Self locking barriers

RobinBanks · 03-08-2015 10:10pm #1

Thinking of installing a few pins of self locking barriers for managing feeding of calved cows. Was chatting to the lads from teemore today at the show and the Jordanian ones they sell are very impressive. The only other manufacturer of self locking barriers I know of is Wilson Agri.

Just wondering about pros and cons of both.

Reggie. · 03-08-2015 10:23pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

Thinking of installing a few pins of self locking barriers for managing feeding of calved cows. Was chatting to the lads from teemore today at the show and the Jordanian ones they sell are very impressive. The only other manufacturer of self locking barriers I know of is Wilson Agri.

Just wondering about pros and cons of both.

I believe they are very noisey

Deepsouthwest · 03-08-2015 10:41pm

Reggie. wrote: »

I believe they are very noisey

Absolutely Reggie, have them in one bay here, luckily it's in an outside yard. The noise is constant, would drive me mad anyway!

Justjens · 03-08-2015 11:11pm

Reggie. wrote: »

I believe they are very noisey

If you want noise get the Performance Steel ones!!

http://www.persteel.com/Barriers.html

I have a couple of the Jordanian ones on an outside farm and they have rubber stops on them and are considerably quieter, and don't seem to flex as much when I have seven cows locked.

The best system is the one that you can release a single animal if you have to in an emergency, if you let them all go you'll never get them back in again that day!

C0N0R · 04-08-2015 9:00am

Have them in one shed here and never noticed the noise off them at all!

annubis · 04-08-2015 9:23am

have jourdain ones and never notice them really, as someone said the rubber seems to stop them making too much noise

valtra2 · 04-08-2015 9:38am

What price are they

Dawggone · 04-08-2015 9:43am

valtra2 wrote: »

What price are they

Jourdain are €135/7 or per bay.

valtra2 · 04-08-2015 9:55am

The self locking barrier

Greengrass1 · 04-08-2015 10:02am

Dawggone wrote: »

Jourdain are €135/7 or per bay.

That's cheaper than the normal diagonal barrier here.
Rip off Republic

White Clover · 04-08-2015 10:05am

Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's cheaper than the normal diagonal barrier here.
Rip off Republic

Jourdain are french iirc.

skoger · 04-08-2015 10:07am

RobinBanks wrote: »

Thinking of installing a few pins of self locking barriers for managing feeding of calved cows. Was chatting to the lads from teemore today at the show and the Jordanian ones they sell are very impressive. The only other manufacturer of self locking barriers I know of is Wilson Agri.

Just wondering about pros and cons of both.

The ones we have are by agritubel, a french crowd. There's a company in Fermanagh sells them. Once you get them you'll never look back. You can AI, scan, TB test, dose and separate an animal with them. You'll rarely get a calf coming out through them and dirtying the silage

Greengrass1 · 04-08-2015 10:08am

White Clover wrote: »

Jourdain are french iirc.

Dawg is farming in France.
Iirc the Jordain barriers are not around 300e here

skoger · 04-08-2015 10:13am

Dawggone wrote: »

Jourdain are €135/7 or per bay.

Are you sure that's right? When we built our shed in 07 the self locking ones were an extra €100 or so on the plain diagonals (admittedly that was during the big grant when prices were high)

White Clover · 04-08-2015 10:14am

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Dawg is farming in France.
Iirc the Jordain barriers are not around 300e here

That's what I was saying.... €135 in France cause no overseas transport required

Dawggone · 04-08-2015 10:28am

Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's cheaper than the normal diagonal barrier here.
Rip off Republic

Agritubel are €115/7 and are much better because they are adjustable.

Bullocks · 04-08-2015 10:32am

Anyone chance making their own ?

Tyson Lannister · 04-08-2015 10:43am

have the latest model jourdain ones here. very happy with them, no noise due to the rubber stops. On other models i have seen sometimes the stops don't fall down and you have to try put it down by hand - disaster cow backs away. doesn't happen with mine.

Make sure you put the support in the middle though well down into the concrete, 7 big cows will make a hoop of it otherwise.

White Clover · 04-08-2015 11:02am

Dawggone wrote: »

Agritubel are €115/7 and are much better because they are adjustable.

Think they're the ones I have. Got them from dessie donohoe. I have 5 space ones along with 1.2m gate between slats and creep. Can stall an animal from either side if needs be

Muckit · 04-08-2015 1:02pm

C0N0R wrote: »

Have them in one shed here and never noticed the noise off them at all!

Do you wear ear muffs when using the chainsaw? Sorry...

DO YOU WEAR EAR MUFFS WHEN USING THE CHAINSAW?!!!

Justjens · 04-08-2015 1:55pm

Bullocks wrote: »

Anyone chance making their own ?

All the French barriers are made out of a fairly thin wall sprung steel so are light and strong. I have no centre anchor and seven cows can give them a fair shake when they see the vet coming!

If you were to make them out of blueband pipe the materials alone would cost the same as ready made ones.

RobinBanks · 04-08-2015 3:47pm

with the Jourdain barrier. Can you release a single animal from the barrier and keep the rest locked in. It would make live allot easier trying to get cows in and out of the shed at calving time and for dozing.

The main reason I am thinking of getting them though is to stop the bullying when feeding meal. I always supplement cows after they calf until ai'd but the older cows bully the younger cows back and prevent them from eating. If i can lock them in i can throw extra meal in front of thinner cows or less in front of fatter cows.

frazzledhome · 04-08-2015 4:28pm

We have them in a rented shed. Guy who owns farm installed them. I tried to test in them the first year as he said they were the dogs nuts. After about 20 cows we released them and ran through the race. They are an injury risk. They haven't been used since 160 of them idle, some waste of money

I can see a place for them in a span or two to ai or blood a cow but a full shed I can't see the value especially with the feed space lost.

Btw they are Jordain and very good to catch a cow and while they look light are in fact very strong with more danger of damage from the loader than the cows

Justjens · 04-08-2015 6:37pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

with the Jourdain barrier. Can you release a single animal from the barrier and keep the rest locked in.

Not a great picture, but the locking system works by turning the top bar 180*, there are notches pressed into it and then nylon stoppers (they normally just slide along the bar) on the moving part of barrier fall into them. To release a single animal you just have to knock up the nylon stopper.

Reggie. · 04-08-2015 7:05pm

Justjens wrote: »

Not a great picture, but the locking system works by turning the top bar 180*, there are notches pressed into it and then nylon stoppers (they normally just slide along the bar) on the moving part of barrier fall into them. To release a single animal you just have to knock up the nylon stopper.

Lovely little setup there lad

invicta · 04-08-2015 7:29pm

Have O Donovan locking barriers here,and would not be without them!
Everything,(testing,scanning,dosing,etc) is done in them!
Way safer,faster,and less hassle than the crush

rushvalley · 04-08-2015 8:08pm

Justjens wrote: »

Not a great picture, but the locking system works by turning the top bar 180*, there are notches pressed into it and then nylon stoppers (they normally just slide along the bar) on the moving part of barrier fall into them. To release a single animal you just have to knock up the nylon stopper.

What's the gate hanging off the outside of the shed for?

yellow50HX · 04-08-2015 8:48pm

Have 1 jourian one in a bay, they are the dogs bollox when dealing with suckers. Ideal for us as we do a bit of double suckling as I can bale up the cow till she gets used to the new calf. Also very good for handling the cows if they have mastitis or stuff. Also very handy for dosing as I can catch a few at a time.

I have the centres held with an angle bracket welded to the middle and bolted to the stub wall as there is a bit of flexing.

Being able to open one at a time is very handy but you need to be careful in case you catch your fingers. Sometimes I need to have to put a rope on it to pull it closed if the cow won't drop her head enough. Noise wise they can be a bit annoying but the rubber softens it a good bit and unless your next to the house all the time it's not an issue.

If you have cows then it's worth having one but put in in a bay with a gate next to it as sometimes you ll need it to get the cow in.

yellow50HX · 04-08-2015 8:49pm

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Absolutely Reggie, have them in one bay here, luckily it's in an outside yard. The noise is constant, would drive me mad anyway!

Are you living in the shed? Ha ha

Justjens · 04-08-2015 10:31pm

rushvalley wrote: »

What's the gate hanging off the outside of the shed for?

Built the shed for the autumn calvers and wanted the calves to have access to some grass over the winter so needed an opening for the calves.

The gate is my adaptation of a standard creep gate fixed into a frame bolted onto the outside.

It also has the added bonus that if I need to do something to the calves I hunt them outside, close the creep gate, bring them around the back of the shed into the collecting yard with the crush, and do my job without having to worry about the cows!!

Mad4simmental · 04-11-2015 8:40pm

Anyone ever buy a Single locking bull barrier? Extra wide for a bull. Gibney are the only crowd I can find that do them on the websights. Cheers

angusangus · 04-11-2015 9:28pm

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Anyone ever buy a Single locking bull barrier? Extra wide for a bull. Gibney are the only crowd I can find that do them on the websights. Cheers

Websights? Interested! Are these like binoculars for looking at computer screens from a distance?

Kovu · 05-11-2015 12:25am

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Now now....:rolleyes: I'll have to start calling you Angry4simmental!

whelan2 · 05-11-2015 6:38am

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Anyone ever buy a Single locking bull barrier? Extra wide for a bull. Gibney are the only crowd I can find that do them on the websights. Cheers

Am sure condons would make up one

greysides · 05-11-2015 10:29am

angusangus wrote: »

Websights? Interested! Are these like binoculars for looking at computer screens from a distance?

angusangus wrote: »

Disgraceful !should be banned

[mod]Try as I might, I can't find the humour in the first post and the second is threading on 'back-seat moderating' ground...... Beware yourself![/mod]

Go fcuk yourself,

Folks, we have a 'Report Post' facility to avoid this..................

angusangus · 05-11-2015 4:32pm

Seriously? Not on.

Do NOT respond to this on thread. PM me if you want to discuss it.

Kovu.

Nekarsulm · 05-11-2015 4:37pm

Well that escalated nicely

angusangus · 05-11-2015 4:39pm

angusangus wrote: »

Seriously? Not on.

Do NOT respond to this on thread. PM me if you want to discuss it.

Kovu.

But I taught it was ok to say this?
Very sorry

Kovu · 05-11-2015 4:45pm

angusangus wrote: »

But I taught it was ok to say this?
Very sorry

To a mod warning on thread? No. And did you not read ''Do not reply to this on thread''?

Reggie. · 05-11-2015 6:29pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Well that escalated nicely

Dammit missed it

Mad4simmental · 05-11-2015 7:19pm

Got it here anyway. €188+vat. Fully adjustable heavy steel.

https://www.donedeal.ie/feedingequipment-for-sale/standard-and-opening-cattle-feed-barrier/10563400?sv=true

Reggie. · 05-11-2015 8:25pm

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Got it here anyway. €188+vat. Fully adjustable heavy steel.

Some neck on that fella

Kovu · 05-11-2015 8:31pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Some neck on that fella

*Looks at neck*

*Looks at Reggie*

Reggie. · 05-11-2015 8:32pm

Kovu wrote: »

*Looks at neck*

*Looks at Reggie*

Ah been called worse

Mad4simmental · 05-11-2015 8:41pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Some neck on that fella

Big boy allright, (not mine). Our lad was in the other week with the cows and I noticed his head would be lucky to fit out between two of the normal feed spaces!

tanko · 05-11-2015 8:52pm

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Big boy allright, (not mine). Our lad was in the other week with the cows and I noticed his head would be lucky to fit out between two of the normal feed spaces!

I thought you had gotten urself a proper bull:pac:

RobinBanks · 09-02-2016 4:58pm

Anyone with the Jourdian barriers find that they bend with force from 7 cows pushing against them? They seem very light and I was wondering would extra support in the middle be required.

I am thinking of getting them but concerned they will bend them.

pedigree 6 · 09-02-2016 5:44pm

RobinBanks wrote: »

Anyone with the Jourdian barriers find that they bend with force from 7 cows pushing against them? They seem very light and I was wondering would extra support in the middle be required.

I am thinking of getting them but concerned they will bend them.

There is extra support in the middle of them. There's a short stub tubular bar middle ways on them that you are supposed to sink in the concrete or attach to the wall. I welded a plate on mine in the middle and bolted it through the stub wall.

Tyson Lannister · 10-02-2016 12:55am

RobinBanks wrote: »

Anyone with the Jourdian barriers find that they bend with force from 7 cows pushing against them? They seem very light and I was wondering would extra support in the middle be required.

I am thinking of getting them but concerned they will bend them.

have them with a couple of years, make sure you put the support in and they won't budge it.

Count Mondego · 13-08-2016 9:49pm

Lads,

Putting up a five bay suckler shed with will have a creep and calving pens with a crush as well. I'm wondering are locking barriers any use? They're not majorly expensive but I find it hard to find a practical use for them. I'll probably be going with O'Donnell's for the pens, gates and barriers. I looked at their barriers and I don't think they'd be that easy to lock when cows are feeding. Jourdain look a neater job. Anyone have O'Donnell ones or opinion on them in general?

Icelandicseige · 13-08-2016 11:19pm

Count Mondego wrote: »

Lads,

Putting up a five bay suckler shed with will have a creep and calving pens with a crush as well. I'm wondering are locking barriers any use? They're not majorly expensive but I find it hard to find a practical use for them. I'll probably be going with O'Donnell's for the pens, gates and barriers. I looked at their barriers and I don't think they'd be that easy to lock when cows are feeding. Jourdain look a neater job. Anyone have O'Donnell ones or opinion on them in general?

Have jourdain barriers here. Can't fault them at all other than they don't get much use.

Self locking barriers

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