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Underdogs of 2014
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So which games released this year do you feel deserved more exposure/sales than the got and were unfairly dismissed?
Final Fantasy XIII-3
The game is going for a tenner in gamestop which indicates how poorly the game sold which is a shame because it's a contender for best RPG of the year. The Final Fantasy 13 name is commercial poison after the first game in the series which is a shame because FF13-3 couldn't be further from that game. The story is awful but really this game like classic FF is about the mechanics and systems and breaking them to your advantage. It's totally non linear and while the world us small it's well fleshed out and interesting. it's also secretly a pseudo spiritual successor to The excellent Valkyrie Profile and made by a lot of the same team. Even the time limit isn't too bad, a lot of the fun in the game comes from learning how to break the time limit so it doesn't become a problem.
Shin Megami Tensei 4
The other contender for RPG of the year. It's an excellent addition to the series that spawned Persona and has by far and away the best demon fusion system of any of the SMT games. It's so intuitive and streamlined and will hopefully be carried forward into Persona 5. It's also one of the most accessible games in the series being quite a bit easier despite a tough opening, the soundtrack is absolutely incredible as well. Unfortunately the game was released as a digital only title and also came out in Europe well over a year after the U.S. release and all the hype had died down. If you are a fan of RPGs then you owe it to yourself to play this wonderful game.
Wolfenstein New Order
Really this game is far better than it has any right to be. It's very reminiscent of old school PC FOS games with health packs and armour and even though it has regenerating health it only regenerates a tiny amount meaning you can't hide behind a wall and come back good as new. The shooting mechanics are over the top and lots of fun. The story is utterly daft yet really well written with great characters. The universe is well fleshed out with the same feeling of oppression you got from Half Life 2. For such a violent game it manages to show a lot of subtlety and restraint as well in its storytelling.
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Can FF XIII-3 be played in isolation or will you be utterly lost having not played #1 & #2? I have #1 looking at me for the last few months but the general consensus has been putting me off starting it.
The story is utter ****e, even if you had plaged ff13 and 13-2 you'd still be hopelessly lost. It's a game you enjoy for the gameplay and mechanics and that's where it excels.
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Tears to Tiara 2 is a really wonderful SRPG that I really hoped would get localized but I never thought would. It's a real shame not many people bought it even at a cheap price tag. I highly recommend it, it has a unique, very dark story with some unexpected twists and turns. It has a really slow start but the payoff if you stick with it is amazing
I heard it and the original are amazing. Got discounted heavily very early on playasia so must have sold like ****.
Seems Bayonetta 2 sold awful as well. More people need to play that game!
I've a feeling Alien Isolation also had similar poor sales, it was discounted heavily on play asia again and they were selling the Pre-order edition to boot. Definitely one of the more unique games this year in a sea of play it safe sequels that deserves much better.
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Tears to Tiara 2 is a really wonderful SRPG that I really hoped would get localized but I never thought would. It's a real shame not many people bought it even at a cheap price tag. I highly recommend it, it has a unique, very dark story with some unexpected twists and turns. It has a really slow start but the payoff if you stick with it is amazing
I Adore the game, I must get back into it,fc 4 distracted me
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Some more iOS games I really enjoyed be see no one talking about:
Framed
A very innovative puzzle title with quite big production values and loads of style. You move and manipulate comic panels around the screen so that the protagonist who moves on their can make it safely to the next page. Apparently it's Hideo Kojima's favourite game of the year.
The Rhythm of the Fighters
A pretty daft idea, SNK turned King of the Fighters into a rhythm action game but it's a damn fun rhythm action game. The game is now free and the free version provides quite a generous amount of content with the rest as DLC.
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Armoured Hunter Gunhound Ex
Great japanese indie game that finally got a release on steam. Plays very like SNES classic Cybernator. It looks great as well. Definitely worth your time if you want a game that was lays like a classic 2D game from the 16/32 bit era and not some indie that pretends to be authentic.
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dreamers75 wrote: »Batmans combat and Mordor is miles ahead of other types of games like (Bayonetta DMC Darksiders etc)
Ah here, just no! Even DMC is in another league to crappy batman button mashing.
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I like the Batman games, but saying the combat is better in them than Bayonetta or DMC is IMO like saying a Big Mac is better than a filet mignon :pac:
If you're spamming buttons and getting hit by 'unavoidable' attacks in Bayonetta, incidentally, you're playing it wrong
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Batman gets a pass for me because it's not all crappy combat. There's lots of variety and the stealth is excellent. But a whole game built around that combat like Shadows of Mordor is a game built specifically for me to hate.
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »I like the Batman games, but saying the combat is better in them than Bayonetta or DMC is IMO like saying a Big Mac is better than a filet mignon :pac:
If you're spamming buttons and getting hit by 'unavoidable' attacks in Bayonetta, incidentally, you're playing it wrong
Cmon now many of the later guys in it have attacks that cannot be blocked or avoided they are simply there to take health from you, DMC and Darksiders has the same issue.
Batman and Mordor altho simplfied it they made it dodgeable/avoidable.
I love all the games above but the 3 named have not really done anything to the genre in terms of combat, Batman and Mordor at least try.
Its bascially moved from Double Dragon to DMC to Mordor :pac:0 -
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Darksiders is just God of war combat which isn't that good. DMC has good combat until the crap colour coded enemies appear that ruin the combo system, however something like DMC 3 is far better. As for Bayonetta, blame the game instead of your own cackhandedness isn't valid since if you are good and aren't just mashing buttons you shouldn't be getting hit.
Saying the combat in Bayonetta is bad is just plain wrong I'm afraid. It's the perfect refinement of the combo based combat started with devil may cry. It's dodging skills and combo system give the game a great risk vs reward factor that encourages you to get flashier in how you play. I'd also put metal gear revengeance up there as well with its patry system that changes the dynamic of the combat since the best form of defense is pure offense.
Now Batman did do something new but all it really did was reduce combat to a rhythm game and made most things automatic. Mordor on the other hand just copied batman and brought its own broken elements into the mix.
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Sounds like you just don't understand Bayonetta and are playing it totally wrong.
I really don't know how you can say the combat isn't fluid.
Bayonetta and its ilk gives you basic moves and a combo system that is wide open and then let's the player fully experiment with it and go to town seeing how far they can take that combat system and the incredible depths. You don't unlock 'complicated' or more powerful moves, in fact you don't even need them to beat the game. What you are unlocking is another toy to add to the combat system, something you can throw into your combos and experiment more with. You aren't unlocking stronger moves, your unlocking more combat and combo options. Go play with them and see what craziness you the player can come up with.
If you are just going to use the same basic combo over and over again well then you just don't understand how Bayonetta should be played.
Batman in the other hand is mash buttons until you see a prompt and press the corresponding button combination to counter. Rinse, repeat and throw the odd batarang. And that's it for the entire game, all they do is add another enemy that is counter in a slightly different manner but all you are really doing is countering with a different button this time.
I really don't get your last comment either. Mordor and batman have not 'forwarded' the genre at all. They aren't even comparable, batman combat is its own thing compared to the highly technical combat of Bayonetta or metal gear revengeance. As for the genre being stale, well Bayonetta and metal gear revengeance prove totally otherwise and each have innovations that totally reinvent the genre and how they are played. Saying that they rely on control and upgrade systems just shows a complete misunderstanding of those type of games.
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »I like the Batman games, but saying the combat is better in them than Bayonetta or DMC is IMO like saying a Big Mac is better than a filet mignon :pac:
If you're spamming buttons and getting hit by 'unavoidable' attacks in Bayonetta, incidentally, you're playing it wrong
Batman was inventive and enjoyable but its combat is also rather simplistic. Its a nice feeling when you take out twenty bad guys without getting hit.
But comparing it to bayonetta is a bit mad...
Quite possibly on of the best action games I have played in years and once you begin to understand its combat system it really gives you a proper rush when your good enough to pull off massive combos against multiple enemies without getting hit....scary to watch some of the guys on YouTube who have mastered this game. Its all pure skill.0 -
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Well I didn't see any other complexity to the system than what was there. It's the same rock paper scissors nonsense that ruined the end game of DMC. Use one type of dodge for normal attack, another for weapons, cape for guys with shields. It reminds me a lot of the crappy combat in Sands of Time although it's a hell of a lot less annoying in Batman and it's a lot less strict about it.
So what am I missing which is making me play it wrong since what I was doing wasn't exactly stopping me from racking up massive 'combos' without being hit.
There's plenty of Japanese games I hate as well you know and Western games I love. I do like the Batman games I just think the combat is the weakest part of the game. However something like Mordor which is just Batman combat just doesn't do it for me.
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Think i mentioned in the thread on SoM that there was nothing wrong with the game itself as a whole, but the elements it "borrowed" from the others were tired if you had already played all the batman and AC games. It definitely had an impact on my enjoyment of it the whole time |I had a feeling of having done it before .... 10 times
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Sayonara Umihara Kawase - 3DS
The third game in one of the greatest platformer series finally makes it out of Japan. It gets totally ignored by the mainstream press and initially being released as a full price title on the digital does it no favours either. Graphically it looks awful just as every game in the series has but the game isn't about looks it's about using the games crazy grappling physics to get around stages in silly times and find secret warp stages.
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