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  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    Hi, everyone!

    Haven't been on in a while. Had some blast of a weekend too.

    Friday was Billy's birthday! :D He's 26 now. Had a really fun weekend. The nights were spent in pubs and late bars. The days were spent nursing hangovers in the sun. Was a real blast. I spoiled him too. I really wanted him to have a brilliant weekend for it. We spent so much time with all our friends and spent a bit of time with his family.

    We spent Sunday in the city, taking in the Leinster Football Finals in Croke Park while we were at it. I am painfully sunburnt, but it was worth it. There were also way too many embarrassing photos taken over the weekend. Waiting for the backlash from them at the moment. :o

    I wanted to make a bit of a fuss and an event of it. It is the first birthday we have had to celebrate since we got together, so I went and made it a bit over the top. It was great. Really great. Everyone who went out with us or came over or who spent time with us over the weekend just had an amazing time. None moreso than us. We didn't get much time alone together until last night. Last night we finally got to be alone for the first time over the whole weekend. Needless to say, that was one of the best parts of the weekend!

    Also, a big group of relatives of my mum's from the USA were over for a week. They spent a bit of time in Dublin, so I got to meet them. They're all from around Los Angeles. I now have a standing invite to go and visit them whenever I want. I may just take them up on that at some point! Was really cool to meet some relatives that I didn't even know I had until a little while ago!

    Still recovering from the exertions of the weekend. Still rubbing aloe-vera into my arms and anywhere else that's burnt. Still delighted that I made an effort to have a big weekend for Billy (in spite of him saying he didn't really want a fuss). He loved it and was delighted with how well it went.

    An incredible few weeks since. Hopefully it stays the same! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    Hi, all.

    Wow. Seriously didn't realise it's been over 2 months since I last posted any kind of an update in here! Time has just flown by and everything is just still going so well! A good bit has happened in the interim, so I'll try not to forget anything!

    First off, had my own birthday a couple of weeks ago on the 30th August. I'm 28 now, really into my late-20's now. Eep. But had an amazing weekend for it. Spent the Friday night at home with a few friends and just had a quiet one with them (lots of pizza, XBox and so on). Saturday was the proper bit of a knees-up with loads of friends and all my family. Way overdid it. Passed out in bed the minute I fell through the door. :o Then on Sunday, had one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had in Croke Park, watching Dublin v. Kerry. Absolutely stunning game. The nerves and the sweating from the game soon shifted the hangover!

    Got a really nice surprise from my ex on Monday evening. She hadn't been able to make it out on the Saturday night, so she brought me out for a meal and just to chat and catch up. It was a really good night. She's doing really well and I'm so happy. She's equally as delighted that I'm doing so well. I love that we're still such good friends and that we are always going to be there for each other should anything go wrong.

    We are also just back from our trip to New York! I'm jet-lagged to pieces, but luckily am not back in work until Thursday. Poor Billy is currently in work. Both our sleeping patterns are shot to ribbons. But it was so worth it.

    One of the best trips I've ever been on. New York is so amazing, really and truly. It also was amazing as it was just us together for most of it. A gorgeous room overlooking Central Park. Breakfast, a proper New York breakfast, in a different café every morning. All the amazing buildings and history of the place. Met so many nice people there too. Had a couple of nights out in some proper New York nightclubs. But mostly we just spent time together, visiting some proper tourist spots and trying out all the New York cafés and restaurants!

    Met up with a lot of our relations too. We met up with a cousin of my mum and her family. Absolutely the nicest people ever. Met cousins I never knew I had and had a blast with them. They loved Billy too, which was also great. He was a bit shy at first (he's naturally quite shy), but that soon went away. Met up with relations of Billy's too and had an equally fun time. I don't care what anyone says, a lot Americans are the most genuine, lovely, welcoming people you could ever hope to meet. That was our experience of it, anyway. We now have another standing invitation to come back to New York any time we want. After the wonderful week we had there, we cannot wait to go back!

    An amusing incident at the hotel we were staying in too. When we were checking in, the receptionist was putting us into a room with twin beds. I casually corrected him and asked for a room with a double bed. He smiled a little and wrote something down while he was adjusting the booking. He handed me the slip of paper with the name and address of a bar on it. It was a gay-friendly bar that had a really nice vibe to it and that he went there a lot! Suggested we check it out. We did and it was actually a great bar! Delighted with random little bits of good luck like that! :D

    I'm just totally in love with New York at the moment. It's just so exciting and vibrant. Was so worth it and of course the best moments were just spending time with Billy and seeing all the amazing things that New York has to offer together. I actually had tears in my eyes as I looked out the window of the plane as we were leaving and saw the city and Lady Liberty being left behind. The only thing is that I know for sure that we'll be going back!

    As for life itself, it's all going well. Thankfully. My little nephew is just about 4 months old now. I'm still his main babysitter, and I'm able to do it alone now! No need for my mum to be there to supervise any more! :o I love spending time with him and I'm so glad that I get so many opportunities to do so.

    The tl;dr version: I'm older, I've been to New York and back, it was brilliant, still loved up, still going strong. Life is good. :D

    Sorry for being away for so long, and thanks again for reading! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Maxestling


    Was looking to see if anyone else was in a similar position to me when I stumbled across this, it wasn't what I expected and I had to read all your posts, it was so heartwarming to see true love blossom and it is so nice that it has worked out so well; you both deserve your happiness.
    I really think to anyone who finds themselves in a similar position to yours it will be of great comfort to them to see that life doesn't end when you realise you are gay/bi. For me, iv been through the whole coming out experience when I was 17 and I was ok, I'm 25 now so it seems like a distant memory. I do however take comfort in your story as It shows life does get better, after being in a 4 year relationship with a guy who I thought was "the one" and it all to come crashing down around me I needed a story a happy outcome. Thank you so much for sharing your story, it really does give me hope, which is something I have very little of right now, after being cheated on a few times I had enough and left, moved out of his house with all my life boxed up and in bags. Luckily I have a house of my own which I purchased two years ago after an inheritance so here I am, in the house I thought I would never live in, alone, more alone that ever in my life, my dad died when I was 18 and my mom 2 years ago, older siblings that I'm not very close with, I feel like the last few years are worthless, I feel so much grief that I can't breath, I can't face unpacking, I can't face anything other than the wine!!! Small mercies and all that!!!!
    I don't even know where I would begin putting my life back together, will I ever meet someone again, will I want to meet someone. I thought i was with someone who loved me and would never hurt me after being through so much but he did.
    I just hope that anyone who is lucky enough to be in love and to be truly loved should cherish it, cherish the person they love, and whether that is gay, straight or bi it doesn't matter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    Maxestling wrote: »
    Was looking to see if anyone else was in a similar position to me when I stumbled across this, it wasn't what I expected and I had to read all your posts, it was so heartwarming to see true love blossom and it is so nice that it has worked out so well; you both deserve your happiness.
    I really think to anyone who finds themselves in a similar position to yours it will be of great comfort to them to see that life doesn't end when you realise you are gay/bi. For me, iv been through the whole coming out experience when I was 17 and I was ok, I'm 25 now so it seems like a distant memory. I do however take comfort in your story as It shows life does get better, after being in a 4 year relationship with a guy who I thought was "the one" and it all to come crashing down around me I needed a story a happy outcome. Thank you so much for sharing your story, it really does give me hope, which is something I have very little of right now, after being cheated on a few times I had enough and left, moved out of his house with all my life boxed up and in bags. Luckily I have a house of my own which I purchased two years ago after an inheritance so here I am, in the house I thought I would never live in, alone, more alone that ever in my life, my dad died when I was 18 and my mom 2 years ago, older siblings that I'm not very close with, I feel like the last few years are worthless, I feel so much grief that I can't breath, I can't face unpacking, I can't face anything other than the wine!!! Small mercies and all that!!!!
    I don't even know where I would begin putting my life back together, will I ever meet someone again, will I want to meet someone. I thought i was with someone who loved me and would never hurt me after being through so much but he did.
    I just hope that anyone who is lucky enough to be in love and to be truly loved should cherish it, cherish the person they love, and whether that is gay, straight or bi it doesn't matter.

    Hi,

    first off, I am so sorry to hear about your troubles. Truly I am. I can only hope that things get better for you. Just reading what you've been through is heart-breaking and I can only hope that you find your feet and find someone who will love and respect you.

    I can truly say that both myself and Billy have found happiness. From where we started only a few short months ago, I cannot believe sometimes where we now find ourselves. He truly is my soul-mate. And I am his.

    I was truly at the edge of a precipice not so long ago. A wonderful, long-term relationship with an amazing woman had ended. I was alone. I was in the closet. I was confused. I was scared for both my physical and mental health. I had tried to find solace in the arms of a man for anonymous sex. It was a disaster. I was at such a low ebb.

    Fate, luck, karma, whatever has a way of sorting these things out sometimes. Were it not for a stupid, drunken night where I ended up professing my love for Billy, who knows where I'd be. Had that night not happened, I don't want to think where we would both be right now. Both still trapped in the closet, both unhappy, and so on. But through just sheer luck, we're now the two happiest guys you could ever hope to meet.

    It is a cliché, but you will find that special someone. I had cried myself to sleep so many nights between the break up of my relationship with my ex and finally "finding" Billy. I felt alone. I felt like you. That I was a hopeless closet case who would never be happy with a woman, but who would never have the guts to find a man. Please, don't think like that.

    It is hard. Depression is awful to deal with. It is a nightmare that nobody can understand fully unless they have been that soldier. But don't give up. Please, don't give up. There is that person for everyone. Sometimes it just takes that little bit longer to find them. Sometimes they're already in your life. You just need to realise it. Trust me, you will find someone.

    I know I can't say much. I was so undeniably lucky in how things worked out for me. I never doubt that. But it can happen for everyone. Truly.

    I am so glad that my own experiences are helping you. This is why I keep posting some updates. It helps me. It helps others, too. And this is why. If you can find some solace, some hope in what has happened to me, this is why I will keep posting.

    I can only hope that my experiences help others. I can only hope that you manage to get your life back on track and find that special someone.

    Best of luck, and a big hug. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Maxestling wrote: »
    I don't even know where I would begin putting my life back together, will I ever meet someone again, will I want to meet someone. I thought i was with someone who loved me and would never hurt me after being through so much but he did.

    Hey Maxestling, I know how you're feeling and I just want to tell you that it does get better. Stay strong.

    I read your post a few days ago and it's been in the back of my mind ever since. I am recently single too and it completely blindsided me. It wasn't a very long term relationship, I tend to stay away from those after a very bad experience, but I really thought he was special and decided to put myself out there and get myself emotionally invested when he suggested we move beyond casual fun to a relationship. We were together for nearly seven months and it was wonderful but he wasn't out to anyone beyond his closest friends and rumours at work really took their toll on him.

    He's a garda and although he lives in Dublin he works a good bit away in quite a rural district and there are only a few of them based there (of which he's the youngest). He wouldn't tell me exactly what they said/did but I understand it was the usual whispers behind his back, snide comments, innuendo and freezing him out - the typical passive aggressive crap that you know is there but can't be proved.

    Anyway, about 6 weeks ago he tells me he can't 'do this anymore' and needs to get his head together, get his life together and stop 'living like this' meaning I'm dumped and he's planning to get a girlfriend and live the straight life.

    At the time I couldn't decide which was greater - the anger or the feeling of being punched in the stomach - but those feelings are slowly diminishing, I still feel sick thinking about it but I know from last time that it takes a while to get past this.

    He texted me a couple of weeks ago and said he was sorry, he made a mistake, now he was miserable AND alone etc. I told him to move on and even though it killed me to say it I think it helped me feel a bit better. When he finally dropped by to collect a few things he had left at my place we had what I (and probably my neighbours) would describe as a pretty spectacular argument and that was the end of it. It's hard knowing I will probably never see him again and I've been feeling like crap.

    My point is, he isn't worth hating or self-loathing over. You'll get back on your feet soon enough and meet someone else but don't waste time questioning what you did or didn't do or could have done differently, it's self-destructive and will only make you feel worse. I've been there.

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    So sorry to hear that, Ten. Not a nice thing to happen at all. Really sorry to hear that.

    The line that got to me most is when you said you'll never see him again. That caught me. I'm so sorry for your trouble. Sincerely.

    I can only imagine what state I'd be in if a similar situation happened to me. Wouldn't be a pleasant sight. Though thankfully I doubt it will happen.

    I just hope that everyone finds that special someone before long. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    Hi, everyone!

    Just wanted to wish everyone a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year! I'm a big kid at heart, so I love this time of the year. I got a (playful) slap from a colleague when I put on a Christmas CD in work on the 1st of November. I'm guessing, though, that a lot of people would have given me a slap for that one! :o

    This year has a lot of firsts for Christmas: my little nephew Adam's first Christmas, me and Billy celebrating Christmas together for the first time as boyfriends. I'm so looking forward to it. I really cannot wait. I'm worse than most kids are, waiting for it. I just love spending time with the family and friends. As the song says, it really is the most wonderful time of the year (apart from the f*cking cold).

    It was a little awkward, however, when it came to negotiations as to where we'd go for Christmas Day. It ended up that we're going to go to my folks' place for the morning and dinner and stuff, and then onto Billy's folks for the evening.

    I have to say, his parents have actually warmed up to me a lot. I think they're really getting used to the idea and have accepted it a bit more. I'm hoping that Christmas will be the final step when they'll fully accept it and be truly happy for Billy and for us. I'm hopeful anyway.

    Anyway, I just wanted to wish everyone on here a Happy Christmas. Be safe, be happy and have a good one. Whomever you're spending your Christmas with, enjoy it.

    Hope you all enjoy it as much as I'm sure I will! Merry Christmas, everybody! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    Hi again, everyone.

    I find it hard to believe as I write this, but it has been over a year since I first posted in here. My first post was in the early hours of the 12th of January, 2013. What has followed since then has undoubtedly been the best, happiest year of my entire life so far. So much has happened and has gone on in the past year. And one of the big reasons I love this thread is because it encapsulates it all. I love reading back over it sometimes, just remembering what was happening at the time, and how much better everything is now.

    On the 31st, Friday night, it's what we've decided to be our "official" anniversary. On Friday night, it'll be one year since we started going out. We're stealing away for the weekend, down to Cork. We've a table booked for Friday night. It'll be good fun trying to beat it down the M7 from work Friday evening to get there!

    But I'm so looking forward to it. We booked it all spur of the moment a few days ago, and we're like two giddy kids. The amount of time we've spent in the past while just murmuring all the lovey-dovey stuff to each other about how long we've been together, how happy we are and all that is a bit sickening (to the outside observer anyway!), but I wouldn't have it any other way!

    For all the little difficulties and all the niggly little things that happened, it has been the best time of my life. I have never been so happy or contented as I have been for the last year or so. With Billy, I don't just have a boyfriend. I have my best friend too. To most outside observers who would see us, we would just look like really good friends. Until one of us gives the other a quick peck on the cheek or something. :D

    To everyone in here who has read, replied and given advice, thank you. It means so much to me that I got so much support here. I couldn't have done half of what I did without some of the words of encouragement and support I got from here. Sincerely. You guys are just great and awesome. And I hope that maybe my life and the last year could be help and inspiration to someone if they are in a bad place. Just follow your heart, because sometimes it leads you to the right place!

    All that aside; I hope everyone had an amazing Christmas and New Years! I know I did. It was wonderful.

    We had an amazing Christmas, I'm not gonna lie. We got a little emotional on Christmas Eve. We both came home early that day and just spent the rest of it curled up on the sofa, talking and watching some films. Of course, leave it to me to start crying. :o I just got caught up in telling him how much he meant to me and how much I loved him. How special this Christmas was for me. Of course, once I started, he started. He said the same and we were just blubbering and hugging for ages.

    Christmas Day was pure brilliance. Spent the morning up in my parents' home. All the family was there and it was just like the picture perfect Christmas. I spent most of the day one the floor, trying to coax Adam into crawling and helping him open all his presents!

    For the early evening, myself and the brother both were going to our respective "in-laws". I still wasn't fully sure of how things were between all of us. Whether it was the Christmas spirit or what, it seems to be as close to fully healed and fully warm as it can get. Spent the evening and up to near midnight with Billy's family and just had a blast.

    Me and Billy's mum even had a big deep, meaningful conversation alone together in the kitchen at one point. We both got a little tearful (what is it with me and getting over-emotional? :o ). But she said she was just initially worried about Billy, as a mother would do about her child. She didn't know what to expect or how to react. She was worried about who Billy would end up with. She actually said to me that she was so relieved when she found out who Billy's boyfriend was. She gave me a hug and just asked that we do our best to be happy together. It was one of those moments where I just felt the relief wash over me.

    The above makes my initial furious reaction to what happened between Billy and his folks seem very stupid now.

    New Years was just too much fun. We descended upon the city centre (me, Billy and a load of our friends) like an overdressed avalanche and drank ourselves silly. I may have puked into the Grand Canal on the way home. You stay classy, Tito. :o

    So yeah. There you have it. Who the hell knew that in one year from when I started posting that I'd be where I am now. It's been one amazing year for me, and I only hope it will keep getting better!

    Be safe and be happy, everyone! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Tito Man! wrote: »
    I'm roughly 2 years older than my boyfriend. At first, I thought that was a HUGE gap. But now, I think I realise it's not (I'm 28, he's 26; we started going out nearly a year ago :eek:).

    Any gay guys we've talked to who are in a relationship are with a guy who is usually within 3 or 4 years of them, older or younger. I think most people like having a relationship with a peer of their age, but I'm open to correction.

    I certainly wouldn't be comfortable with someone much younger or older than I am, but that's just me!
    Tito Man! wrote: »
    Just realising that this will be the first Christmas with my boyfriend this year! I'm a big kid at heart and I love Christmas. But this one will be extra special for me.

    It's also going to be my baby nephew's first Christmas too! Can't wait for the times when he's old enough to get properly excited and giddy about it!

    I started my Christmas shopping today! Sick, I know. But I intend to be finished before December starts and to be chilled on the run up to the big day. Happy with how it's been progressing so far!

    I just got word that I'm going to get a very nice Christmas bonus this year! Get in! :D


    Whhhaaat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I don't understand? What's wrong?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Alfasudcrazy


    Well it was such a sweet story with a happy ending and long may it continue. Thanks for the update - when can I buy the film rights?:P


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Congratulations Tito Man, enjoy your anniversary.

    Out of curiosity, has Billy ever seen this thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    I was just wondering same Ten. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Tito Man!


    Hi, everyone!
    yawhat! wrote: »
    Whhhaaat?
    Paddy C wrote: »
    I don't understand? What's wrong?

    Unless yawhat! knows me in real life and doesn't know I'm gay. :o Maybe I shouldn't put personal info that could reveal who I am up here. :o



    Well it was such a sweet story with a happy ending and long may it continue. Thanks for the update - when can I buy the film rights?:P

    €1,000,000 to the highest bidder! :p


    Congratulations Tito Man, enjoy your anniversary.

    Out of curiosity, has Billy ever seen this thread?
    I was just wondering same Ten. :pac:

    And no. No he hasn't. I don't know if I'll ever show him this. Maybe I will. I don't know how happy he'd be about it, even though it is all innocent and I only came here for advice and help, and now feel that it is really good for me to continue letting people know how things are. But that's something I'd have to think long and hard about!


    The anniversary went really well! We both couldn't really believe that it was a whole year since everything happened. But it's been the best year of our lives and we couldn't be happier! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭LLMMML


    Does anyone else think this thread is fake?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Why do you care if it's fake or not, it ran for a year and it's done now. Tito Man! hasn't been online for months so I'd say it's pretty safe to assume he's gone.

    You're a bit late to the party :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭LLMMML


    I'm just commenting on a thread I happened upon that ran for pages and pages and to me seems completely fabricated. I find it interesting and something worth commenting on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,103 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    LLMMML wrote: »
    Does anyone else think this thread is fake?

    There is some unwritten common sense etiquette here

    1 Dont pointlessly dig up old threads
    2 Dont make accusations of lieing



    As always comments on moderation are only accepted through pm and not on thread

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Abhainn-Rivers


    Damn you Tito... had me all invested in the story. lol

    So romantic. Wishing you and yours the best for the future!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    LLMMML wrote: »
    Does anyone else think this thread is fake?

    Why should it be fake?


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭LLMMML


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Why should it be fake?

    Reads to me like a fantasy. "Billy" is a bit of a 2-dimensional character. Never seems to act like a real person. There's constant conflict but only from outside the relationship, and always concentrated on "Billy" and the OP is always cast in the role of rescuer, saving "Billy" from these awful people. Generally people in happy relationships don't update a bunch of strangers about how happy they are.

    Basically it sounds very like "fanfic", where adolescents write fantasies about their favourite fictional characters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Ambersky


    Nice heartwarming story and the first thing you want to do in this forum is tear it apart with no posting history of your own,
    that makes you the one who is posting suspiciously LLMML in my opinion.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    LLMMML you will sometimes come across threads that you take with a pinch of salt and while your suspicions of this thread are your own opinion I'd steer clear of declaring them to be fakes, you're just going to piss people off and possibly alienate new users from posting for fear of being called liars.

    Frankly whatever you think of this thread is really irrelevant at this point, it's a zombie thread and if you keep poking away at it then it's probably going to be locked.

    If OP still receives e-mail updates from Boards on followed threads then he is probably aware of your comments and has chosen not to address them. He is not an active user anymore and to me it seems unfair to call the story into question when a reply is highly unlikely at this stage. End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,103 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Folks - lets not derail the thread completely off topic

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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