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The Football / Soccer Tips Thread v2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Man City DNB 11/10 - Large Stake

    Man City +1 Corner Handicap Evens - Medium Stake

    Man City -1 9/2 - Small Stake


    Lech Poznan, Kayserispor, Man City 6/1 - Small Stake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Requested odds on Vargas to score midweek :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    have you a bet365 account to take advantage of the free bet gavin?

    could use the free 50 bet no risk bet on city


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Yardie


    Headshot wrote: »
    Requested odds on Vargas to score midweek :)

    keep us informed on that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭gudede


    Didn't look into the match tonight yet but my instincts are

    If City play like they did last year, which is defend depend and bore us all to sleep I can see them walking out winners. But if they try to keep the ball like they did this season and pin Chelsea back (Chelsea be playing like they did for their last two matches) I think Chelsea will catch them on the break.

    Chelsea will have Luiz suspended for this game (Big plus for Chelsea, big negative for the lads who are backing him to be booked :)) so they will have to play Bosingwa RB and Ivanović at CB. Chelsea nornally this year play with a high defensive line and if they do this against City then City can ping the ball over the full backs all night long and hammer Chelsea. Terry's pace...ie lack of... and the lack of defensive ability of Bosingwa mean's they can't play this system. So much of this game will depend on the tactics of it (like most games :o), but like Barca the other night Chelsea need to win and most of all can't lose tonight.

    Also Sturridge will be out to prove a point to Man City for not playing him and forcing him to leave the club.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    Yardie wrote: »
    Here's a good article about Chelsea's performance against Valencia

    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/06/chelsea-valencia-villas-boas-deep-tactics/

    It is similar to tactics used in Newcastle game. Now city are superior side to Valencia and Newcastle but if Chelsea can restrict the space given to Silva and Aguero in final 3rd then City could be in some trouble. Sturridge Mata and Drogba are in decent form so wouldnt be surprised to see Chelsea nick a goal or two on the break.

    Also looking back at City away in big Champs league matches and away to Liverpool, they haven't found the answers. AVB will be looking for Romeu to do a similar job on Silva as Leiva did at Anfield. Whether Romeu is up to task is unknown but recent performances suggest he may be a real player.

    Given all of this I would steer clear of any bumper stakes on City.
    A few comments (also including reaction to Gudede post):

    1) If Bosingwa will start then I don't think he is a good fit for a deep defensive line like against Valencia. He is actually a player who would do better with higher line, because he has a good enough recover pace. Tell him to defend around his box and you've got a problem.

    2) Mikel vs Romeu - very important aspect for me. If former will start, there's no way I will back Chelsea; he's just a too big of liability for me at least.

    3) When attacking City have a tendency to play their 4 midfielders very narrow, sometimes it looks like a "magical square" used by Brazilian teams (2 DMs and 2 CM/AMs ahead of them) with full backs overlapping. Sturridge does a good job defensively against his full back, but Mata doesn't. If Mata starts on the left and Micah Richards will be a full back on his side, I can see City having a big impact here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,303 ✭✭✭Lasagna Diarra


    Lech Poznan -1

    Man City DNB

    Man City -1

    Lech's opponents are terrible away from home - http://www.soccerway.com/teams/poland/zaglebie-lubin-ssa/

    As for the other game, I still think AVB is a poor coach, I saw parts of the game vs Newcastle, and Newcastle were unlucky not to score, Chelsea with AVB have been thrashed by Man Utd and Arsenal, not to mention their 2 defeats vs Liverpool. Whereas Man City have thrashed Man Utd and Spurs away from home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    Lech Poznan -1

    Man City DNB

    Man City -1

    Lech's opponents are terrible away from home - http://www.soccerway.com/teams/poland/zaglebie-lubin-ssa/

    As for the other game, I still think AVB is a poor coach, I saw parts of the game vs Newcastle, and Newcastle were unlucky not to score, Chelsea with AVB have been thrashed by Man Utd and Arsenal, not to mention their 2 defeats vs Liverpool. Whereas Man City have thrashed Man Utd and Spurs away from home.
    1) Lech should win it clearly... but I still would reccomend to wait before their starting XI would be announced, Bakero (their manager) lovex to experiment, so info on Stilic and Rudnevs starting (plus Stilic positioning in the line up) have to be 100% sure. And I would like to see a quality of the pitch as well...

    2) City thrashed United playing with one man down and Tottenham in the middle of Modric crisis, they barely won a point at Anfield Road recently. Not a big fan of AVB work at the moment, but if Chelsea can play similar to match against Valencia they can be dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭gudede


    Just had a quick look at the stats. I won't be having a bet till I see the teams.

    _________________Chelsea________Man City________Odds
    _______________Home Games____Away Games

    BTS_______________6/7____________ 6/7___________8/13

    Over 2.5___________7/7_____________6/7___________4/5

    Over 1.5 (1st half)___4/7____________ 4/7___________7/4

    Over 1.5 (2nd half)___6/7____________6/7___________Evens

    2nd half more goals___5/7____________5/7__________11/10

    Over 3.5 goals_______4/7____________6/7___________9/4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Yoshie.


    Boylesports Boylesports
    Day5 of our #12DaysofXmas promo will be live on boylesports.com from 6pm sharp and concerns tonight's big #PremierLeague matchup!

    Gunna wait and see if it's enhanced city odds and shove the max bet on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Roma v Juventus
    Roma are depleted in defence ahead of the visit of unbeaten Juventus. Nicola Burdisso and Simon Kjaer are both injured. Right-back Marco Cassetti was a late withdrawal from the squad while Juan is suspended. Midfielder Fernando Gago and attacker Bojan Krkic are also banned following their red cards in the 3-0 defeat at Fiorentina last time out.
    The only player missing for Juve's trip to the capital is forward Mirko Vucinic, who is denied a return to his former club after being ruled out until the New Year through injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭seklly


    Yoshie. wrote: »
    Boylesports Boylesports
    Day5 of our #12DaysofXmas promo will be live on boylesports.com from 6pm sharp and concerns tonight's big #PremierLeague matchup!

    Gunna wait and see if it's enhanced city odds and shove the max bet on.

    You can get double the odds on your selection with the Bet365 offer. Put your €50 on them to win pre-match and then another €50 on them when it kicks off which you get back if it loses so essentially you'll be getting 15/4 on a City win for your €50 stake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    PP Powerplay online

    Man City and Juventus to win 11-2


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭the explorer


    Juve win
    City v Chelsea over 2.5

    10 returns 38 with PP

    Was very lucky on saturday, had btts NO in swansea fulham, last minute penalty nearly cost me €20. Hopefully the luck will continue. Thought about Juve DNB at 4/7 but opted to take the win in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    Wouldnt personally go near the game tonight.At a push id go for both teams to score (a near certain IMO) and overs.

    Bloody no will power.Gone with

    Both Teams to Score in the First Half
    Yes @ 11/4
    €4


    To Be Booked
    J Terry @ 17/10
    €10


    Penalty Awarded?
    Yes @ 9/5
    €2

    Half-Time/Full-Time
    Chelsea / Man City @ 25/1
    €1


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭FOXFISH1


    seklly wrote: »
    You can get double the odds on your selection with the Bet365 offer. Put your €50 on them to win pre-match and then another €50 on them when it kicks off which you get back if it loses so essentially you'll be getting 15/4 on a City win for your €50 stake

    there must be some way to guarantee a profit from this offer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭gudede


    stingerro wrote: »
    3) When attacking City have a tendency to play their 4 midfielders very narrow, sometimes it looks like a "magical square" used by Brazilian teams (2 DMs and 2 CM/AMs ahead of them) with full backs overlapping. Sturridge does a good job defensively against his full back, but Mata doesn't. If Mata starts on the left and Micah Richards will be a full back on his side, I can see City having a big impact here.

    Richards isn't included in the squad

    Chelsea (from): Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole, Mikel, Romeu, Ramires, Lampard, McEachran, Mata, Malouda, Meireles, Torres, Drogba, Kalou, Sturridge, Lukaku, Turnbull.


    Manchester City (from): Hart, Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Savic, K Toure, Clichy, Johnson, Milner, Y Toure, De Jong, Barry, Hargreaves, Nasri, Silva, Dzeko, Balotelli, Aguero.

    Also Terry also has a bad record of getting booked this season, he has 6 booking in 14 games in 2011 season but he 6 booking last year in 33 games and 7 booking the year before in 37 games. The 9/4 with sky bet could be value but I don't have an account

    (as you can guess with all my posts, I done alot in work today :D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Poznan to score in both halfs @ evens
    Poznan gets 42.3% of goals in 1st half and 57.7% in 2nd half- rather even spread.

    In last 4 away matches in League, Lubin have conceded in both halves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭Smithwicks Man


    11/2 PP powerplay looks tasty for city and juventus to win but played it safe and went for a draw no bet double of city (11/10) and juventus (4/7) @ 23/10

    Roma are missing quite a few and juve have been great at grinding out results this season, and I can see city having chelsea on the back foot for a good while, whether they play their usual game or go behind and throw men forward. Hence the booking bets as well...

    Done a double of Juventus to win and John terry to be booked 16 euro returns 95. Was gonna pick Bosingwa/Zabaleta but stuck to the old reliable!

    And stuck a euro on each of Terry and Bosingwa to be sent of @ 20/1 and 22/1 just for a laugh! :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Juventus -1 V Roma is 7/2 with Paddy Power are pretty generous odds.

    Roma are without a lot of key players so Luis Enrique finds himself also having to completely reconstruct his defence, as Simon Kjaer and Marco Cassetti join Nicolas Burdisso, David Pizarro and Fabio Borini on the treatment table.

    There's talk of De Rossi having to fill in at centre back.

    Vucinic is the only injury concern for Juventus who are still unbeaten. Roma on the other hand lost their last game 3-0 to Fiorentina.

    Roma have the home advantage tonight but the "ultras" are calling for Enrique to be sacked and the club are in dissaray on the pitch with very few options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Headshot wrote: »
    Requested odds on Vargas to score midweek :)

    Took the right one i suppose because U de Chile has 2 of them.
    I know you know but you might have to explain it to PP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Juventus -1 V Roma is 7/2 with Paddy Power are pretty generous odds.

    Roma are without a lot of key players so Luis Enrique finds himself also having to completely reconstruct his defence, as Simon Kjaer and Marco Cassetti join Nicolas Burdisso, David Pizarro and Fabio Borini on the treatment table.

    There's talk of De Rossi having to fill in at centre back.

    Vucinic is the only injury concern for Juventus who are still unbeaten. Roma on the other hand lost their last game 3-0 to Fiorentina.

    Roma have the home advantage tonight but the "ultras" are calling for Enrique to be sacked and the club are in dissaray on the pitch with very few options.

    aye, Juve is so tempting, but got badly stung last night with Napoli so Seria A is getting the cold shoulder from me for a while

    Word is this is the Roma team:
    Stekelenburg
    (28)

    Rosi (24) - Heinze (33) - De Rossi (28) - Taddei (31)

    Perrotta ( 34) - Viviani ( 19) - Greco ( 25)

    Pjanic (21)

    Totti ( 35) - Osvaldo (25)

    Their midfield is very weak without De Rossi in it- can only see a Juve win but still avoiding it. Good luck:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    wprathead wrote: »
    Poznan to score in both halfs @ evens
    Poznan gets 42.3% of goals in 1st half and 57.7% in 2nd half- rather even spread.

    In last 4 away matches in League, Lubin have conceded in both halves.


    Would you be worried that apart from Poznans last match which they won 4-0 they did'nt score in each of 4 previous games?

    http://www.soccerway.com/matches/2011/12/12/poland/ekstraklasa/kks-lech-poznan/zaglebie-lubin-ssa/1121803/

    Tho the other team does concede alot of goals.
    to score in both halfs is 6/5 with PP


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    Starting line up of Lech looks strong - Krivets, Stilic, Tonev and Rudnevs are in, they should win it, possibly by more than 1 goal. Arboleda is back as CB, which should be a bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭Smithwicks Man


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Juventus -1 V Roma is 7/2 with Paddy Power are pretty generous odds.

    Roma are without a lot of key players so Luis Enrique finds himself also having to completely reconstruct his defence, as Simon Kjaer and Marco Cassetti join Nicolas Burdisso, David Pizarro and Fabio Borini on the treatment table.

    There's talk of De Rossi having to fill in at centre back.

    Vucinic is the only injury concern for Juventus who are still unbeaten. Roma on the other hand lost their last game 3-0 to Fiorentina.

    Roma have the home advantage tonight but the "ultras" are calling for Enrique to be sacked and the club are in dissaray on the pitch with very few options.

    Had to take this, expecting a comfortable win from juventus, threw a fiver on it in a double with city dnb (11/10).

    Stake and Return Details
    Bet placed at 12th of Dec 2011 5:29 pm
    Draw No Bet
    Man City @ 11/10
    Handicap Betting
    Juventus (-1.0) @ 7/2
    Bet type Double (To Win)
    Total stake due €5.00
    Potential Returns €47.25


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭keysersoze0330


    did €5 on Lech to score in both halves, City and Juve wins pays €67


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭plasteritup


    city minus 1
    lech minus 1
    juve win
    3 euro returns 70


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Yoshie.


    Chelsea 3/1 on boylesports for a bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭Hender


    Boyles Xmas Offer is Enhanced Odds....on Chelsea to beat City - Now 3/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭clearodara


    Going for this tonight, returns 346 for 20 stake


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    Juve -1,-2.2 euro on each for the craic :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Game for Saturday but advise getin' in now: Leeds v Reading

    Most Goals 2nd Half @ 21/20 Bet365:eek:

    Reading get 92.4% of Championship goals in 2nd half
    Leeds get 66.6% of Championship goals in 2nd half

    These odds are surely going to go down so I'm putting my stake on it now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Yardie


    A few potential bets depending on team news:

    With Micah Richards out there is a good chance Savic will start at RB like he did in Champs League. As Stinger pointed out last week he looks very card prone and will be put to the test marking Mata.
    Savic is 3/1 to be booked on Skybet.

    If he starts Oriel Romeu will be given the task of marking David Silva. I am not sure of the stat but i would imagine it is quite high for defensive mids getting booked for fouls on Silva this term. In last few games Gustavo for Munich,Surman for Norwich, Barton for QPR have all been booked for fouls on Silva
    Romeu is 3/1 to be booked on skybet

    Also Man City over 4.5 corners @ 5/6 on Unibet. City have had over 4.5 corners in 11 out of 14 league matches this season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭stingerro


    Yardie wrote: »

    If he starts Oriel Romeu will be given the task of marking David Silva. I am not sure of the stat but i would imagine it is quite high for defensive mids getting booked for fouls on Silva this term. In last few games Gustavo for Munich,Surman for Norwich, Barton for QPR have all been booked for fouls on Silva
    Romeu is 3/1 to be booked on skybet
    Earlier this season Jack Rodwell was man marking Silva as well, he also got booked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Yardie


    Yoshie. wrote: »
    Chelsea 3/1 on boylesports for a bit.

    Is that still available. Can only see 7/5 for Chels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭plasteritup


    Yardie wrote: »
    Is that still available. Can only see 7/5 for Chels

    no,just onto them now,limited time only:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭plasteritup


    anyone know the score in the poznan game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭PaddyTheNth


    no,just onto them now,limited time only:mad:

    Must have been up for less than 10 minutes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭PaddyTheNth


    anyone know the score in the poznan game?
    Up 1-0

    http://www.livescore.com/soccer/poland/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭plasteritup


    cheers paddy!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Bit early but odds might change, get lower.

    EL: Wisla Krakow - Fc Twente @2,3 for a home win.
    Wisla need a win to have a change to progress. Twente cant be arsed (will always finish the group on top)and leaves 5 1st team players in Holland to rest them for the match on Sunday away to Feyenoord.

    EL: And then there is the possible Greek - Russia conspiracy Paok - Rubin where a draw will mean qualification for both and Tottenham are gone.
    Odds on a draw are only 2,4 though.

    Can see PSV rest a good few players too but they play at home against Rapid Bucaresti who probably also only think of this match as being a nuisance. So i stay away from that one

    Dutch Eredivisie: PSV has to go to Heerenveen this weekend.
    Heerenveen win @3,5 is massive. Heerenveen's attack is by far the best in Holland at the moment with Bas Dost scoring 5 (14 in 16 matches now) this weekend against poor Excelsior. Can see them cause all kind of problems for any defence as AZ found out 2 weeks ago (lost 5-1 at Heerenveen).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Yardie have you any opinion on total cards or markets in the Chelsea game?

    Also would a €50 double qualify as a pre match bet to get the free 50 do u think or does it have to a single?

    thanks



    EDIT I just rang up and both bets must be singles


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭PEACEBROTHER


    Juan Mata to score 1st 9/1:eek:

    Can see him getting on the scoresheet tonight ( 20e )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Juan Mata to score 1st 9/1:eek:

    Can see him getting on the scoresheet tonight ( 20e )

    He's 14/1 with stan james / betpack if u have an account.

    you could half stake on first and last and and up with 7/1 each.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    anyone know the score in the poznan game?

    2-1 atm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    wprathead wrote: »
    Poznan to score in both halfs @ evens
    Poznan gets 42.3% of goals in 1st half and 57.7% in 2nd half- rather even spread.

    In last 4 away matches in League, Lubin have conceded in both halves.

    Love when a bet comes in early:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭gudede


    Chelsea Team

    Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole, Romeu, Ramires, Meireles, Sturridge, Drogba, Mata.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    robbie1977 wrote: »
    Yardie have you any opinion on total cards or markets in the Chelsea game?

    Also would a €50 double qualify as a pre match bet to get the free 50 do u think or does it have to a single?

    thanks



    EDIT I just rang up and both bets must be singles

    Not a total but a few yo yos on Terry to be booked :).was 7/10 earlier


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭PEACEBROTHER


    robbie1977 wrote: »
    He's 14/1 with stan james / betpack if u have an account.

    you could half stake on first and last and and up with 7/1 each.

    Cheers but im doing no more online betting till new year ( trying to clear credit card ) so im just doing it in my local . Cheers for advice big difference

    I see Mata having a good game tonight could well be wrong but I think he is settling in very well at chelsea and tonight could be his night


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