death knell of the simpsons ?

Armin Tamzarian and the Tomacco episode where the two i think the Tamzarian one was a blip of things to come.

But the one thing i don't like is the constant rewriting and rejigging of time, homer and marge in college, homer starting a grunge band, it was a decent episdode but homer and marge married after school when marge got pregnent. Those ones really bother me.

There are still plenty of stories to tell, we know nothing about Marges father other than he was an air steward, why not look into that,

What about other secondary characters, i liked last season where they had Ned and Enda getting together,

Say what you will about family guy but they have developed and had the characters grow,

South Park as well at the start it was just a stupid cartoon with swearing but the writers have figured it can be topical and up to date, also they're not afraid to take the piss out of themselves,

Futurama, has any cartoon ever made you cry? Jurassic Bark. Something none of the others have ever done.

Each show has it's own strengths and weaknesses, but the simpsons has had it's moment time to let it go on and be remembered with dignity,

On another note, has anyone seen Archer yet? It's fantastic.

abitofacomedian wrote: »

There's no monorail here and there never was.

Best.Episode.Ever.

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Why was the Armin Tamzarian episode the death knell?

It was mainly the absurdity of it where the writers felt we can say "hey Skinner isn't skinner" this guy is,

then just change it around at the last second so it never happened so to speak, have the real skinner sent off tied on a train never to come back.

If they had of said Skinner is now Armin Tamzarian then all well and good it's developing the plot and giving the character some flesh. The show would have been stronger for it i think, But instead they copped out.

They did something simaler in the sugar episode where it was banned and then at the last moment the judge unbanned it.

The writing just got lazy and any excuse was given to why this happened

Is that not the one where lisa keeps getting the cats killed and she then just says at the end that i'll just call this cat snowball II and Skinner goes isn't that cheating, i don't know Mr Tamzarian.

Thats the only other reference i recall.

Family Guy came out in 1999 this episode is from 1997 iirc,

Family guy have call backs to previous episodes all the time too,

Peter changing jobs, The relationship between Quagmire and Brian, Bonnie having the child,
How many jobs has homer had on a whim?

Standard Simpsons season now has at least;

1x Marge episode
1x Lisa episode
1x Bart falling in love
1x Homer gets a new job
1x sideshow bob
1x back in time homer and marge meeting
1x celeb montage/group

It's become a tired formula,

Family Guy may have the cut away jokes, but it also has the 30 minute episode where it's just brian and stewie in the bank, the multiverse episode with different animation styles, the Star Wars specials,

They don't seem as rigid in the structure as The Simpsons has been

Why dont they try and make the charachters older???

allanb49 wrote: »

It was mainly the absurdity of it where the writers felt we can say "hey Skinner isn't skinner" this guy is,

then just change it around at the last second so it never happened so to speak, have the real skinner sent off tied on a train never to come back.

If they had of said Skinner is now Armin Tamzarian then all well and good it's developing the plot and giving the character some flesh. The show would have been stronger for it i think, But instead they copped out.

They did something simaler in the sugar episode where it was banned and then at the last moment the judge unbanned it.

The writing just got lazy and any excuse was given to why this happened

You know, i don't think the Armin Tanzarian episode was the worst. There are a few memorable scenes in it.
I'm thinking stuff like "can i borrow your copy of swank?" and i think the absurdity of the plot was treated knowingly and ironically which made it palatable. I always thought it was a "meta"-ish take on a cop out rather than a cop out.
in that sense Martin Sheen's Skinner arbitrarily being carted out of town was kinda funny.
Maybe i need to watch it again.
The later episodes, of course, were unironically zany which is less appealing.

I'm not saying that it wasn't funny, but it was the point where the cracks where beginning to show.