UFC 193 - Rousey v Holm

Paully D · 09-11-2015 12:28am #1

Date: Saturday 15th November
Time: Fight Pass Prelims (11:15pm, Fight Pass), Prelims (1am, BT Sport 2 and Fight Pass), Main Card (3am, BT Sport 2)
Venue: Etihad Stadium, Melbourne, Australia
Odds: Rousey (1/12) v Holm (10/1)

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riffmongous · 09-11-2015 12:41am

Rousey via Decision

My poll would have looked more like this :P

Rousey - sub rd. 1
Rousey - sub rd. 1
Rousey - sub rd. 1
Rousey - sub rd. 1
Rousey - sub rd. 1

Paully D · 09-11-2015 12:45am

Rousey via Decision

The funniest thing in the build up will be listening to Rogan etc trying to keep a straight face while talking up the chances of Holm and Letourneau. It'd be brilliant if he was caught off camera being completely honest and saying "they have no fucking chance" :pac:

I admit I gave up on him (despite him being one of my favourite fighters) after that loss against Natal in May, but I really hope Uriah Hall can finally realise the insane amount of potential he has and put what would be two big back-to-back wins together with a defeat of Whittaker.

xtal191 · 09-11-2015 1:23am

CatFromHue · 09-11-2015 1:26am

Holm via Submission

Has Ronda ever been kicked in the head or leg?

I was listening to Rogan and John Wayne Parr and he was saying Ronda might have weak, or had problems with in the past, her knees.

I voted Holm, more in hope than anything!

When you look at when upsets have occurred it's usually when the star has had other things to deal with or their head slightly turned.

Ronda in the last few weeks has had her Mam say she wanted to run her coach over, taken a bit of heat for her relationship with Browne, and her coach file for bankruptcy. Then there's pretty much everyone writing off Holm and a bit of celeb exposure for Ronda. This is a recipe for disaster.

BOHtox · 09-11-2015 1:39am

Rousey via Submission

Voted Rousey by KO/TKO but somehow read it as "stoppage" ie, including submission.

Would love to see Holm win though because (starts the car*) I don't really like Ronda (legs it*)

TireeTerror · 09-11-2015 4:47am

Rousey via Decision

BOHtox wrote: »

I don't really like Ronda (legs it*)

Gay!

09-11-2015 2:31pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Has Ronda ever been kicked in the head or leg?

I was listening to Rogan and John Wayne Parr and he was saying Ronda might have weak, or had problems with in the past, her knees.

I voted Holm, more in hope than anything!

When you look at when upsets have occurred it's usually when the star has had other things to deal with or their head slightly turned.

Ronda in the last few weeks has had her Mam say she wanted to run her coach over, taken a bit of heat for her relationship with Browne, and her coach file for bankruptcy. Then there's pretty much everyone writing off Holm and a bit of celeb exposure for Ronda. This is a recipe for disaster.

rousey had minor knee surgery last year I remember, they cleaned up her meniscus, that was it. simple enough.

in terms of the negative. Anyone can do well when the bills are paid, the kids are fed and the world is right! it's when things are going ****e, Is when the real test comes, that when the growth comes.

She'll do well despite all this cos she's a superb fighter with a unique mindset. I don't see holm doing the business really, she's too stompy and unsure of herself. Saying all of that, left then right, then low kick, high kick could cause an upset as Rhonda tears in to her.

froog · 09-11-2015 2:38pm

Rousey via Decision

So rhonda holm will be around 4-5 am?

09-11-2015 2:48pm

sorry I was talking out of my ass, yes 5am for rhonda id say.

09-11-2015 2:56pm

sorry I was talking out of my arse. I see there it starts at 3am GMT so yea she'd be fighting about 5am id say.

akelly02 · 09-11-2015 5:50pm

Rousey via Decision

Chances of a Hall KO anyone? I must admit iv seen feck alll of the other guy

Nuthugger3 · 09-11-2015 8:03pm

Stupid mismatch.

dickwod1 · 09-11-2015 9:22pm

Rousey via Decision

froog · 09-11-2015 10:27pm

Rousey via Decision

just watched holm's last fight. she seems very tame to be honest. a lucky kick in the first exchange is her only chance really.

imo.

scudzilla · 09-11-2015 10:35pm

Holm via Submission

i know this isn't the gambling thread but has anyone seen the odds for this weekend, Ronda is 1/16.....and she's not even the heaviest favourite on the card!!!

That honour goes to Jedrzejczyk who is 1/18

That means something like you put a million zillion euro on and ya can win a fiver

Mellor · 10-11-2015 12:31am

Rousey via Decision

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Paully D · 10-11-2015 12:31am

Rousey via Decision

scudzilla wrote: »

i know this isn't the gambling thread but has anyone seen the odds for this weekend, Ronda is 1/16.....and she's not even the heaviest favourite on the card!!!

That honour goes to Jedrzejczyk who is 1/18

That means something like you put a million zillion euro on and ya can win a fiver

Both are a best priced 12/1 (Ronda with Hills, Joanna with Boyles) now. A €10,000 double on the aforementioned (slightly longer odds as Hills do the best price on the double) returns €11,600. I wish I had 1) the spare money and 2) the balls to back that as you won't get a better rate of interest than that anywhere.

Mellor wrote: »

:D:D:D

Prick. :pac:

Perks of the job?

Mellor · 10-11-2015 12:34am

Rousey via Decision

akelly02 wrote: »

Chances of a Hall KO anyone? I must admit iv seen feck alll of the other guy

The other guy is a bit of a beast tbf. He definitely has the ability to plow Hall over. I also wouldn't have faith in Halls confidence in from of 60k fans cheering for the other guy.

ps3man · 10-11-2015 12:40am

Holm via Submission

Can't help but have that feeling, as small as it is that Holm could actually do it, she could do it, Ronda is only human. That said, I also had the exact same feeling about Zingano back in February and we all know how that one went. Stranger things have happened though. I will put a fiver on Holm by TKO.

cloudatlas · 10-11-2015 12:49am

She works out at the same gym as Jon Jones. Has some mad kick boxing skills, good long range striker. Champion boxer. I think she could cause problems for Rhonda.

Mellor · 10-11-2015 12:55am

Rousey via Decision

Paully D wrote: »

Prick. :pac:

Perks of the job?

Yeah. I was going down anyway, and mentioned it to the boss that we should cover it. As it'll be all over the place for the week. It'll be interesting to see what it gets me access to

Paully D · 10-11-2015 1:06am

Rousey via Decision

Mellor wrote: »

Yeah. I was going down anyway, and mentioned it to the boss that we should cover it. As it'll be all over the place for the week. It'll be interesting to see what it gets me access to

Arianny and Vanessa with any luck! :pac:

Mellor · 10-11-2015 2:18am

Rousey via Decision

cloudatlas wrote: »

She works out at the same gym as Jon Jones

I don't think that's very relevant tbh.

Has some mad kick boxing skills, good long range striker. Champion boxer. I think she could cause problems for Rhonda.

She has the good striking in a division of awful strikers. But It's by no means amazing imo.

She scrapped a split decision verses Rocky Pennington. Here's the third round. She got broken up by the number 12 ranked fighter. The rest of the fight was just as close. Also notice her stance, she's overbalanced to the front. That's playing into a judo throw.

My Prediction.
Ronda will clinch, eating two strikes on the way in and smash her with a harai goshi.

Fromvert · 10-11-2015 3:27am

I don't give Holm any chance and she shouldn't be getting fed to Ronda so soon. The UFC are just desperate for an opponent and can sell a 'world champion striker' to the more casual fans or in this case Ronda Rousey fans who only tune in to watch Ronda.

Ronda wins however way she wants and as quickly as she wants.

RedemptionZ · 10-11-2015 3:40am

I'm really surprised Ronda has done so well for herself outside of the octagon; 135 division in WMMA aside from her is really really bad. Why are people interested in her fights? This is the only [relatively] major sport I'm aware of where a female star has transcended all the top male stars. And it's a combat sport. I can't stand the woman but it's an amazing achievement. What I want to know is how she did it?

martinbe · 10-11-2015 11:02am

Rousey via Decision

Anybody that thinks this will go longer than 1 round is crazy. Rousey will drag Holm to the ground and it will be over in seconds. If she stands and fights it could be a different story but I doubt that’s going to happen. Don’t let the UFC hype train trick you into thinking this will be a great fight.

10-11-2015 11:21am

only upset I see is, if Rhonda goes steaming in under the illusion she's got a great chin as she was able to overpower a larger Brazilian in correia last time out. She may get caught and if holm can follow up, that may be one chance.

in saying that I don't see it really. she's been training with male boxers the last while and I don't see it happening, but there's always an outsider I guess.

Tazzimus · 10-11-2015 11:39am

She may try prove she can stand and swing with a striker and isn't just a Judo machine.

Although the safe bet is just grab hold, drag to floor, armbar, profit.

Mr. Manager · 10-11-2015 1:17pm

Rousey via Decision

Tazzimus wrote: »

She may try prove she can stand and swing with a striker and isn't just a Judo machine.

Although the safe bet is just grab hold, drag to floor, armbar, profit.

She has absolutely nothing to prove imo

cowzerp · 10-11-2015 1:43pm

Holm via Submission

Hate to say it but Holm simply hasn't got the power in her hands to keep Rhonda Honest, so Rhonda unlike her male counterparts can just walk through a few punches to clinch then its a judo match, Judo expert v judo beginner

Holm has a very good head kick so that is a possibility if she can keep range, also Holm is a bigger girl than most Rhonda's opponents so physically will be stronger so it does even it out a little bit

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