Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

!! FRENCH - predictions, guesses and discussion.

«13

Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭Robcool2


    Basically what the title says.
    Is there any pattern in the exam papers showing that certain topics are due for the essays Q's (Q1 Q2,3,4)
    In the 2015 LC?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭d1234


    Irish water me thinks!
    Maybe binge drinking too due to the neknominate saga last year!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭freckly


    d1234 wrote: »
    Irish water me thinks!
    Maybe binge drinking too due to the neknominate saga last year!!

    Total guesswork but I also think something on alcohol because of necknominate.

    Maybe something about Facebook challenges in general.

    Water

    Emigration

    Politics

    They would be my gut feelings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    Anyone think about the SSM? Suppose its politics.
    Also war in france earlier this year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    For HL French for the written these are the topics Ive covered-
    Marriage/Gay Marriage
    Drugs
    Importance of foreign languages
    Violence in schools
    Smoking
    Relationships in families
    Water charges
    Gender Equality
    The environement
    Road Accidents
    Emigration
    Unemployment
    Terrorism

    Is there anything else that I should focus on??? Please help I'm hoping for a B or a high C


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭ThatsTheShtuff


    The Environment (with theme of Water possibly)
    Crime
    Drug Problem in Ireland
    The Habit of Drinking as Irish People
    Racism, Gender Inequality
    Terrorism (important to include something about Charlie Hebdo)

    I'm in LC in a grind school in Dublin which shall remain unnamed (we all know),
    and these are my teacher's predictions, she's pretty spot on every year :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    With that broad a range, not that hard to get at least one or two near the mark! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 MegLC


    I would think all of your guesses could be fairly right! :) I have literally no notes on crime or terrorism and cant find any either :( Would anyone be able to send them on? Thanks so much!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 laurajulietb


    These are my teachers predictions and she's pretty clued in:
    Water Charges
    Binge Drinking (Necknomination)
    Ebola
    Terrorism
    Could possibly be Ice bucket challenge/ social networks
    Maybe something on e-cigarettes (they love putting smoking on the paper)

    *side note: 2013 she predicted all 8 questions down to the horse meat scandal so she's usually spot on


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 GaryL0904


    Anyone have any good resources or notes on topics? I only have notes on water and terroism.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 orangey24


    Has anyone got notes on water charges?


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭AlfaJack


    Does anyone know where I can find the aural tape for 2003 and 2002?
    And also does anyone know of another websites where I can practice my French listening? I listen to french radio and cartoons but listening is what let me down in my mock so I really want to try to improve it! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    Does anyone have any nice sentences in the subjunctive that you could slip into an essay ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭AlfaJack


    OMGeary wrote: »
    Does anyone have any nice sentences in the subjunctive that you could slip into an essay ?

    Il est important que tout le monde fasse de son mieux pour résoudre ce problème.
    Il est temps que le gouvernement agisse.
    Il est important que tout le monde soit informé des dangers de....


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    AlfaJack wrote: »
    Il est important que tout le monde fasse de son mieux pour résoudre ce problème.
    Il est temps que le gouvernement agisse.
    Il est important que tout le monde soit informé des dangers de....

    Merci Beaucoup :):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 FoxScientist


    French: Probably some Recession, Obesity or Terrorism questions


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Patsy6546


    I'm thinking obesity and cyber bullying are both very topical subjects this year and maybe know some sport to mix in with obesity


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭Tet2015


    Patsy6546 wrote: »
    I'm thinking obesity and cyber bullying are both very topical subjects this year and maybe know some sport to mix in with obesity

    Many people are making predictions on events that have occured this year, didn't they finish the making of the papers in 2014?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Patsy6546


    Tet2015 wrote: »
    Many people are making predictions on events that have occured this year, didn't they finish the making of the papers in 2014?

    Yes they do but cyber bulling is still a huge thing amongst teenagers and so is obesity for the past few years


  • Registered Users Posts: 297 ✭✭oktplz


    Tet2015 wrote: »
    Many people are making predictions on events that have occured this year, didn't they finish the making of the papers in 2014?

    They try to focus on what will be a big event, for example The Gathering came up in 2013.

    Does anyone see the MarRef coming up?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    oktplz wrote: »
    Does anyone see the MarRef coming up?

    I think a good question to come up is 'should young people vote?' or along those lines. It's only something recent, so the Commission might not bother change the exam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 orangey24


    Has anyone got notes/vocabulary for marriage referendum they wouldn't mind sharing..


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    orangey24 wrote: »
    Has anyone got notes/vocabulary for marriage referendum they wouldn't mind sharing..

    My teacher thinks it could come up as a general marriage Q due to not lknowing the vote when the papers were printed but she said she thinks its more likely next year than this year but here ye go ( sorry no idea how to do accents but il try on this yoke!)

    Il existe tous les pays dans toutes les cultures- It exists in all country and culture
    On ne peut pas choisir avec qui on tombé amoureux- One cannot help who they fall in love with

    Je suis d'accord avec les homosexuals étant authorises á se marier entre eux- I agree with homosexuals being aloud to marry each other

    Ce n'est pas de nos affaires si deux personnes veulent se marier, n'importe quell sexe- Its none of our business if 2 people want to marry, regardless of sex

    Si dieu a vraiment crée l'homme, il a également crée l'homme homosexual- If god truly created man then he created the homosexual man

    Il faut changer les mentalities- Its necessary to change mentalitys.

    Hope this helps :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 orangey24


    My teacher thinks it could come up as a general marriage Q due to not lknowing the vote when the papers were printed but she said she thinks its more likely next year than this year but here ye go ( sorry no idea how to do accents but il try on this yoke!)

    Il existe tous les pays dans toutes les cultures- It exists in all country and culture
    On ne peut pas choisir avec qui on tombé amoureux- One cannot help who they fall in love with

    Je suis d'accord avec les homosexuals étant authorises á se marier entre eux- I agree with homosexuals being aloud to marry each other

    Ce n'est pas de nos affaires si deux personnes veulent se marier, n'importe quell sexe- Its none of our business if 2 people want to marry, regardless of sex

    Si dieu a vraiment crée l'homme, il a également crée l'homme homosexual- If god truly created man then he created the homosexual man

    Il faut changer les mentalities- Its necessary to change mentalitys.

    Hope this helps :D:D

    Thank you so much :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭vamos!


    I can't change them because I'm on my phone but there are missing or incorrect accents on quite a few words so be careful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    Does anyone have anything for terrorism?? I have the usual its a big problem etc etc but like nothing really SOLID...anyone?? :/


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 me1289


    Tet2015 wrote: »
    Many people are making predictions on events that have occured this year, didn't they finish the making of the papers in 2014?

    They can still change it. One year, horse meat came up on the paper and it had only happened in feb/mar, even though the papers were written in Oct/Nov


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    me1289 wrote: »
    They can still change it. One year, horse meat came up on the paper and it had only happened in feb/mar, even though the papers were written in Oct/Nov

    Do you think it was too late for them to change MarRef?


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 sdio


    vamos! wrote: »
    I can't change them because I'm on my phone but there are missing or incorrect accents on quite a few words so be careful.

    Also don't forget the e in homosexuel!


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 16 me1289


    Do you think it was too late for them to change MarRef?

    Possibly, I personally think they could ask something about politics in general, but then again they have the ability to do whatever they want!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 621 ✭✭✭if832uspx4eogt


    I think MarRef is too specific for the exam. Same with Ebola.

    But "the importance of voting" or "is voluntary work important" could.

    I hope something about Water Charges & Driving comes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EaSwe


    Horse meat was pretty specific (and recent) in 2013 when it came up.. so we really dont know

    Praying for MarRef though..


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 JohnDunne


    It says around 75 / 90 words but that's to be honest, so short! So is it ok to go over that or better to play it safe?

    Also if you do all the written tasks will your best be counted?

    Merci.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭BlueWolf16


    80 is bare minimum imo. You won't be faulted for writing more, but think logically - the more words your write the more mistakes you are likely to make. Doing a lot also means waffling around, and you don't want to bore your examiner -> 100-110 words for the first one, and then around 90 for the others is best I think.

    You will have loads of time during the exam, It's the shortest exam in the LC in my opinion. You can finish the paper in about 90 minutes, so take your time with everything, look over numerous times. And in general, I think a lot of students do all the written tasks because all will be marked, and then your best 4 are counted. Good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 JohnDunne


    Sound thanks!


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 49 sdio


    BlueWolf16 wrote: »
    80 is bare minimum imo. You won't be faulted for writing more, but think logically - the more words your write the more mistakes you are likely to make. Doing a lot also means waffling around, and you don't want to bore your examiner -> 100-110 words for the first one, and then around 90 for the others is best I think.

    You will have loads of time during the exam, It's the shortest exam in the LC in my opinion. You can finish the paper in about 90 minutes, so take your time with everything, look over numerous times. And in general, I think a lot of students do all the written tasks because all will be marked, and then your best 4 are counted. Good luck

    I'm just wondering, are you supposed to have introduction and conclusion paragraphs in your answers? I always end up writing twice as much as you need to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭Tet2015


    The real question is: Why are aurals being changed to last in the exam rather than first? (my school did it for mocks and will be doing it for real thing, they said it's mandatory)..


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Tet2015 wrote: »
    The real question is: Why are aurals being changed to last in the exam rather than first? (my school did it for mocks and will be doing it for real thing, they said it's mandatory)..

    JC does aurals before the written exam and LC does it after so there's enough CD players for every room. Not an issue with Irish since their Irish exam is on a different day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    I really hope we don't use our school CD players. Some of them might as well be a vibrating box, the quality can be so bad. It's really annoying at times when you wouldn't be able to understand them in English, never mind French.

    I suppose enough with my excuses lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭vamos!


    During the part of the CD which is in Irish and telling you that it's a French exam etc is your opportunity to raise your hand and report poor quality equipment or ask for the CD player to be turned up/down. One Section 1 starts the CD cannot be stopped for any reason. There may be nothing the supervisor can do but it can be noted in their report. I would imagine most schools have 'good' CD players which are kept in storage during the year so they don't get damaged. The ones the teachers in my school use are cheap and tinny but the big guns are brought out for the exams!


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭vamos!


    Also with regards to SSM as a topic- I would think it is too controversial. They wouldn't have known that it was going to pass by huge numbers at the time of printing exams. I can't see a direct question but I could be wrong! I would be more likely to predict something on young people and politics i.e voting or perhaps the of equality in general and it could be twisted towards marriage, age or gender. I would like to see necknomination or social network challenges and terrorism/ Charlie Hebo come up as the current and topical themes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭vamos!


    sdio wrote: »
    I'm just wondering, are you supposed to have introduction and conclusion paragraphs in your answers? I always end up writing twice as much as you need to.

    Intro, Valid and concise points and conclusion. Nothing has to be long but everything has to relate back to the question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭linguist


    Hi all,

    Posted here a fair bit last year. French teacher and examiner here.

    I understand people's desire to predict topics that may appear but it concerns me that some of you may not be accurately watching the trends on the paper. 2014 in particular was a very important year for that.

    The SEC is very anxious to avoid predictability and also to reward full engagement with the syllabus, in other words mastering a broad vocabulary and displaying the flexibility necessary to answer the actual question posed. Think about last year's written question on banning smoking. It was in fact a question about the merits of banning as opposed to an opportunity to rattle off a learned off essay full of smoking vocab. I can tell you that there was carnage on that question last year because very few candidates actually answered the question, i.e. is banning the only solution. Also, consider last year's lovely question on sport. Candidates were asked two things: talk about a sport you play and a 'sportif irlandais/sportive irlandaise' that you admire. The amount of people who didn't know the word 'sportif' at LC higher level and thus failed to address half of the question was high. Again, too much of a focus on looking to get away with a learned off essay and the SEC is now trying to deter that.

    With regard to the issues coming up here: terrorism/Charlie Hebdo and le mariage pour tous (which is what it is known as in France), I will be stunned if either appears in direct form - based on what I understand to be the current trend. Charlie Hebdo is a highly controversial subject. Seriously, there are many Muslim students in our schools who genuinely take umbrage at satirising their prophet. We (the majority) may take a diametrically opposed view and in any case there is no excuse for mass murder, but the SEC is not out to cause that level of controversy. Think about a question where you could bring it in - albeit in passing. I think a question, similar to last year's one on sport, on the general topic of reading might be a possibility. The stimulus might include the term 'les bandes dessinées' allowing you a chance to mention Charlie. But do a Charlie Hebdo/terror essay in response to your reading habits and you're dead:)

    On le mariage pour tous, women's equality came up last year so I would be surprised if equality came up two years in a row. Either way, just bear in mind that the SEC doesn't particularly want the head of the Mosque or Breda O'Brien on Liveline talking about students being 'forced' to write against their conscience. Now, I could be wrong, but look at the trend and it's towards questions that elicit a targeted rather than a learned off response.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Shan016


    For HL French for the written these are the topics Ive covered-
    Marriage/Gay Marriage
    Drugs
    Importance of foreign languages
    Violence in schools
    Smoking
    Relationships in families
    Water charges
    Gender Equality
    The environement
    Road Accidents
    Emigration
    Unemployment
    Terrorism

    Is there anything else that I should focus on??? Please help I'm hoping for a B or a high C
    I think you're fairly ok! 😂


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Casio123


    Any OL French predictions ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Jessica treacy 2015


    better examinations.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Mags95


    The Environment (with theme of Water possibly)
    Crime
    Drug Problem in Ireland
    The Habit of Drinking as Irish People
    Racism, Gender Inequality
    Terrorism (important to include something about Charlie Hebdo)

    I'm in LC in a grind school in Dublin which shall remain unnamed (we all know),
    and these are my teacher's predictions, she's pretty spot on every year :-)

    Did she mention anything on Ebola?- my teacher has predicted pretty much the same topics just including ebola.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭linguist


    These abstract topics focus on only one very small part of the syllabus - topical or social issues. How would one even frame a question on ebola? I mean, you're not going to get "Ebola - donnez vos réactions!"

    Racism - always a possible topic. But as I said in my earlier piece, the strong trend now is towards questions that require a very targeted answer. For example, quite a good question on racism might be a graph/pie chart indicating the number of students interviewed - probably in France - who only have friends from the same ethnic group. You would then be asked to comment on it. Now that's just off the top of my head. But you are most unlikely to get "Le racisme est un grand fléau dans notre société. Etes-vous d'accord?" because all that does is test memory as opposed to your ability to produce fairly spontaneous French on the day.

    Just remember all the perfectly ordinary topics that are on the syllabus and that need to be examined too. "Le monde entier parle anglais, on n'a plus besoin d'étudier le francais" is far more likely than something terribly specific and technical such as ebola. Frankly, as a very experienced teacher, I don't know where I'd start on a topic like ebola:)

    The twist on drugs might be the issue of decriminalisation. However, since the question of banning smoking came up last year, it would seem very similar. However, it is true that candidates last year did not deal well with the issue of banning so maybe...


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 sdio


    linguist wrote: »
    These abstract topics focus on only one very small part of the syllabus - topical or social issues. How would one even frame a question on ebola? I mean, you're not going to get "Ebola - donnez vos réactions!"

    Thanks for your advice... I was feeling quite nervous as I haven't learnt off anything specific for the exam. I did think it would be unfair to include such topics as Ebola and water charges, as it would benefit people who have learnt off essays instead of those who have a wide range of vocabulary and grammar to cover the syllabus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭linguist


    For all that people bang on about grind schools, the tiny number of people who know what's on this exam certainly don't work in them and I don't need the fingers on one hand to count the number of people working in them whom I've actually encountered as examiners:) Beware the hype!


  • Advertisement
This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement