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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Well the first problem comes int the first line.
    With a peer-reviewed scientific journal having published "loaded gun" (i.e. unreacted nano-thermite) evidence finally proving beyond doubt that World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2 and 7 were brought down in a series of controlled demolitions, here are a few more facts to consider.
    It wasn't a proper peer-reviewed journal, as it allowed the author of the paper to choose the people who were to review it. This has been covered by Diogenes before and you agreed it was a dodgy journal to my recollection.

    And then even if you ignore that and the other problems with the science in the paper (which we also covered), it still couldn't rule out other sources for the thermite.
    And even then thermite has never been used in a demolition.

    So I'd say that paper is very very far off for proving anything beyond doubt.

    Off to a very bad start this article.

    Edit: and reading more of this article, wow it is incredibly anti semetic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Leprachaun


    No,I'm pretty sure it was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    The Jews were bound to be blamed eventually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    It wasn't Muslims who stole elections by exploiting electronic voting machines that biased the results such that the odds for several swing states to swing as much as they did from the exit polls was 250 million to one against; it was George W. Bush

    Wasn't all the issue with mechanical paper ballots ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Holocaust Denial
    it was Jan Markiewicz, Wojciech Gubala, and Jerzy Labedz of the Jan Sehn Institute at Krakow (Auschwitz fraud),

    And antisemitism. And many many basic wrong facts. Hijackers alive? Nano Thermite? USS Liberty?

    The article links to such people as David Irving. And Stormfront!

    Classy not even trying to hide the racism.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I wonder what the "unnecessary part at the end" is.

    I'd wager it's a long ramble about the Jews being pure evil or some such nonsense.

    Edit: Found it.
    It isn't Muslims who have been expelled from countries on numerous occasions, it is Jews who keep getting kicked out as soon as the host gets wise to the fact that Jews' only loyalty is to their own tribe, rather than the host nation to whom Jews pose as an "ally".

    It wasn't Muslims who started a World War in 1914 in the hope that they could successfully launch a hoax about "six million" of their number being killed in order to obtain their own country and net a substantial fraction of global wealth in "reparations", failed, but also exploited the opportunity to annex and loot Russia and indulge in horrific blood-letting and oppression as a means of settling old scores with the Rus who had chased them westwards from former Khazaria; it was Khazar (fake) 'Jews'.

    It wasn't Muslims who blew up Francois Duprat's car killing him and maiming his wife, beat up Dr. Robert Faurisson at least ten times in which his jaw was broken / teeth knocked out / nearly killed several times / hospitalized for weeks and was persecuted in legal battles and had his home raided by police, tried to kill Ernst Zundel on at least three occasions in arson and pipe bomb attacks and had him and Germar Rudolf deported to Germany and jailed for years, beat Jurgen Rieger unconscious and blew up his car, beat up David Cole and threatened to kill him and his family, persecuted and beat Joseph Burg, attacked Frank Walus seven times and nearly killed him in an acid attack, forced Ivan Lagace to resign from his job as a crematory expert after endless threats from thugs claiming to be from the Jewish Defense League, perpetrated numerous terrorist attacks in France including sulfuric acid sprayed into faces / attacks with iron bars / baseball bats / gas sprayed / excrement strewn around, had historian David Irving spend 400 days in jail before being released on Appeal from a three year sentence which was for two speeches and a newspaper interview he gave 16 years earlier, had Dr. Frederick Toben jailed in Germany for ten months for using his Australian website to express his views, and who had dozens more jailed, fined, and financially ruined by character assassination and legal battles; it was Jews attempting to prop up their idiosyncratic brand of "truth" which profited them handsomely for decades.

    It wasn't Muslims who fabricated a hoax about "six million" of their people being "murdered" involving an evidence-free conspiracy theory about a plot to exterminate them in "gas chambers" which netted them - by way of a huge, illegitimate land grab - their own sovereign state, colossal profits in "reparations", hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign "aid" and "loan guarantees" and waiving / subsidizing of interest payments, etc, and now serves as their "sword and shield" to practice apartheid and kill and oppress their enemies with impunity; it was Jews.

    It wasn't Muslims who were caught red-handed forging fake "smoke" onto wartime photographs of Auschwitz; it was the Simon Wiesenthal Center, whose suitability as guardians of truth is comparable to a choice of Count Dracula as a maintainer of blood banks.

    It isn't Muslim mathematics that holds that the sum of a set of variables a + b + c + d + e... remains constant, e.g. at "six million", when several variables fluctuate downwards by, say, nearly three million and about half of that, in the absence of any corresponding upwards revision; it is financially and politically motivated Jewish "mathematics".

    It isn't Muslim physics and chemistry that holds that corpses may be rapidly and economically cremated with between a pound and a kilogram of coke per body when the firebricks of the cremation ovens are not even replaced after some 20,000 cremations (which is rather like expecting a Trabant to be capable of doing 100,000 miles non-stop at 100 mph on 100 gallons of gasoline and a couple of cans of motor oil); it is politically and financially motivated Jewish "physics" and Jewish "chemistry".

    It wasn't Muslims - or even the "Russian police" - who behave as if they authored The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion; it is International Jewry, and if it hisses like a snake and rattles like a rattlesnake, it isn't exactly benign.

    It is not the "international Muslim" who has much to answer for; it is the international Jew.

    The mainstream media’s conspicuous silence over the collapse of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory has clearly exposed them as "the dogs that didn’t bark".
    More holocaust denial and anti semetic nonsense.


    I particularly like the of the last links. http://www.protocolz.com/jtruth/interjew/
    Classy stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Seriously SFK, are you just trying to bait people here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    And those crazy Muslims admitting it an' all.

    There's so much wrong with that text I couldn't be bothered to even respond. SKG can you not see how bigoted that text is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭dloob


    Crikies the jews are responsible from everything from WWI and WWII to the assassination of JFK and 9/11 and the war in Iraq.
    My eyes are opened, this may explain where some of my socks are, stolen by the jew :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 feoil


    dloob wrote: »
    Crikies the jews are responsible from everything from WWI and WWII to the assassination of JFK and 9/11 and the war in Iraq.
    My eyes are opened, this may explain where some of my socks are, stolen by the jew :mad:

    I see this all over the net, if one criticizes Obama, one is anti black, if one criticizes Israel, one is automatically anti Jew. It would be helpful if people figured out the difference between Zionism and Judaism. One need not be Jewish to be a Zionist nor is it essential for Zionists to be Jewish.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    feoil wrote: »
    I see this all over the net, if one criticizes Obama, one is anti black, if one criticizes Israel, one is automatically anti Jew. It would be helpful if people figured out the difference between Zionism and Judaism. One need not be Jewish to be a Zionist nor is it essential for Zionists to be Jewish.
    No that article isn't criticising Israel.
    It's pretty much claiming all Jews are part of a vast global conspiracy.
    There's a difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    feoil wrote: »
    I see this all over the net, if one criticizes Obama, one is anti black, if one criticizes Israel, one is automatically anti Jew. It would be helpful if people figured out the difference between Zionism and Judaism. One need not be Jewish to be a Zionist nor is it essential for Zionists to be Jewish.

    Yeah
    SKG wrote:
    organized Jewry had tried to cast doubt on Frank's conviction by shifting the blame to a black man even though ritual murder is a known Jewish tradition
    SKG wrote:
    It isn't Muslims who have a reputation for perpetrating arson scams in order to claim off insurance companies as evidenced by any colloquial use of the term "Muslim lightning"; it is Jews as evidenced by the recognized term "Jewish lightning".
    SKG wrote:
    It isn't Muslims who have been expelled from countries on numerous occasions, it is Jews who keep getting kicked out as soon as the host gets wise to the fact that Jews' only loyalty is to their own tribe, rather than the host nation to whom Jews pose as an "ally".

    This is totally one of those Anti Zionist articles, and not anti Jewish article. Why the word "Jew" just never even appears in the original piece.

    Jesus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Wouldn't you chaps be better off trying to address or debunk (or whatever you want to do) the points made in the OP?

    Also, Diogenes, taking the name of the Lord in vain shows no respect for my religion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Kernel wrote: »
    Also, Diogenes, taking the name of the Lord in vain shows no respect for my religion.

    Ah Christ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 feoil


    King Mob wrote: »
    No that article isn't criticising Israel.
    It's pretty much claiming all Jews are part of a vast global conspiracy.
    There's a difference.

    I wasn't supporting the article, the author is guilty of the same mistake


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Kernel wrote: »
    Wouldn't you chaps be better off trying to address or debunk (or whatever you want to do) the points made in the OP?

    Seriously Kernel where do you start with an article that is basically saying the Jews are to blame for everything bad in history. It utter bull****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Ah Christ.

    Oi! :p
    meglome wrote:
    Seriously Kernel where do you start with an article that is basically saying the Jews are to blame for everything bad in history. It utter bull****.

    Maybe so, maybe so. However, shouldn't the individual points be discussed and shown to be bull**** if that is the case? I'd say the Warren Commission was utter bull**** but I doubt I'd get away with leaving it at that. ;) Also, are you saying that you are 100% sure that all of the points raised are 'bull****', if not then there is plenty to discuss there, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 feoil


    Have a look at this, I'm not standing over it so don't bate me over the head. It can be wildly inaccurate at times and the makers do have an agenda and it is two and a half hours long but reading the OP reminded me of it so I thought I'd put it up.

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ring+of+power&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US<img src=#


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    feoil wrote: »
    I wasn't supporting the article, the author is guilty of the same mistake
    And that article is clearly anti semetic. No one is talking about valid criticism of Israel.
    Kernel wrote: »
    Maybe so, maybe so. However, shouldn't the individual points be discussed and shown to be bull**** if that is the case? I'd say the Warren Commission was utter bull**** but I doubt I'd get away with leaving it at that. ;) Also, are you saying that you are 100% sure that all of the points raised are 'bull****', if not then there is plenty to discuss there, no?
    What's the point? Most of those claims are pretty much "A Jew is involved therefore it is a vast conspiracy."

    But yea the claim that Jews started WW1 to lead to Hilter's rise to power so thaat they could fake a holocaust to get their own country has so much merit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    meglome wrote: »
    where do you start with an article that is basically saying the Jews are to blame for everything bad in history. It utter bull****.

    You start by making arguements which prove the article wrong. Rather than scream racist and outrage I suggest people address the OP and by discussing it show how ridiculus it is.

    SKG, you know the score around here and you know there are dodgy links in there.

    I'm locking this for a while and when I reopen it it will just be to see if we can discuss the topic like adults. If it starts going crazy then it will be deleted and offenders will be infracted banned. Going nuts just to get the thread deleted is also not a good idea.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    King Mob wrote: »
    But yea the claim that Jews started WW1 to lead to Hilter's rise to power so thaat they could fake a holocaust to get their own country has so much merit.

    I'm not defending Israel either, they have plenty to answer for.

    But I agree with King Mob here. There's just so much wrong with this article that it angers me people even believe this stuff. The bigotry in it is disgusting. But if there is any specific area you want to discuss I'll join in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Israel attack a nation that gives them 3 billion a year in security aid? Right.


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