Formula 1 2014: Round 3 - Bahrain Grand Prix

Zcott · 05-04-2014 1:42pm

Unusual mistake from Vettel and he's out of the session with 20 minutes remaining.

Gillespy · 05-04-2014 2:37pm

Zcott wrote: »

Unusual mistake from Vettel and he's out of the session with 20 minutes remaining.

Just watching it now. At least he found a travel trap although he had already stalled. Cars are a real handful with the wind not helping.

Good battle between the Force India lads for P3 in qualifying.

05-04-2014 4:21pm

What's the point of Sutil?

Myrddin · 05-04-2014 4:24pm

Is it just me or do the cars sound a lot better, especially on board, than they did before?

Top Dog · 05-04-2014 4:41pm

No RedBull in the top 10 for tomorrow (once Riccardo's penalty is applied) :eek:

Top Dog · 05-04-2014 4:42pm

Top Dog wrote: »

No RedBull in the top 10 for tomorrow (once Riccardo's penalty is applied) :eek:

Looks like I have to correct myself - Vettel 10th because of Riccardo's penalty :rolleyes:

05-04-2014 4:43pm

Vettel :P

Top Dog · 05-04-2014 4:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the point of Sutil?

A good question - what the heck was he at?

Top Dog · 05-04-2014 4:44pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Vettel :P

Got there before you

:D

Top Dog · 05-04-2014 4:44pm

Myrddin wrote: »

Is it just me or do the cars sound a lot better, especially on board, than they did before?

Dunno if they're sounding better - but I'm definitely warming to them more with all the different noises we can now hear.

Myrddin · 05-04-2014 4:48pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Dunno if they're sounding better - but I'm definitely warming to them more with all the different noises we can now hear.

They seem to be more prominent in the on-board view, they sound great actually

Top Dog · 05-04-2014 5:10pm

Have to feel sorry for Riccardo after all that. Huge effort, but a penalty through no fault of his own

Myrddin · 05-04-2014 5:11pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Have to feel sorry for Riccardo after all that. Huge effort, but a penalty through no fault of his own

His grid penalty was stupidly harsh

V.W.L 11 · 05-04-2014 5:13pm

I bet Nico Hulkenberg is delighted he didn't join Lotus now:D i just wonder how long before crashtor Maldonado starts calling the lotus team the stuff he used call Williams,that man aint worthy of an F1 drive regardless of the 2012 Spanish grand prix and his personal backers!

lolie · 05-04-2014 5:35pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Have to feel sorry for Riccardo after all that. Huge effort, but a penalty through no fault of his own

He really has impressed so far this year, closer to vettel than i thought he'd be.
Kobayashi doing a good job as well, only a few tenths of Sutil and the Lotus's.

Jordan 199 · 05-04-2014 7:27pm

Should be another Mercedes 1-2 tomorrow. That is some car they have this year.

V.W.L 11 · 05-04-2014 7:48pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Should be another Mercedes 1-2 tomorrow. That is some car they have this year.

anyone but red bull,this time next year anyone but Mercedes :P

Frankie Lee · 05-04-2014 9:10pm

I reckon it will turn out to be the most dominant car since the Ferrari F2004, I don't mind most of the rule changes this season and I welcome the change of fortune for Vettel but it will be a rubbish season if we have to look at 1-2s for Mercedes every GP.

V.W.L 11 · 05-04-2014 9:15pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

I reckon it will turn out to be the most dominant car since the Ferrari F2004, I don't mind most of the rule changes this season and I welcome the change of fortune for Vettel but it will be a rubbish season if we have to look at 1-2s for Mercedes every GP.

I'd rather a mercedes 1-2 every week than to watch vettel the finger boy gesturing to the camera after every pole and win

Myrddin · 05-04-2014 9:39pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

I reckon it will turn out to be the most dominant car since the Ferrari F2004, I don't mind most of the rule changes this season and I welcome the change of fortune for Vettel but it will be a rubbish season if we have to look at 1-2s for Mercedes every GP.

At the very least, at least both Mercedes drivers can take the fight to each other

05-04-2014 10:18pm

Myrddin wrote: »

At the very least, at least both Mercedes drivers can take the fight to each other

Vettel's not that bad, I'm sure he'll catch to Ricciardo soon.

Myrddin · 05-04-2014 10:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Vettel's not that bad, I'm sure he'll catch to Ricciardo soon.

smellslikeshoes · 05-04-2014 10:51pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

I reckon it will turn out to be the most dominant car since the Ferrari F2004, I don't mind most of the rule changes this season and I welcome the change of fortune for Vettel but it will be a rubbish season if we have to look at 1-2s for Mercedes every GP.

The gap between Merc and the rest is actually bigger than it ever was for the F2004. What made the Ferrari so dominant was the gap never decreased over the whole season (also insane reliability). This is something I doubt Merc will be able to do

They are a good bit ahead but they need to make hay while the sun shines because Red Bull's development record in the second half of seasons is downright terrifying.

Frankie Lee · 06-04-2014 12:56am

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

The gap between Merc and the rest is actually bigger than it ever was for the F2004. What made the Ferrari so dominant was the gap never decreased over the whole season (also insane reliability). This is something I doubt Merc will be able to do

They are a good bit ahead but they need to make hay while the sun shines because Red Bull's development record in the second half of seasons is downright terrifying.

Red Bull already have a superior aerodynamic package but with Renault power they won't be able to close the gap except for places like Hungary or Suzuka.
The difference in sector 3 in the Malaysian qualifying comparison between the two cars was astonishing.

SuperTortoise · 06-04-2014 1:15am

A lot of rules were brought in to stop red bulls dominance, except now they have been replaced by Mercedes!
Red bull will close the gap if Renault step up their game, if not they'll use a Merc engine next season which should see things get interesting.

What did Riccardo get his penalty for? i did'nt catch it in commentary.

06-04-2014 1:20am

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Red Bull already have a superior aerodynamic package but with Renault power they won't be able to close the gap except for places like Hungary or Suzuka.

Two pretty different tracks there :P

As I've said for a few years now, Mercedes in all their guises (BAR/Honda/Brawn/Mercedes) have consistently failed to develop a car through a season. That's the question mark they still have over them.

EvilMonkey · 06-04-2014 1:25am

SuperTortoise wrote: »

A lot of rules were brought in to stop red bulls dominance, except now they have been replaced by Mercedes!
Red bull will close the gap if Renault step up their game, if not they'll use a Merc engine next season which should see things get interesting.

What did Riccardo get his penalty for? i did'nt catch it in commentary.

Mercedes are hardly stupid enough to give red bull an engine that will have them dominating again next season.

SamAK · 06-04-2014 1:28am

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

What did Riccardo get his penalty for? i did'nt catch it in commentary.

The unsafe pit release back in Malaysia! Harsh.

SuperTortoise · 06-04-2014 1:46am

EvilMonkey wrote: »

Mercedes are hardly stupid enough to give red bull an engine that will have them dominating again next season.

The gap will be much smaller by that stage, nothing stays a secret in F1 for long, money talks and red bull have plenty of it.
There were rumours late last year of them going with Ferrari engines for 2014 which obviously fell through but for those rumours to come about i would presume they were at least in negotiations for it to happen. besides Mercedes already supply half the paddock, what's one more!

Going Strong · 06-04-2014 9:47am

SuperTortoise wrote: »

The gap will be much smaller by that stage, nothing stays a secret in F1 for long, money talks and red bull have plenty of it.
There were rumours late last year of them going with Ferrari engines for 2014 which obviously fell through but for those rumours to come about i would presume they were at least in negotiations for it to happen. besides Mercedes already supply half the paddock, what's one more!

They might also wait until 2016 and get a Honda customer deal - McLaren have exclusivity for next year only. Renault came out before the season started and made Lotus their "Official Partner for 2014 and beyond" which suggests they don't expect Red Bull to stay with them much longer.

smellslikeshoes · 06-04-2014 12:07pm

All this talk of them leaving Renault is bonkers. Sure, they have made a lemon this year but how many championships have been won with Renault power. Unless something crazy happens like another manufacturer decides to start making F1 engines RBR aren't going to give up what's essentially a Works engine deal for a customer one.

Lets not forget that even though the Merc engine is better than the Renault this year it's the close relationship of being a works team that has meant the Mercedes team has been able to build their car around the inventive turbo placement.

_rebelkid · 06-04-2014 1:12pm

10 points to the first person to spot what's wrong here.

Gillespy · 06-04-2014 1:16pm

Hamilton should be where Nasr is.

SuperTortoise · 06-04-2014 1:17pm

The thing that seems a bit off for me is Red bull's public comments about how bad the Renault engine is, that leads me to believe that they have already persued this internally and have made no progress which forced them to badmouth them publically.

I think the car has pace, Riccardo was 7 or 8 tenths off the Merc yesterday but that still leaves them as best of the rest even with an underperforming engine, i'd just like to see someone put up a real challenge to the Mercs before it's all over!

MJ23 · 06-04-2014 1:17pm

What channel is the race on?

SuperTortoise · 06-04-2014 1:20pm

^ Sky F1, BBC have highlights i think.

Myrddin · 06-04-2014 1:29pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

^ Sky F1, BBC have highlights i think.

It'll be on Setanta too

Max_Charger · 06-04-2014 2:33pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

^ Sky F1, BBC have highlights i think.

Ya BBC had the genius idea of running the F1 highlights at the same time as MOTD 2 tonight. :rolleyes:

SamAK · 06-04-2014 2:39pm

Expecting good things from Perez today (hopefully). And also looking forward to seeing Alonso stuck behind Massa.

Plus, we get to see Vettel having to fight through the pack. Woo.

jos28 · 06-04-2014 3:13pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

A lot of rules were brought in to stop red bulls dominance, except now they have been replaced by Mercedes!
Red bull will close the gap if Renault step up their game, if not they'll use a Merc engine next season which should see things get interesting.

What did Riccardo get his penalty for? i did'nt catch it in commentary.

I have it from a reliable source that they have already been in talks with Merc for next year

lolie · 06-04-2014 3:17pm

jos28 wrote: »

I have it from a reliable source that they have already been in talks with Merc for next year

EJ is that you?

Damien360 · 06-04-2014 3:21pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

A lot of rules were brought in to stop red bulls dominance, except now they have been replaced by Mercedes!
Red bull will close the gap if Renault step up their game, if not they'll use a Merc engine next season which should see things get interesting.

What did Riccardo get his penalty for? i did'nt catch it in commentary.

Wheel not fitted correctly during pitstop in last race. Fine plus drive through penalty plus 10 place loss on starting grid for this race. Qual in third but bumped to 13.

_rebelkid · 06-04-2014 3:23pm

My furiously typed notes from Bernie's interview with Brundle on Sky.

Damien360 · 06-04-2014 3:27pm

There has been one team dominance for years. Ferrari with Schumacher, red bull with vettel, now Hamilton (according to uk presenters

). Rosberg will give him a run until team orders come in to effect. No point denying it will happen.

Goes to show the rumour that they stopped all development on last years car and forgot the season half way through with an eye on this years car, had truth in it. (That seems like a ridiculously long sentence)

ItsChecoTime · 06-04-2014 3:41pm

Hoping Sergio can convert a great qualifying into some good points, come on Checo

Kevski · 06-04-2014 3:57pm

Setanta would want to get their act together and get F1 on immediately.

christy c · 06-04-2014 4:08pm

Brilliant start from Massa

Jordan 199 · 06-04-2014 4:09pm

Some start by Massa

Great start by Lewis too.

Eglinton · 06-04-2014 4:11pm

Anyone else unable to hear the cars on Setanta? Is it ok on Sky?

christy c · 06-04-2014 4:12pm

Eglinton wrote: »

Anyone else unable to hear the cars on Setanta? Is it ok on Sky?

Yes ok on sky

Formula 1 2014: Round 3 - Bahrain Grand Prix

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