The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2015

Spirit of 67 · 11-02-2015 1:59pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Are Meagher and McGrath just with the hurlers now?

I don`t follow the hurling but I reckon they might have been given a break seeing as their Season just finished due to the fixture pile up !

PlayByTheRules · 11-02-2015 3:00pm

Will Curran play full back for ye on Sunday with Barry out? Dublin have a near full strength team and are still experimenting, they'll miss Michael Carton who is banned for a few weeks but otherwise they should be quite strong. Danny Sutcliffe is a handful nowadays and Keaney, Paul Ryan + some newbies have good form. I fancy Tipp to win but could be close, Dubs hard to beat in league in Parnell Park.

TheNap · 11-02-2015 3:56pm

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

Will Curran play full back for ye on Sunday with Barry out? Dublin have a near full strength team and are still experimenting, they'll miss Michael Carton who is banned for a few weeks but otherwise they should be quite strong. Danny Sutcliffe is a handful nowadays and Keaney, Paul Ryan + some newbies have good form. I fancy Tipp to win but could be close, Dubs hard to beat in league in Parnell Park.

Carton is not suspended . Only applies to the Walsh Cup

evolving tipperary · 11-02-2015 4:38pm

Meagher did feature in the waterford cup?

evolving tipperary · 12-02-2015 10:14am

https://tipperary.gaa.ie/westside-column-february-14th-2015/
possible team selection...

at least three of the backline from the all ireland final missing

callaway92 · 12-02-2015 11:57am

50% off all Skoda branded Tipp GAA gear now on the official website. Obviously new sponsorship incoming. Nice prices here on the jackets etc though.

https://tipperary.gaa.ie/shop/

PlayByTheRules · 12-02-2015 2:59pm

Pity the young hurler of the year form last year is out, what a delight to watch that guy is. He cleaned Shefflin, Horgan, Walter Walsh and many others out of it last year. Any idea for how long he is out?

buggy beag · 12-02-2015 5:17pm

any idea who the new sponsors are?

tippspur · 13-02-2015 12:51am

Dublin V Tipperary live on TG4 Sunday @ 2 O Clock...looking forward to it.

tippspur · 13-02-2015 12:55am

buggy beag wrote: »

any idea who the new sponsors are?

Elverys/intersport

buggy beag · 13-02-2015 10:17am

cheers lad

Paddico · 13-02-2015 3:13pm

Hastings Cup shield final vs Kerry this Saturday

https://tipperary.gaa.ie/event/hastings-cup-21-football-shield-final-tipperary-v-kerry/

Spirit of 67 · 13-02-2015 8:09pm

Paddico wrote: »

Hastings Cup shield final vs Kerry this Saturday

https://tipperary.gaa.ie/event/hastings-cup-21-football-shield-final-tipperary-v-kerry/

Might head in , decent Under 21 team again this year . Minors playing Longford in Longford in the Leinster Minor Football League in Ballymahon also .

evolving tipperary · 13-02-2015 10:10pm

The Tipperary Senior Hurling Team to play Dublin Sunday is
1 Darren Gleeson
2 Cathal Barrett
3 Paul Curran
4 Joe O Dwyer
5 Kieran Bergin
6 Conor O Mahony
7 Paudi Maher
8 Shane McGrath
9 Brendan Maher
10 Denis Maher
11 Bonner Maher
12 James Woodlock
13 Bubbles O Dwyer
14 Seamus Callanan
15 Jason Forde

tippspur · 13-02-2015 11:49pm

Decent team,hope they get off to a good start to the League up in Parnell park,don't think we have a great record away to the Dubs.

evolving tipperary · 13-02-2015 11:55pm

Yes, the record up there is quite poor - will be tough - no sign of a dublin team yet...Liam Rushe has been playing full forward recently though....

oh wait here is the dublin team

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=949649858379875

citykat · 14-02-2015 1:20am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

The Tipperary Senior Hurling Team to play Dublin Sunday is
1 Darren Gleeson
2 Cathal Barrett
3 Paul Curran
4 Joe O Dwyer
5 Kieran Bergin
6 Conor O Mahony
7 Paudi Maher
8 Shane McGrath
9 Brendan Maher
10 Denis Maher
11 Bonner Maher
12 James Woodlock
13 Bubbles O Dwyer
14 Seamus Callanan
15 Jason Forde

That team will account for the best that Dublin has to offer. Is Lar injured/available?

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2015 1:26am

I'd imagine he is training away.... there is nothing to be found out about Lar at this stage of his career - time enough for Lar to get game time....

time to let others get some experience and stick their hands up for selection

OAOB · 14-02-2015 10:04am

Should we be expecting to see many new faces during the league do we think?
More depth in the forwards is needed and another midfield option is what I'd be hoping to uncover.

Ompala · 14-02-2015 10:19am

Strong team on paper at least, any word on Niall O Meara? Very unlucky last year and would be a real asset to the half forward line imo

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2015 10:21am

This young man has real character - had a stormer through such personal issues

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/cathal-barrett-keeping-the-fight-going-for-the-family-30991542.html

callaway92 · 15-02-2015 3:29pm

Christ, what is going on?. . . .

evolving tipperary · 15-02-2015 3:35pm

It's called the league!!!!

tippspur · 15-02-2015 3:41pm

Dreadful first half from Tipp,massive improvement needed after the break.

evolving tipperary · 15-02-2015 4:31pm

Allianz Hurling League Division 1A Tipperary 0-14 Dublin 2-20 (FT) Dublin goals by E.Dillon and L.Rushe

tippspur · 15-02-2015 4:38pm

That was an awful start to the League for Tipp,a hammering from the dubs is not good no matter what the time of year is,if it wasn't for bubbles the beating would be a lot worse.

evolving tipperary · 15-02-2015 4:59pm

Yet, it's hardly surprising. It has to be taken in context....Dublin got roasted by us last in the championship - they've been itching for this chance - on their own patch - a tight pitch - which doesn't suit us - first game of the year....

All I want from Tipp in the league is avoid relegation and give players experience- hopefully put together a more adequate half forward line...

I'd like to see Niall O'Meara, John McGrath, John Meagher and a few others get a run the next day...

I wouldn't be surprised if Galway beat us next time out either...

mr. bob dobilina · 15-02-2015 5:01pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Up the Premier! New thread for 2015 officially opened

Cmon THE CATS

evolving tipperary · 15-02-2015 5:05pm

Intelligent and witty, nice one, Bob! Best of luck with life!

buggy beag · 15-02-2015 6:17pm

out of the dubs,kilkenny,galway,cork and clare you would see the dubs as the weakest team so would have liked to have beaten them so not have to play a so called better team to be trying to avoid relegation.thought we were well off the pace today,i know its first game of the league but disappointing nonetheless

evolving tipperary · 15-02-2015 6:31pm

Not as bad as Eamon's first year in the league!!! Probably worse than last year's opener...but last year was some collapse in the second half...

We're improving in the league!!

Ah no, I won't fret yet...

I just want us to avoid relegation and not get tied up in the later stages of the league...so we can get set on the Munster championship early... - I think its vital we win Munster this year

The Lost Sheep · 15-02-2015 7:17pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

It's called the league!!!!

So. You need a good league to do well in championship and that's the case bar a few small exceptions in recent years.

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Yet, it's hardly surprising. It has to be taken in context....Dublin got roasted by us last in the championship - they've been itching for this chance - on their own patch - a tight pitch - which doesn't suit us - first game of the year....

All I want from Tipp in the league is avoid relegation and give players experience- hopefully put together a more adequate half forward line...

I'd like to see Niall O'Meara, John McGrath, John Meagher and a few others get a run the next day...

I wouldn't be surprised if Galway beat us next time out either...

Just avoiding relegation and adding a few players isn't good enough. Players and coaches wont accept that so why should we?

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I just want us to avoid relegation and not get tied up in the later stages of the league...so we can get set on the Munster championship early... - I think its vital we win Munster this year

Getting tied up in latter stages of League has never really hampered Kilkenny or other counties at the top so why should we be making excuses.

evolving tipperary · 15-02-2015 7:39pm

No, you don't need a good league - you don't even need to be in the top league. Look at Limerick last year - they've beaten us two years running from division 2...

In 2013 we were in the league final and were out in two championship matches..

In 2010 we didn't make the league final...

We've been in a lot of finals and lost them - I see it as needing to be fresh for munster - because we need the short route this year - straight to the final and we need the confidence of winning munster - we need to win a big cup and the munster is a bigger cup than the league - It's championship- and direct route for confidence and freshness

We've lost leaders - we need new ones - new lads to step up now. Avoiding relegation and finding players is good enough for me. We desperately need new half forwards and a midfielder to a lesser extent...- it's a priority - winning ball - we are too stuck to one game plan without two ball winning wing forwards.

The league is not the same for KIlkenny - the munster championship begins much earlier... - there is no real game for KK in leinster... - not for a while - that might change - but they haven't been tested in Leinster really apart from Dublin a few year ago - KK have been peaking for august nicely every year

What other counties are at the top? KK and Tipp and who? What's the point?

2013 was the year kk and tipp were tired as far as I can see - cork and clare went back into the bunch with a whimper...

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 12:09am

These lads had a few months prep on us:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2015/0215/680418-shane-durkin-delighted-with-dublin-display/

Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if we still have an issue with that last painful defeat we underwent. It will take a championship win or two to blow it out of the system. Winning Munster would be just the tonic to regain confidence...

citykat · 16-02-2015 1:08am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

No, you don't need a good league - you don't even need to be in the top league. Look at Limerick last year - they've beaten us two years running from division 2...

In 2013 we were in the league final and were out in two championship matches..

In 2010 we didn't make the league final...

We've been in a lot of finals and lost them - I see it as needing to be fresh for munster - because we need the short route this year - straight to the final and we need the confidence of winning munster - we need to win a big cup and the munster is a bigger cup than the league - It's championship- and direct route for confidence and freshness

We've lost leaders - we need new ones - new lads to step up now. Avoiding relegation and finding players is good enough for me. We desperately need new half forwards and a midfielder to a lesser extent...- it's a priority - winning ball - we are too stuck to one game plan without two ball winning wing forwards.

The league is not the same for KIlkenny - the munster championship begins much earlier... - there is no real game for KK in leinster... - not for a while - that might change - but they haven't been tested in Leinster really apart from Dublin a few year ago - KK have been peaking for august nicely every year

What other counties are at the top? KK and Tipp and who? What's the point?

2013 was the year kk and tipp were tired as far as I can see - cork and clare went back into the bunch with a whimper...

I think Galway/Dublin/Wexford might disagree with you there...

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 1:39am

How many Leinster championships have they won between them in the last 16 years? Kilkenny have won 13 out of the last 16....

So i'd have to disagree with them...

KK have 17 out of the last 25, I think... - that's ridiculous...

The Lost Sheep · 16-02-2015 11:58am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

No, you don't need a good league - you don't even need to be in the top league. Look at Limerick last year - they've beaten us two years running from division 2...

In 2013 we were in the league final and were out in two championship matches..

In 2010 we didn't make the league final...

We've been in a lot of finals and lost them - I see it as needing to be fresh for munster - because we need the short route this year - straight to the final and we need the confidence of winning munster - we need to win a big cup and the munster is a bigger cup than the league - It's championship- and direct route for confidence and freshness

We've lost leaders - we need new ones - new lads to step up now. Avoiding relegation and finding players is good enough for me. We desperately need new half forwards and a midfielder to a lesser extent...- it's a priority - winning ball - we are too stuck to one game plan without two ball winning wing forwards.

The league is not the same for KIlkenny - the munster championship begins much earlier... - there is no real game for KK in leinster... - not for a while - that might change - but they haven't been tested in Leinster really apart from Dublin a few year ago - KK have been peaking for august nicely every year

What other counties are at the top? KK and Tipp and who? What's the point?

2013 was the year kk and tipp were tired as far as I can see - cork and clare went back into the bunch with a whimper...

This talk of "being fresh"? Getting to a league final isn't going to draw so much that players will be completely disadvantaged going into their opening game in Munster
2 years doesn't prove your point. Too small of a timeframe and isn't proof of anything.

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 12:49pm

It's the two years where Kilkenny didn't win the all-ireland - and the winners of the ALL-IRELAND were not in the league final... - coincidence? Whereas most of the years Kilkenny are in league finals and winning it - but the leinster championship, due to its late start due to the group system, lends itself to the league more than those out first at the end of may in Munster

Kilkenny don't play until the end of June... - Tipp were out last year on the 1st of june... - if you're trying to peak for August/September that makes a difference....Clare playing Limerick on the 25th may this year - that's a long way out from September - it's hard to juggle fitness and form for that long - Tipp this year have the luxury of not being out until the 21st of June - i think that will make a difference to them this year - good break between league and championship - get out of the papers and limelight for awhile - good period of time to work on things and break out of the traps

That KK win leagues and championships is more so the unusual - but that's down to their freakish strength in player depth and standard of manager. I think it does prove a lot...

That's my take on it! You don't have to agree with me - but I don't agree that if your out early in championship straight after a long league that it doesn't make a difference - It's an amateur sport. It took Tipp a long time to play themselves into form last year - I think the extra time league defeat took a lot out of them - then they were out against limerick soon after and were beaten - confidence hit the floor

We're also different than the other counties - we've contested a lot of finals - we're in a different place - we don't need the confidence of making league finals as barometer - we know were we are - a free away from winning teh whole thing last year - we just need to find a few players - we should have no doubt about our quality and ability to compete with KK - we're close... - we don't have anything to prove regarding our credentials - we just want that cup....

Mantis Toboggan · 16-02-2015 12:51pm

Jesus terrible start to the new season. Even more worrying was that we sent out an extremely experienced team. Anyone get the stats? Serious amount of wides.

We need to see more young players getting an opportunity, first round of the league away to Dublin was the ideal scenario. Opportunity wasted.

buggy beag · 16-02-2015 12:57pm

ya last 15 years in munster cork have won 5 as we have,waterford have won 4 and limerick has won 1 so duno what point citykat is trying to make.munster is way more competitive than leinster

citykat · 16-02-2015 1:03pm

Louis Van Haal wrote: »

Serious amount of wides.

That's what killed ye yesterday. Wtf happened Seamie. The f****r couldn't miss against us last year.

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 1:12pm

Every player has off days - most of the team had an off day yesterday...

This Tipp tends to do this at times - switch off...

But, Dublin had this fixture lined up from a long ways out - we knocked them out of both league and championship last year... - this was a big game for them...for us? no.

Spirit of 67 · 16-02-2015 1:37pm

Hastings Cup Under 21 Football Shield Final : Tipp 0-8 Kerry 3-9 . Not a bad performance despite the score line , we were on top for a lot of the game . We were missing a good few of our better players due to Club under 21 games !

Well done to the Minors who beat Longford in the first round of the Leinster Minor Football League , interestingly in 2011 when we won the All Ireland we lost all 3 Leinster League games !

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 2:20pm

Tipperary hit 15 wides during the game but O’Shea believed better accuracy would come with more training and game-time.
He said: “I don’t know why the ball goes wide sometimes, but we haven’t done an awful lot of hurling – we’re only training one day a week, on a Wednesday, so maybe it’s that.
“We won’t panic yet, we’re disappointed, we wanted to win the game, we want to win every game, we’re not playing it down – but at the same time we have to go again. There’s another match next Sunday [against Galway] and that’s a good thing.”

buggy beag · 16-02-2015 3:17pm

would it be usual or unusual an intercounty team only training once a week this time of year?

citykat · 16-02-2015 3:24pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

How many Leinster championships have they won between them in the last 16 years? Kilkenny have won 13 out of the last 16....

So i'd have to disagree with them...

KK have 17 out of the last 25, I think... - that's ridiculous...

I'm looking at this year's Leinster not the last 16 years. i think there's very little between the top Munster teams and the top Leinster teams. KK might be favourites for Leinster but that doesn't mean they won't be tested or even beaten.

citykat · 16-02-2015 3:29pm

buggy beag wrote: »

would it be usual or unusual an intercounty team only training once a week this time of year?

Playing weekly league games permits very little training time. Lads are only recovering by the Wed. You want them fresh for the following weekend so there's no point training later in the week. I'd be surprised if lads aren't doing some training on their own though i.e. target practice for the forwards, ball wall for the backs etc.

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 3:40pm

The facts don't measure up to that - Kilkenny are in transition now - to an extent, not the same type of transition as most teams go through, as they still have a plethora of multiple All-Ireland winners in the team and squad.

You don't think that those 16 years of success does not give the rest of those counties baggage? Some of them are beaten before they take the field... - Dublin, Wexford, Galway, Offaly are not in the same league as KK - KK are going back by degrees - only because they've lost great players to retirement and old age - but it's not a case of these teams closing a gap with outstanding hurlers - both Wexford and Dublin are a long term project with outstanding young talents...

The toughest games KK got last year were from Tipp and Limerick? Yes?

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 3:42pm

College games this time of year is also a factor... - but it depends on where teams are - kk and tipp would be further back in their training because of the long seasons - club and inter county - they've just had...

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2015 3:57pm

Josh Keane looks to be a player?

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