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UPC Ireland to re-brand as Virgin Media

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    UPC
    "United and Philips Communications" (UPC) was formed in 1995 between United International Holdings, Inc. (re-named UnitedGlobalCom in 1999) and Philips Electronic N.V.s to combine their cable holdings in twelve European countries and operate as a 50/50 joint venture. In December 1997, United acquired the remaining 50% of the ordinary shares held by Philips and the company was re-named "United Pan-Europe Communications N.V.". Following this acquisition, UPC became a nearly wholly owned subsidiary of United, except for approximately 7% of the stock held by a foundation to support employee stock option plans. In February 1999, UPC went public. Subsequently, United's ownership has reduced to about 53.3% (common class A stock), which are held through United's wholly owned subsidiary United Europe, Inc. As of end-March 2001, Microsoft Corp. has an interest of approximately 6.3% (common class A stock) in UPC.


    A brief summary of what happened here in Ireland -

    - In June 2005, Liberty Media International merged with UnitedGlobalCom, creating Liberty Global. UPC Ireland came into being after the acquisition of ntl/Cablelink and became part of UPC Holding B.V., Netherlands.
    - In December 2004, UnitedGlobalCom (United Pan-Europe Communications N.V. (UPC)/UGC Europe) acquired Princes Holdings/Chorus Communications for approx. €120 million from its majority shareholder Liberty Media International.
    - In Mar 2004, Liberty Media acquired the remaining half of Princes Holdings Limited from Independent Newspapers. Princes Holdings owned 100% of Chorus Communications (cable/MMDS franchises outside Dublin/Galway/Waterford).
    - In Jan 2004, Liberty Media acquired a majority stake in UnitedGlobalCom, Liberty Media International was later spun off (including UCG and other cable interests)
    - In 1998 TCI (Liberty Media) bought out UIH's (later UnitedGlobalCom) 25% share of Princes Holdings (Irish Multichannel). Rebranded Chorus Communications in 2000 following the acquisition of Suir Nore Relays and CMI Cable.
    - In 1992 Princes Holdings was formed as a 50:50 joint venture between Independent Newspapers (Independent Wireless Cable Ltd) 50% and US Telecommunications companies UIH (later UnitedGlobalCom) 25% and TCI (Liberty Media) 25%.
    - In 1999 Independent Wireless Cable (an Irish Independent Newspapers company) were awarded 7 MMDS licences as East Coast Multichannel. (They also held minority shareholdings in Cork Communications (Cork Multichannel) and Westward Cables (Westward Multichannel/Horizon Multichannel) when they were awarded 4 and 7 MMDS licences respectively).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Nope, sloppy posting of incorrect information that is freely available on the Internet. The P does stand for Philips.

    and Pan Europe.......:)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I think we're going round in circles on that one, with the rebrand happening on Thursday maybe it's time to start looking to the future rather than the past


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    On a related issue, talks between Liberty Global and Vodafone on a possible "asset swap" have ended without agreement. Virgin Media was seen as a possible target for Vodafone in the quad play market.

    http://advanced-television.com/2015/09/28/vodafone-liberty-global-end-asset-swap-talks/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    It's October 1st ...anything happen yet? Social accounts, web site etc. all still UPC this morning. Only sign of it is a PR Twitter account.

    https://twitter.com/VirginMediaIEPR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    Huge press thing going on this morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    "Each of our 500,000 customers will get a free 3 month pass to Virgin Mobile"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    New web site launches October 5th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Take a screen of the prices and services now, i have a feeling we'll see some sneaky increases somewhere :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    UPC's existing customers will get the new Virgin Media mobile service for free for three months and €25 after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Huge press thing going on this morning

    Richard Branson is over for it, full page article on him and the changeover to Virgin media in last Sunday's Business Post (he's on tomorrow night's Late Late Show also).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Website has a massive Virgin Media banner "sneak peak". Ugh too much red.

    Unlimited mobile for 25 EUR sounds good though.

    Richard Branson is on the Late Late Show tomorrow to promote the rebrand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭Explosive_Cornflake


    .

    Richard Branson is on the Late Late Show tomorrow to promote the rebrand.

    What a terrible show. I can't understand how anyone pays a TV Licence for that tripe of an advertising platform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Updates here.

    https://twitter.com/VirginMediaIEPR

    This account rebranded from UPC PR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    According to Magnus Ternsjö in an interview earlier on Newstalk they won't be adopting the Tivo box, the Horizon box is staying but will get a new user interface before the end of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Virgin media launches October 5 with Virgin Mobile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    as long as my current package doesnt go up in price then i dont care about this change. if it does go up then hello sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭GreatDefector


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    as long as my current package doesnt go up in price then i dont care about this change. if it does go up then hello sky.

    Hello freesat for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The installers/engineers must hate this sh1t. Every time there's a rebrand they're required to take the old box cover off the wall and replace it with the new one, even if the call-out was only a 30 seconds job where they fiddled with the cables a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    seamus wrote: »
    The installers/engineers must hate this sh1t. Every time there's a rebrand they're required to take the old box cover off the wall and replace it with the new one, even if the call-out was only a 30 seconds job where they fiddled with the cables a bit.

    It's a waste of time, let it naturally occur as the brand takes over.

    Anyone still with a cablelink or chorus branded equipment?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    A lot of the Cablelink wall taps were swapped for NTL or UPC branded ones when homes had digital installed. I know at least one home that had a Cablelink wall tap until three months ago though.

    There's loads of NTL branded wall taps out there, though the introduction of On Demand (which doesn't work on NTL and Chorus STBs) has meant that there aren't as many NTL STBs out there as there were before it was introduced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    Used to have an RTE Relays box on the wall nowhere near the tv, disappeared during the last renovations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    What a terrible show. I can't understand how anyone pays a TV Licence for that tripe of an advertising platform.


    The late late show is one of the most watched TV shows in Ireland and the two RTE channels account for the vast vast majority of TV viewing in Ireland.

    You are entitled to your opinion, but it bears up to no scrutiny whatsoever.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Plenty of other places to talk about the Late Late Show, this thread is about Virgin Media


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »
    Plenty of other places to talk about the Late Late Show, this thread is about Virgin Media

    Richard Branson will be on The Late Late Show on Friday Night in a pre-recorded interview. Is it still sponsored by Sky Broadband? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Dave..M


    icdg wrote: »
    A lot of the Cablelink wall taps were swapped for NTL or UPC branded ones when homes had digital installed. I know at least one home that had a Cablelink wall tap until three months ago though.

    There's loads of NTL branded wall taps out there, though the introduction of On Demand (which doesn't work on NTL and Chorus STBs) has meant that there aren't as many NTL STBs out there as there were before it was introduced.

    Make that two; I still have a cablelink one in one of the bedrooms :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    "We're working on something very special...
    We're making lots of changes and will be back very soon."


    Above now up on upc website.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    New site is now live.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Same stuff, just mobile added.

    Nothing else different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭pippip


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Same stuff, just mobile added.

    Nothing else different

    They have no half price bundles....thats a BIG difference. Just full price from the start.

    Considering SKY have a 12 month TV and Broadband half price deal this is a huge price difference!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Noticed they stopped taking orders for MMDS. Couple of weeks ago they were still offering it in Nenagh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Noticed they stopped taking orders for MMDS. Couple of weeks ago they were still offering it in Nenagh.

    They've already started switching off the service in S. Tipp (and maybe elsewhere), only 6 months remaining to licence expiry.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Rebrand TV spot is a bit cheesy - miniature UPC van, truck with Richard Branson driving, all accompanied by a Patrick Stewart-soundalike voiceover and topped off with the New Avengers theme tune!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    According to yesterday's Irish Times the voiceover actually is Patrick Stewart, oddly enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Magnus Ternsjö, CEO of UPC/Virgin Media’s operations in Ireland, has been appointed as CEO of UPC Hungary with effect from Nov 1st.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/virgin-s-irish-boss-magnus-ternsj%C3%B6-leaves-for-hungary-1.2388835
    http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/10/12/magnus-ternsjo-new-ceo-upc-hungary/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Dave..M wrote: »
    Make that two; I still have a cablelink one in one of the bedrooms :)

    Three. I've got the old cablelink one on the wall as well. Completely forgot it was there until I shifted some furniture.

    As for this rebrand, i'm currently on a special offer of tv and broadband for 25 euro a month. Dreading what the price of just the internet alone will be when I revert back next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    Magnus Ternsjö, CEO of UPC/Virgin Media’s operations in Ireland, has been appointed as CEO of UPC Hungary with effect from Nov 1st.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/virgin-s-irish-boss-magnus-ternsj%C3%B6-leaves-for-hungary-1.2388835
    http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/10/12/magnus-ternsjo-new-ceo-upc-hungary/

    Not surprising technical will Virgin media Ireland have a CEO? Much of executive work will be from London????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    Not surprising technical will Virgin media Ireland have a CEO? Much of executive work will be from London????

    No mention of a replacement CEO in anything I've read this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭mamax


    All this re-branding crap and nowhere on it's site does it tell their existing MMDS customers they will be left without service from April 2016 as they lost their licence for it !
    I phoned them this morning to confirm and after much over and back to her "supervisor" the lovely lady finally gave in and confirmed it to be true, but....she did confirm they were working on bringing fiber broadband to every part of the country..... what a load of bollocks lol
    So for all you MMDS customers be sure you jump ship in time, and for those of you that depend on MMDS maybe because you can't fit a satellite dish to your property and you have crap broadband from Eircon or the like then it appears you may be fecked !!!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Mind the language please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Would virgin media out of the goodness of their heart not return the license to local operators along with equipment/infrastructure, what happens the infrastructure? Will anyone take up the license?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Elmo wrote: »
    Would virgin media out of the goodness of their heart not return the license to local operators along with equipment/infrastructure, what happens the infrastructure? Will anyone take up the license?

    Spectrum will be auctioned off by Comreg for other uses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭JJ


    Now that Virgin Media has taken over, they've said they aren't supporting Twonky. I tried using it but it was too much of a headache trying to get it to work. Is there an alternative programme that can do the same thing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    Twinkly stopped supporting their pc server software ages ago. UPC/Virgin have little to do with it and haven't supported it in well over a year.

    Plex is a free alternative and windows media sharing works fine also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    Would virgin media out of the goodness of their heart not return the license to local operators along with equipment/infrastructure, what happens the infrastructure? Will anyone take up the license?

    The licences were issued by Comreg and are non transferable, they expire next April. The band is being reclaimed for more efficient nationwide use per a 2008 EU Commission Decision. The shutdown of MMDS is already underway.

    That being said there's nothing to prevent UPC/Virgin Media bidding for some of the spectrum at auction and using it for TV retransmission as they do now except under new technical conditions such as a new channelling arrangement for the band, narrower channel blocks (5MHz instead of 8MHz), adjacent channel interference conditions to/from other services using the band. This scenario is unlikely though.

    When the band comes up for auction, next year probably, the existing mobile operators will be keen bidders, for use by them as a capacity band (4G carrier aggregation) in combination with their coverage 700/800/900 bands. The existing MMDS mast sites will no doubt be used for mobile coverage if suitable (if they aren't used already).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Non-transferable unless the company is sold?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    Non-transferable unless the company is sold?

    The licence conditions or expiry date don't change in that circumstance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭mamax


    So should we assume that UPC/VM will just shut down everything in relation to mmds and more or less walk away ?
    It took me quite a bit of persuasion to get them to admit they had nothing to offer me instead !
    Name change means nothing, still a shambles of a company


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