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West Indies v England

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  • 13-04-2015 7:58pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭


    first test started today, nothing from new opener Trott, Cook and Ballance, however Bell and Root fighting back nicely.

    Benn bowling non threatening ****e as he has for a long time now, really should have gone for Bishoo in the team with Holder at seven and Blackwood carrying drinks.

    167/3

    Tea, one session left.

    West Indies after a good first session, have lost control, and will really need a few wickets tonight as the first innings score could get huge as the pitch looks harmless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Bell has played well, steadied the ship after rocky England start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    He has been good indeed.

    Poor Benn wont get his century today. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    West Indies have fought back well this morning but damage is done. England will take 400 in the first innings every time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Yeah the West Indies are fighting, but England are still in a very strong position. Shiv can be a nuisance, but he needs partners to give him some support. England will feel comfortable if they bundle them out for 300 or so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Fine performance by Tredwell, wasn't keen myself but for once English selectors got it right. :o Totally overshadowed the West Indies "spinner".

    Blackwood rode his luck, but he has something about him.

    England look like they have this game under control.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Trott's return to test cricket hasn't gone well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Dravid hated opening and he was an immense batsman, its a really tough adjustment. I think they still hammer this lot, so he will get another chance or two, but at the moment, doubtful if Australia are to worried about he or Cook.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    I haven't been able to watch too much, what have they been saying about Trott opening when he's not an opener? Needs must with Ali out but they could have done more to protect him on his return.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Gillespy wrote: »
    I haven't been able to watch too much, what have they been saying about Trott opening when he's not an opener? Needs must with Ali out but they could have done more to protect him on his return.


    They had Adam Lyth who opened for Yorkshire and was excellent last season for them in the squad, he could have opened. The issue with Trott is its number 3 or open really,the middle order is packed and they want to squeeze both in.

    They should win this test and he will get another few chances so its a bit crazy to give up on him yet, but initial signs aren't promising.

    It probably doesn't help Trott that he opens with a horribly out of form Cook either though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    England finished the day strongly enough. West Indies need to find a spinner because like in the first innings, any pressure the quicks built up by taking wickets evaporated once Benn and Samuels came on.

    West Indies need Taylor to go through them in the morning, another 100 or so runs and England should be ok. To be fair, with seven wickets in the hutch, plenty of power to come only adding another 100 would be a huge dissapointment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭death1234567


    England on course for a relatively easy win (despite Cook and Trott being woefully out of touch). The Windies are a poor side with a very poor bowling attack. If Benn is the best spinner they have then god help them. Even the quicks are poor. 2-0 series win for England.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    2-0 series win for England.

    Probably right, the powers that be will think everything in the garden is rosy again, except it isn't really, and they will be badly found out against pretty much any other Test team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    If Holder could find a few more mph he would be unplayable. The quicks have been decent I though. Spinners are releasing all the pressure.

    Benn and Samuels are indistinguishable as to who's the out and out spinner. Where's Shillingford, is his action still suspect? he ripped through the Aussies a few years ago. Of course, it's Narine who should be playing here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Gillespy wrote: »
    If Holder could find a few more mph he would be unplayable. The quicks have been decent I though. Spinners are releasing all the pressure.

    Benn and Samuels are indistinguishable as to who's the out and out spinner. Where's Shillingford, is his action still suspect? he ripped through the Aussies a few years ago. Of course, it's Narine who should be playing here.

    Shillingford was poor last Summer against NZ,not half the bowler he was now he has to bowl legally.:D

    Bishoo will hopefully come in the next test. He is a gamble as he throws in a lot of junk but can produce some quality. Fun to watch at least.

    Holder has done superbly here, and yeah another few miles and he will be a beast. He is more than good enough to bat in the top seven across all formats.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    " He only takes wickets against tailenders"


    One of the criticisms aimed at Rashid over the years....
    :p;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Thought the windies showed a bit of bottle holding out for the draw. Good to see them not just capitulate, cricket needs a competitive West Indies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Holder is a very impressive young man.:)

    https://instagram.com/p/1nZN1zyRBn/

    Benn has been dropped for Shannon Gabriel, so I assume Bishoo comes in next test for him. Ali on his way for England as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    So England bowling first in nice seaming conditions and Taylor injured, its a great chance for England to go up in this series.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    4 down some very soft dismissals though.

    Smith wasn't even out and he didn't refer it.:eek:

    Also Shiv, its the beginning of the end, getting out very cheaply these days. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Pretty sure remember rating Gabriel when he arrived on the scene a few years ago, totally wasted the new ball and a serious step down from Taylor.

    Bring back KING TINO. :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Marlon is awesome.

    27EAB09800000578-0-image-a-100_1429827060808.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Also Shiv, its the beginning of the end, getting out very cheaply these days. :(

    Another failure today.:(

    Truly horrible from the West Indies today to lose 8 wickets with so little fight.

    So many poor shots and a farcical run out to top the farce off.

    Its a much needed win for England though after a pretty brutal few months though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Good old fashioned dig in century from Cook who to be fair has actually done much better in his last few tests than people think , 5 fifties in 8 innings isn't awful but as bad as his critics would lead you to believe.

    Horrible to get out to Samuels "bowling" last over though. ;)

    Not a great position for England, need Buttler and the tail to bat well go get past 300.

    They may regret not having Rashid here, turning and could be a spinners paradise in the fourth innings. However they will also be relived that on first inspection, Permaul simply does not have enough about him to exploit these conditions.

    Also Trott probably has one innings to save his international career,no pressure. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Playing Trott lower down the order would help him but not sure how much. Not enough looking at his current form, and another poor shot to get out again today.

    Adam Lyth needs to open next series imho.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    England 39-5 now! :O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    England 39-5 now! :O

    Nothing like an old school England collapse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,868 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Nothing like an old school England collapse.

    C'mon the Windies


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Playing Trott lower down the order would help him but not sure how much. Not enough looking at his current form, and another poor shot to get out again today.

    Adam Lyth needs to open next series imho.

    Don't think he would add much to the middle order really, a top order batsmen for so long now.

    Lyth should open I think. The public will want Hales, but not convinced yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    England dire second innings so Windies set 192 to win.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    WI definite favourites IMO.

    We need more tests like this!!


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