Shot count is also something to be taken into consideration.

Whereabouts in the country are you?

Sorry my bad, I thought when power levels were being mentioned it was a PCP.

Enda17 wrote: »

Hi
I was wondering if someone could help me out?
I've been researching about a rifle I'm interested in its a weihrauch hw97k.
But I've noticed that you can purchase a uk version (sub 12ftlb) and a standard version( above 12ftlb) does any1 know what versions are in ireland?
Thanks

I had a 97K and upgraded it with a more powerful mainspring kit, it was putting out 17lbs but it would jump like a donkey making accuracy difficult. As another fella mentioned it also ****ed up the Simmons scope that was on it. If you wanted a better option it might be Theoben Eliminator or Webley Patriot if you were set on the springer / gas ram piston air rifle.

The HW97 is one of the best air rifles on the market.
Anything you would buy here generally would be full power 18ft lb's as dealers don't import the sub 12ft lb ones.
There is no problem keeping a scope zeroed on the HW97 if you use a decent Dampa mount and a proper air rifle scope.
Most rifle scopes are not designed to cope with the jolt from a spring rifle.

I have seen the 97's do pellet on pellet groups with the Hawke air max scopes fitted @ 50 yards without any issues.

To get the best from this gun you will need to use a decent pellet like the JSB diablo 15.89gr or the air arms diablo field 18gr

With either of the above you should get a near perfect group at 50 yards for head shots on rabbits.

Enda17 wrote: »

Anyone know the maximum effective range using the weihrauch hw 97k in .22 with 14.3 grain pellets on small game .ie a rabbit or a crow/magpie.
Also anyone know the best pellets to use in this rifle for accuracy and hunting.
Thanks

In that round, the rifle will be bunny capable out about 40m - but being a good enough marksman with a springer to manage that consistently yourself is a whole other ball game. You'll need some means of rangefinding accurately and you'll need to know your drop charts insideout as well as having a good consistent hold and good trigger discipline.

Makes them an outstanding rifle if you're into your technical shooting, but if you just want to point and shoot then you'd be better off with a PCP or a 22LR and CB rounds.

Best pellet options are match grade JSB's, RWS, Diana, Crossman.. etc.. expect to pay ~€5-8 for a tin. I'm a huge fan of the JSB Exact Jumbo for .22cal air.

Generally you will need to try several brands in order to see which will work best for you. Usually a lighter pellet will perform better in a spring powered air rifle, under 15gr. I can also recommend JSB Exact Diablo.

As others have said, accuracy will be more important than range; 40m with a sub 12 ft/lb air rifle would be the very maximum in my view, assuming you are in the zone and weather conditions allow i.e. no wind. You will also need to be able to accurately measure your range at these distances.

Enjoy, and safe shooting.

For accuracy, I have found the Webley Accupell to be the best in my hw97K.

Although not the best for killing rabbits. Grand for crows though.

My 97K has begun to reduce in power in recent months. Might get the spring replaced.

Enda17 wrote: »

I'm looking for an accurate pellet but also one that can put down small game at 50-60 yards.

with a springer?... I'm afraid you're dreamin'. A PCP on a calm day with a good operator will manage about 1" at that range once you've had time to zero. On a cold shot you'd be doing very well to hit a 2" target.

You need a 22LR or similar for live targets at that range, anything less is disrespectful.

Enda17 wrote: »

Using the right pellet and being comfortable with shooting the rifle what groups would i be expecting at 50-60 yards?

About 3" edge to edge if you're a far better shot than most.

Enda17 wrote: »

At the minute the pellets I use are bsa interceptors 15.43 gr hollow point pellets. Are they a good choice?

Utter sh*te - those things wouldn't group better than an inch at 20 yards let alone 60.

The only pellets that fly right at those ranges are Diabolo's.
HP, wadcutters, points.. all useless well before half that.

Enda17 wrote: »

Sorry about all the questions im just new to the airgun field
Thanks again

You'll get there, you're expecting a bit much from both yourself and the rifle at the moment though.

@BackFire try a service i.e. clean and re-lube internals, check seals.

Hi

I know it is an old post but this is a good link : https://www.straightshooters.com/ourtake/

Also an affordable crono : Combro CB625..works well even if a bit dodge putting it on the end of the rifle...



I have one an i am happy to lend out to cool people.


My HW97 .22 is <12ftlbs ...i got this year 2018....

When i bought it I presumed , (my mistake) , that i would be getting the 18ftlbs version.
becasue of the FAC i had to get ,


But alas, it seems it depends where you buy it, i would suggest making the dealer provide some details about the gun , becasue i
am sure they do not check .


I am not looking to try and get a tuning kit for my gun to bring it up to 15ftlbs using V-mach kit but it is proving difficult to get any info on how to do this in grannie state ireland....no problem in UK.

I have emails were sent out to all places hoping some will reply.

If not i will find a way.:)

Its a load of balls here , ireland is a long way behind other countries with regards to air-rifles.... even <12ftlbs needs FAC i have to try and repeat that to myself to believe it... and expect to provide gun training cert and lots of info before you get approval from the local Super...


Would like to upgrade to more power GAMO next year , they have some really nice rifles.....30ftlbs and above...PCP






The rifle is great , sub 1 inch group at 25 and 35 yards is not problem.... i will so be giving a go at strip down/clean/ reassemble and crono it again.







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I'd contact Steve from this site http://www.air-rifle-tuning.com/v-mach/How_to_Buy.html

Blackpool airguns seem to be out of stock at the moment. I've a V mach kit in a HW80, it'll easily group an inch at 55 yards. With the HW97 don't use any of the washers with the kit, they add power, but also recoil. 

With just the kit fitted it'll be smoother than it is at 12 ft/lb

With a tuning kit fitted you should be able to hunt out to 45 yards in calm conditions and with a ton of practice.