Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Graph of real world 4G performance/speeds

  • 13-11-2013 11:35am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭




Comments

  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    The X-axis is concurrent users?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    The X-axis is concurrent users?

    yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    Here's the original source, well where I picked it up from :


    http://nbnmyths.wordpress.com/

    Refers to Australia but applies equally here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It's a generous graph, as you move it SLOWER according to key for signal quality.

    So for the number of users evenly spread over a full cell area, the median user speed is about 1/4 or less the suggested speed.

    It's also full duplex 20MHz + 20MHz. If you have 10MHz, it's 1/2, if you have 5MHz, it's 1/4.

    Very old news: 2009
    http://www.radioway.info/comparewireless/img10.html

    Here many users see under 0.5Mbps
    http://www.radioway.info/comparewireless/img11.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    bealtine wrote: »
    Here's the original source, well where I picked it up from :


    http://nbnmyths.wordpress.com/

    Refers to Australia but applies equally here

    No, I think here is much worse :)

    I thought the headline speed is 1/2 to 1/4 here, only 10MHz and 5MHz spectrum per operator.

    You really need 3 channels of 20MHz Duplex to get a graph as good as that on a real network, 120+ 120 MHz. Who has as much as that here?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    These are the conclusions of the mobile industry, granted it's from 2009 just after the LTE standards were frozen . It is however FROM the mobile industry:

    http://www.atis.org/lte/documents/Does%20LTE%20Do%20What%20It%20Says%20on%20the%20Box.pdf

    Explains the effects of the shared nature of radio networks, in this case mobile.

    (old hat for the user of this group but worth re-stating now we have all the "sooperfast nonsense in the media)

    Includes key points like this:

    "At any given instant, the cell’s spectral resource is shared between all active users" also has an excellent graphic on page 16 which shows why LTE will never delivers 30Mb/s or indeed any guaranteed speed...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Very interesting. Thanks OP


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭justforgroups


    bealtine wrote: »
    yes
    You mean the scale is individual users? Or is the scale per hundred, thousand, million...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    You mean the scale is individual users? Or is the scale per hundred, thousand, million...?

    individual users


Advertisement