25-07-2011 5:00pm

In my opinion, the show went downhill around 1998/99. The show is indefensible now, as it has been bad longer than it has been good. A terrible shame. Season 5 was simply perfection.

Yakuza · 26-07-2011 2:06am

phasers wrote: »

Armin Tamzarian.

Bang on the money. There has been the odd good one since (24 for example) but most have been bilge (esp the Ricky Gervais one *shudder*). The Irish one wasn't too bad, just a few years too late, in terms of its depiction of a booming economy. And Family Guy had beaten them to the punch!

KnifeWRENCH · 26-07-2011 2:50am

hotmail.com wrote: »

Season 11 was the first season where almost every episode was terrible.

I dunno, seasons 11 and 12 had a lot of crap but both had a few decent episodes too.

I'd say Season 13 was the first consistently awful one.

Skyrim · 26-07-2011 2:05pm

It's sad the way the show has turned out and i hope they are pulling the plug on it. Series 4-8 were great. Hank Scorpio and the episode with larry burns were brilliant.

allanb49 · 26-07-2011 2:29pm

Armin Tamzarian and the Tomacco episode where the two i think the Tamzarian one was a blip of things to come.

But the one thing i don't like is the constant rewriting and rejigging of time, homer and marge in college, homer starting a grunge band, it was a decent episdode but homer and marge married after school when marge got pregnent. Those ones really bother me.

There are still plenty of stories to tell, we know nothing about Marges father other than he was an air steward, why not look into that,

What about other secondary characters, i liked last season where they had Ned and Enda getting together,

Say what you will about family guy but they have developed and had the characters grow,

South Park as well at the start it was just a stupid cartoon with swearing but the writers have figured it can be topical and up to date, also they're not afraid to take the piss out of themselves,

Futurama, has any cartoon ever made you cry? Jurassic Bark. Something none of the others have ever done.

Each show has it's own strengths and weaknesses, but the simpsons has had it's moment time to let it go on and be remembered with dignity,

On another note, has anyone seen Archer yet? It's fantastic.

Benny_Cake · 26-07-2011 7:56pm

allanb49 wrote: »

Futurama, has any cartoon ever made you cry? Jurassic Bark. Something none of the others have ever done.

Gonna follow you off topic - that episode was on this evening and the ending is one of the saddest things i've seen in any TV show,you'd need a heart of rock not to be moved by it.Remarkable stuff,now if the current stock of Simpson's writers were to take note....

26-07-2011 8:09pm

allanb49 wrote: »

But the one thing i don't like is the constant rewriting and rejigging of time, homer and marge in college, homer starting a grunge band, it was a decent episdode but homer and marge married after school when marge got pregnent. Those ones really bother me.

Same as, I couldn't stand that one. What happened to Lisa being born during the 1984 Olympics?

Brian CivilEng · 26-07-2011 10:07pm

allanb49 wrote: »

Futurama, has any cartoon ever made you cry? Jurassic Bark. Something none of the others have ever done.

The Simpsons, at the end of Mother Simpson.

The Simpsons ended after Season 9. There have been no episodes since then, don't know what you all are talking about. There's no monorail here and there never was.

Yakuza · 27-07-2011 8:25am

abitofacomedian wrote: »

There's no monorail here and there never was.

Best.Episode.Ever.

Tipsy McSwagger · 27-07-2011 9:28am

Why was the Armin Tamzarian episode the death knell?

allanb49 · 27-07-2011 9:37am

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Why was the Armin Tamzarian episode the death knell?

It was mainly the absurdity of it where the writers felt we can say "hey Skinner isn't skinner" this guy is,

then just change it around at the last second so it never happened so to speak, have the real skinner sent off tied on a train never to come back.

If they had of said Skinner is now Armin Tamzarian then all well and good it's developing the plot and giving the character some flesh. The show would have been stronger for it i think, But instead they copped out.

They did something simaler in the sugar episode where it was banned and then at the last moment the judge unbanned it.

The writing just got lazy and any excuse was given to why this happened

Jelle1880 · 27-07-2011 10:37am

Actually they didn't, there's another newer episode where Bart blackmails Skinner about his real name.

allanb49 · 27-07-2011 10:40am

Is that not the one where lisa keeps getting the cats killed and she then just says at the end that i'll just call this cat snowball II and Skinner goes isn't that cheating, i don't know Mr Tamzarian.

Thats the only other reference i recall.

irishh_bob · 27-07-2011 11:56am

allanb49 wrote: »

It was mainly the absurdity of it where the writers felt we can say "hey Skinner isn't skinner" this guy is,

then just change it around at the last second so it never happened so to speak, have the real skinner sent off tied on a train never to come back.

If they had of said Skinner is now Armin Tamzarian then all well and good it's developing the plot and giving the character some flesh. The show would have been stronger for it i think, But instead they copped out.

They did something simaler in the sugar episode where it was banned and then at the last moment the judge unbanned it.

The writing just got lazy and any excuse was given to why this happened

perhaps they began copying family guy where any unrelated set up can be intersected with the main plot for no apprarent reason

allanb49 · 27-07-2011 12:07pm

Family Guy came out in 1999 this episode is from 1997 iirc,

Family guy have call backs to previous episodes all the time too,

Peter changing jobs, The relationship between Quagmire and Brian, Bonnie having the child,
How many jobs has homer had on a whim?

Standard Simpsons season now has at least;

1x Marge episode
1x Lisa episode
1x Bart falling in love
1x Homer gets a new job
1x sideshow bob
1x back in time homer and marge meeting
1x celeb montage/group

It's become a tired formula,

Family Guy may have the cut away jokes, but it also has the 30 minute episode where it's just brian and stewie in the bank, the multiverse episode with different animation styles, the Star Wars specials,

They don't seem as rigid in the structure as The Simpsons has been

Jelle1880 · 28-07-2011 8:05am

allanb49 wrote: »

Is that not the one where lisa keeps getting the cats killed and she then just says at the end that i'll just call this cat snowball II and Skinner goes isn't that cheating, i don't know Mr Tamzarian.

Thats the only other reference i recall.

Yep, that's the one.

Mc Love · 30-07-2011 8:26pm

Why dont they try and make the charachters older???

longshanks · 31-07-2011 1:55am

Yakuza wrote: »

Best.Episode.Ever.

I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook.....

KnifeWRENCH · 31-07-2011 2:57am

longshanks wrote: »

I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook.....

And by gum it put them on the map:

Ridley · 31-07-2011 4:34am

Fozzydog3 wrote: »

What episode for you , was the death knell of the simpsons being funny ?

D'oh-in in the Wind was the beginning of the noticeable difference for me but I maintain that the show has got some spark again since Season 21.

Brian? · 31-07-2011 6:56am

It was all down hill after Hank Scorpio,

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kksaints · 31-07-2011 9:19pm

The horse racing episode Saddlesore Galatica or something. Terrible episode with a stupid storyline and a horrible song in it.

take everything · 01-08-2011 12:37am

allanb49 wrote: »

It was mainly the absurdity of it where the writers felt we can say "hey Skinner isn't skinner" this guy is,

then just change it around at the last second so it never happened so to speak, have the real skinner sent off tied on a train never to come back.

If they had of said Skinner is now Armin Tamzarian then all well and good it's developing the plot and giving the character some flesh. The show would have been stronger for it i think, But instead they copped out.

They did something simaler in the sugar episode where it was banned and then at the last moment the judge unbanned it.

The writing just got lazy and any excuse was given to why this happened

You know, i don't think the Armin Tanzarian episode was the worst. There are a few memorable scenes in it.
I'm thinking stuff like "can i borrow your copy of swank?" and i think the absurdity of the plot was treated knowingly and ironically which made it palatable. I always thought it was a "meta"-ish take on a cop out rather than a cop out.
in that sense Martin Sheen's Skinner arbitrarily being carted out of town was kinda funny.
Maybe i need to watch it again.
The later episodes, of course, were unironically zany which is less appealing.

hotmail.com · 01-08-2011 1:06am

The Armin episode was still funny I felt.

The show stopped being funny/emotional after season 10.

allanb49 · 01-08-2011 7:57am

I'm not saying that it wasn't funny, but it was the point where the cracks where beginning to show.

death knell of the simpsons ?

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