Suggested tools to go in my zombie murder bag

Lotsafish · 14-04-2015 12:24am #1

Hi All,

I was hoping to get some suggestions for tools to go in my zombie murder bag.

Any ideas?

Existentialist · 14-04-2015 12:25am

Knives... and stabbing weapons.

Chip Whitley · 14-04-2015 5:33pm

Baseball Bat
Hatchet
Crowbar

Tzar Chasm · 14-04-2015 8:41pm

Swiss army knife/ leatherman
Matches/lighter
waterbottle
towel
socks, tshirt, hat
Duct tape
wetwipes
paper towels
condiments- salt, pepper, ketchup.....
Basic first aid kit

these are the basics of a starter kit, you can add more as you think of it.

Micky Dolenz · 15-04-2015 10:30am

A solar charger for your phone. Now I realise the network will go down at some point but modern phones, as we know, are much more than phones. Handy to have a camera, torch, radio,games device that you can use. And if/when networks come up, you'll be ready.

Kiith · 15-04-2015 12:16pm

Survivor - Zombies have breached the front gate!!
Micky Dolenz - Hang on, i'm just about to get a Color Bomb Special Candy Combo in Candy Crush!!

:pac:

Existentialist · 15-04-2015 12:39pm

In the end, that Color Bomb saved us all.
Thank god for Micky.

Micky Dolenz · 15-04-2015 1:04pm

Heh. Nothing like a bit o candy crush after a crushing a few Zeds.

Wabbit Ears · 15-04-2015 4:52pm

water cleaning tablets. Lots and lots of water cleaning tablets. You can find knives and crowbars and whatever else you need for basic survival anywhere but clean safe drinking water, having that will increase your chances of survival more than anything else.

Second would be general antibiotics in pill form.

These are both things that you don't need to bring with you. You can just hide them and know where they are. Life on the run is constant change. You will lose bags, you will lose and break weapons but these little pills, they are lifesavers and they are currency.

Tzar Chasm · 16-04-2015 11:20am

Learning how to make a water filter would be better than relying on a finite supply of purification tablets, it also rovides the means to manufacture a tradeable commodity

antibiotics should be part of your first aid kit,along with painkillers, disinfectant and anti inflammatories

ScumLord · 16-04-2015 2:59pm

Antiseptics.

degrassinoel · 16-04-2015 3:54pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Learning how to make a water filter would be better than relying on a finite supply of purification tablets, it also rovides the means to manufacture a tradeable commodity

antibiotics should be part of your first aid kit,along with painkillers, disinfectant and anti inflammatories

ScumLord wrote: »

Antiseptics.

Bottle of Dettol, every house has one!

ScumLord · 16-04-2015 4:20pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

Bottle of Dettol, every house has one!

I'm more of a TCP man myself, but dettol should be widely available.

I suppose we should be thinking about how to make antiseptics in the long term. I know you can make an antibacterial from coal, I think it needs to be done in a pressure cooker, I think it separates the gas from the coal tar and the tar is antibacterial.

The mold that grows on bread is anti bacterial too.

Saralee4 · 16-04-2015 9:28pm

Survival kit or just zombie killing weapons/protection?

Barbed wire for some protection when sleeping rough (might be hard to carry around tho) rope, a tent, small pot for boiling/frying, small containers to store food.

This sounds more like I'm planing for a camping trip

Tzar Chasm · 17-04-2015 11:27am

Saralee4 wrote: »

Survival kit or just zombie killing weapons/protection?

Barbed wire for some protection when sleeping rough (might be hard to carry around tho) rope, a tent, small pot for boiling/frying, small containers to store food.

This sounds more like I'm planing for a camping trip

Thats entirely it Sara, a very long camping trip.

I find that a lot of people fixate on weapons without considering the other essentials.

you are spot on with your other inclusions, but the barbed wire would be rather unwieldy, as you would need substantial quantities for it to be effective.

Tzar Chasm · 17-04-2015 11:30am

Now Weapons, thats a different story, I suppose it all comes down to preference and availability.

i will be sticking primarily to my favourite axe and hatchet, but should i find an effective spear/pike that might change

ScumLord · 17-04-2015 4:46pm

Watching Skallagrims channel on youtube (it's an ancient weapons nerd fest) I think the spear is probably the best weapon to fall back on. You'll need to make one, I don't know that a point at the end of a shovel handle would be good enough, it could do with being a bit longer.

Tzar Chasm · 17-04-2015 11:02pm

He's right, people talk about swords all the time in these forums, but without training they are a more of a hazzard to the wielder.

i would like to get myself a proper bearded axe, but i am fairly handy with a regular felling axe.

Spears are excellent, and lets not forget that pointy sticks are what put us at the top of the food chain

ScumLord · 18-04-2015 10:53am

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Spears are excellent, and lets not forget that pointy sticks are what put us at the top of the food chain

It's a crazy thought, even if you took away all human technology and we were left with just pointy sticks we'd still be the most dangerous animal on the planet.

rookman · 26-04-2015 11:36am

If they are the slow zombies i think water and food and a weapon to defend myself/stores against other people.The Russian army shovel is a good multi purpose weapon.

RiderOnTheStorm · 04-05-2015 1:46pm

a must in my bag are:

lockpick
Leatherman
crowbar
machete

ScumLord · 04-05-2015 2:49pm

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

a must in my bag are:

lockpick
crowbar

I don't think it would be necessary to have both, the crowbar can do the job of the lockpick. A lock pick is quiet and doesn't leave much of a trace so people wouldn't know the door had been opened. For the most part it won't matter about being quiet (I don't think it'll be like the walking dead were zombies spawn every time a loud noise is made) and it'll be quicker to break whatever you need opened.

Micky Dolenz · 04-05-2015 5:32pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't think it would be necessary to have both, the crowbar can do the job of the lockpick. A lock pick is quiet and doesn't leave much of a trace so people wouldn't know the door had been opened. For the most part it won't matter about being quiet (I don't think it'll be like the walking dead were zombies spawn every time a loud noise is made) and it'll be quicker to break whatever you need opened.

Unless of course you are breaking into a place where living people inhibit.

Tzar Chasm · 05-05-2015 12:30am

I was thinking that the advantage of the lockpic over the crowbar is that it leaves you with a functional lock after you open the door, makes securing the building that little bit easier

Saralee4 · 11-05-2015 6:48pm

came across this, Lifestraw - might come in handy! if you were doomsday prepper, you'd probably get one of these for your bag.

LifeStraw is a water filter designed to be used by one person to filter water so that they may safely drink it. It filters a maximum of 1000 litres of water, enough for one person for one year. It removes almost all of waterborne bacteria and parasites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeStraw

Deise Musashi · 15-05-2015 10:31pm

degrassinoel · 15-05-2015 11:56pm

lol i know where i'm going so

ScumLord · 16-05-2015 12:58pm

Deise Musashi wrote: »

Yupp, that should cover it.

Deise Musashi · 22-08-2015 10:45pm

I'd still fancy a spear of some sort, they ruled the battlefield until gunpowder became common.
If we go back to even black powder my rifles will be useless, the Mongolian horse-bow and a spear/sword/hawk/knife combo will always be useful.

Tzar Chasm · 28-08-2015 10:03pm

Depending in the calibre the rifle may not be totally useless

Deise Musashi · 28-08-2015 11:16pm

.270, .220Swift and a .22 rimfire, I fncy my chances with a decent spear over a rifle with no ammo ( and no bayonet)

Tzar Chasm · 28-08-2015 11:59pm

.22 nah, .308 at a min you could maybe do something subsonic.

Blackpowder is easy, nitrocellulose isalso fairly straightforward if you can lay yer paws on some equipment, fulminates are where my limited experience stops. Fortunatley should the zompocalypse occur i have a plan for that too. Meet me in the engineering building at WIT

fizzypish · 25-09-2015 1:11pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

.22 nah, .308 at a min you could maybe do something subsonic.

Blackpowder is easy, nitrocellulose isalso fairly straightforward if you can lay yer paws on some equipment, fulminates are where my limited experience stops. Fortunatley should the zompocalypse occur i have a plan for that too. Meet me in the engineering building at WIT

I studied in the engineering building. I have no idea what you hope to scrounge from there? We could all hug each other in the prayer room I suppose....

Markcheese · 25-09-2015 3:39pm

Slash hook - ( was thinking machette but the long handle sells it ) . One part staff -one part tool and one part weapon - now to not trip over the blade and slice my leg open ...

dandyelevan · 25-09-2015 3:53pm

Bring a couple of dwarfs.
Invaluable, and you don't even have to carry 'em.
You can throw one to the baying mob if you get surrounded.
And, they don't eat much.

Tzar Chasm · 26-09-2015 4:40pm

fizzypish wrote: »

I studied in the engineering building. I have no idea what you hope to scrounge from there? We could all hug each other in the prayer room I suppose....

You're thinking of the C corridor, although I suppose we could use Beng-ie as a distraction. I meant the AT Building, there are some rather usefull machines over there.

Markcheese · 26-09-2015 11:23pm

dandyelevan wrote: »

Bring a couple of dwarfs.
Invaluable, and you don't even have to carry 'em.
You can throw one to the baying mob if you get surrounded.
And, they don't eat much.

I've a Vision of the 2 dwarfs tripping you and legging it

fizzypish · 28-09-2015 1:48pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

You're thinking of the C corridor, although I suppose we could use Beng-ie as a distraction. I meant the AT Building, there are some rather usefull machines over there.

Hmmmm AT building might work. We could hold those stair wells pretty good. The stairs in the C corridor are narrow too.
Hide in the college for 2-3 weeks. Frantically raid the barracks at first opportunity for ordnance. We commandeer a sea going vessel (We should save someone that knows something about sailing/nautical ****) and get to the the Aran islands. There is never going to be more than 1000 people on the Island. If there's 10 of us, armed with a decent amount of ammo. We'll be grand. AND once **** calms down, I think there's only 1 point to dock on the island so we can let on only who we want.

Tzar Chasm · 27-10-2015 12:28am

Heres a fascinating youtuber.

This guy builds stuff with primitive stone tools.
https://primitivetechnology.wordpress.com/

Briliant instructional videos, just think what you could do with a few people and modern steel tools.

Micky Dolenz · 27-10-2015 5:40pm

That's deadly.
I want him on my team.

ScumLord · 30-10-2015 5:28pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Heres a fascinating youtuber.

This guy builds stuff with primitive stone tools.
https://primitivetechnology.wordpress.com/

Briliant instructional videos, just think what you could do with a few people and modern steel tools.

That's cool, but I don't think these mud huts would work in Ireland. First off I don't think we have the clay for it. Our ground is made of muck, black muck, great for feeding grass but I don't think it would dry out as well, I haven't tried though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Over in the UK I see road works and they've got very consistent almost red clay, they've been using it for millennia to make their red bricks.

The other problem of course is as soon as it rains the hut would melt.

Markcheese · 30-10-2015 7:38pm

ScumLord wrote: »

That's cool, but I don't think these mud huts would work in Ireland. First off I don't think we have the clay for it. Our ground is made of muck, black muck, great for feeding grass but I don't think it would dry out as well, I haven't tried though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Over in the UK I see road works and they've got very consistent almost red clay, they've been using it for millennia to make their red bricks.

The other problem of course is as soon as it rains the hut would melt.

There are 250 year old mud thatch cottages still being lived in in ireland .
My own house is mud and stone and over 200 years old ( mainly stone to be fair) .

Wabbit Ears · 02-11-2015 10:15am

Big difference between back garden muck and clay.Clay can be found all over the place. There are loads of these houses all over Ireland and it's a great, practically free, building material.

ScumLord · 02-11-2015 2:47pm

Markcheese wrote: »

There are 250 year old mud thatch cottages still being lived in in ireland .
My own house is mud and stone and over 200 years old ( mainly stone to be fair) .

I wouldn't think it was just mud either.

I don't know, I've never seen anywhere in Ireland that has clay like they have in the UK. Maybe it's just hard to see clay in its dry form here in Ireland, or most of the good stuff is in the east. The muck around here is sort of fluffy, black and variable consistency. It doesn't have that pasty consistency the clay in that video has.

Tzar Chasm · 03-11-2015 9:09am

Thats soil, dig a bit deeper and you will find clay.

Kromdar · 04-11-2015 12:41pm

IIRC round houses used to be wattle and daub. now muck/clay or no, a few sticks and you'd be sorted. either way its some basic construction skills that would come in handy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKkHqlx9dE - the primitive tech guy, been watching these for a while now.

can't seem to find a useful map of clay types in ireland.

To add to the original topic, a large knife / bowie / machete would be useful.
a survival tin, would be essential and wouldnt take up much room. maybe swap the bic for a resuable and carry some lighter fluid.

Some suggestions from a site i occasionally visit. They also have this on survival knives. Ultimately I'd like this though.

ScumLord · 04-11-2015 4:28pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Thats soil, dig a bit deeper and you will find clay.

Right, where's me shovel?

Tzar Chasm · 05-11-2015 1:51pm

Sorry,here []

|D), I was just sharpening an edge on it for you

Anyone seen my axe?

Nevermind, i found it
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degrassinoel · 05-11-2015 3:02pm

KenjiOdo · 12-11-2015 7:26pm

wrist/leg gaiters
mask with eyes/mouth protection
machete
spear

Suggested tools to go in my zombie murder bag

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