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Catholic Church's Eucharistic Congress 2012

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  • #52
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It seems to me there is a deep distrust within the Catholic Church amongst its members and many people rethinking about the faith. Why not become a Protestant? Could be another option if you disagree with the Church now.

    Stop trying to convert people Keith, it's rude!


  • #53
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    I think that most who attend Mass would rightly be disgusted and dismayed by the abuse scandals and the cover ups - and most practising Catholics I know would have difficulty containing their anger at those responsible, particularly at the top, when the subject comes up. However, they would also feel that the church is as much them as it is the Pope and the bishops, and the don't see why they should be pushed out. Also, many would attend as they would like and respect their priest. The Vatican and the bishops don't own the Church - they may think they do though.

    It can't have disgusted and dismayed them that much if they continue to support the organisation!

    What I am saying is that they aren't supporting the organisation, they are practising their faith and living it within the local parish. For example, someone could attend Mass, make a donation to the priests of the parish, and withold a contributions to diocesan funds. It is difficult to see how such a person is "supporting the organisation". Are you suggesting that individuals with a strong faith don't have the right to practice it because of the criminal acts of some of the clergy?


  • #54
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    I think that most who attend Mass would rightly be disgusted and dismayed by the abuse scandals and the cover ups

    the rest, however, think the little buggers had it coming (if you'll pardon the pun)


  • #55
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It seems to me there is a deep distrust within the Catholic Church amongst its members and many people rethinking about the faith. Why not become a Protestant? Could be another option if you disagree with the Church now.

    Because replacing one load of imaginary friends with another is futile. Why not start throwing virgins into Etna to see if it will address the debt crisis?


  • #56
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    Because replacing one load of imaginary friends with another is futile. Why not start throwing virgins into Etna to see if it will address the debt crisis?
    I was putting that option to people of the Catholic faith.


  • #57
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It seems to me there is a deep distrust within the Catholic Church amongst its members and many people rethinking about the faith. Why not become a Protestant?

    There aren't free from scandals either, they have have own high profile abuse cases


  • #58
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Catholic Church's Eucharistic Congress 2012.


    Is this a bit like the Golden Clerics or something?


  • #59
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    the rest, however, think the little buggers had it coming (if you'll pardon the pun)

    It pains me to say it, but there is a small minority who think that the whole thing is blown out of all proportion, or that we shouldn't be talking about it because non-Catholics abuse children too. I prefer not to discuss it with them because it's pointless, and lets face it, f**k them.


  • #60
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    thewintermute wrote: »
    These chaps are a lot more fun www.ukeristiccongress.com In Whelans Front Bar every second Saturday (Tomorrow) 7pm - 9pm

    You also enjoy twiddling with small instruments?


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  • #61
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    It pains me to say it, but there is a small minority who think that the whole thing is blown out of all proportion, or that we shouldn't be talking about it because non-Catholics abuse children too. I prefer not to discuss it with them because it's pointless, and lets face it, f**k them.

    they'd probably enjoy it, never met such people but I believe you the exist, for me they are just as guilty and should be ashamed. :mad:


  • #62
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Hazys wrote: »
    These holier than thou ignorant Atheists, should take a leaf out of Louis CK's book and try and learn about the Church instead of making childish jokes about people's beliefs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

    Firstly let me say that "holier than thou atheists " is a fackin' stupid thing to say.
    Then let me says that you will find that a large amount of Irish atheists are lapsed catholics who have arrived at their atheistic world view by knowing far to much about that particular nasty religion. I know i did:)
    I make childish jokes about childish beliefs not at those who hold them seeing as i also held them.(as a child!)


  • #63
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Firstly let me say that "holier than thou atheists " is a fackin' stupid thing to say.
    Then let me says that you will find that a large amount of Irish atheists are lapsed catholics who have arrived at their atheistic world view by knowing far to much about that particular nasty religion. I know i did:)
    I make childish jokes about childish beliefs not at those who hold them seeing as i also held them.(as a child!)

    Did you watch the video....


  • #64
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    bleg wrote: »
    Did you watch the video....

    Whoops. I did now. Apple-oggies...:o


  • #65
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Wonder what the age profile will be at this event. Anyone taking bets that the vast majority of attendees will be over 50?


  • #66
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    gurramok wrote: »
    Wonder what the age profile will be at this event. Anyone taking bets that the vast majority of attendees will be over 50?

    yeah the vast majority will be but nevertheless the average age will still be 21!


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  • #67
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    yeah the vast majority will be but nevertheless the average age will still be 21!

    The 'Silver' Congress it should be renamed to. :)


  • #68
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    gurramok wrote: »
    The 'Silver' Congress it should be renamed to. :)

    or Eurfantastic Congress to try and get a younger crowd


  • #69
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    or Eurfantastic Congress to try and get a younger crowd

    Will Jedward be the opening Revelation to attract them?


  • #70
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    gurramok wrote: »
    Will Jedward be the opening Revelation to attract them?

    they ain't that stupid


  • #71
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    they ain't that stupid

    Have you seen their hair? I wonder will many fuddie duddies turn up Jedward style at the congress. Perhaps there will be a mass Exodus upon seeing the opening act perform :)


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  • #72
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    citizens arrest on ratzinger anyone?


  • #73
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    My parents told me of a mass they attended in Croke Park for the Pioneer Society in the 70's, said it was packed.
    Roll on a few decades & the Pioneers almost went to the wall last year.
    Hopefully the same will be true of the future Catholic Church.


  • #74
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    citizens arrest on ratzinger anyone?

    How, throw some holy water on him? :P


  • #75
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    gurramok wrote: »
    How, throw some holy water on him? :P

    going on what his cult teaches the 'holy' water would burn him


  • #76
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    going on what his cult teaches the 'holy' water would burn him

    He a vamp? A case for Buffy?


  • #77
    BlackCatMeoww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭BlackCatMeoww


    Become a protestant? Sure the church of England is in a worse shape than the Catholic church. The cofi is in even worse shape again thanks to "investing" in aib/boi shares.


  • #78
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    BlackCatMeoww wrote: »
    Become a protestant? Sure the church of England is in a worse shape than the Catholic church. The cofi is in even worse shape again thanks to "investing" in aib/boi shares.
    I suppose,the catholic church will never be in a bad financial state due to the way they mug pensioners.


  • #79
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It seems to me there is a deep distrust within the Catholic Church amongst its members and many people rethinking about the faith. Why not become a Protestant? Could be another option if you disagree with the Church now.

    I think this response is class, classic Keith!

    On pensioners, yes they have been bribed. Oh why oh why does one have to pay a fiver a go to have a mass said for a loved one?

    FFS, this is the most wealthiest organisation on the planet and they charge a fiver for a name to be mentioned at altar for 'our prayers'. Money is the root of all evil and is rotten within the RCC.


  • #80
    BlackCatMeoww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭BlackCatMeoww


    gurramok wrote: »
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It seems to me there is a deep distrust within the Catholic Church amongst its members and many people rethinking about the faith. Why not become a Protestant? Could be another option if you disagree with the Church now.

    I think this response is class, classic Keith!

    On pensioners, yes they have been bribed. Oh why oh why does one have to pay a fiver a go to have a mass said for a loved one?

    FFS, this is the most wealthiest organisation on the planet and they charge a fiver for a name to be mentioned at altar for 'our prayers'. Money is the root of all evil and is rotten within the RCC.

    I suppose Switzerland is evil too? Wealth is not inherently evil.


  • #81
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    BlackCatMeoww wrote: »
    I suppose Switzerland is evil too? Wealth is not inherently evil.

    Switzerland ain't a religious institution preaching all goodness. The Vatican is.

    So, have you come up with an excuse why a priest charges for a mass to be said for a loved one? Ya know the loved one is dead so a fiver is the charge for something good to happen to the soul.


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  • #82
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    gurramok wrote: »

    So, have you come up with an excuse why a priest charges for a mass to be said for a loved one? Ya know the loved one is dead so a fiver is the charge for something good to happen to the soul.

    You don't get it.

    Due to overpopulation in heaven, God has implemented a system whereby the souls whose relatives don't get a mass said for them in any given calendar year get sent to Hell once the year has elapsed. For this reason it is essential that mass be said for everyone in order to keep them in tunics, harps and clouds.

    This system may seem cruel but you must understand that heaven is a finite resource and thus subject to the rules of economics. For this reason, God in his infinite Keynesian wisdom, has chosen to maximise his profits given the market conditions.

    Unfortunately, this presents a problem in a heaven where currency doesn't exist. For God to exploit this imbalance between supply and demand, the transactions must happen on earth, where we discovered the idea of using money a long time ago.

    This is all very logical when you think about. God is a rationalist and indulgences and mass-charges are simply a consequence of this. He's also a saver, having studied Austrian economics, so he needs the RCC to hoard all of his money but this is getting slightly off-topic now.


  • #83
    skyflyer
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭skyflyer


    That would be an ecumenical matter! :pac:


  • #84
    BlackCatMeoww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭BlackCatMeoww


    gurramok wrote: »
    Switzerland ain't a religious institution preaching all goodness. The Vatican is.

    So, have you come up with an excuse why a priest charges for a mass to be said for a loved one? Ya know the loved one is dead so a fiver is the charge for something good to happen to the soul.

    One can tell you've never had dealings with a priest. The donation for a Mass is optional. Always has been. Demanding payment for a Mass would be a grave sin IMO as it undermines the purpose of the Mass.


  • #85
    lividduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    BlackCatMeoww wrote: »
    Become a protestant? Sure the church of England is in a worse shape than the Catholic church. The cofi is in even worse shape again thanks to "investing" in aib/boi shares.
    Unlike the Roman Catholic Church which lost its bo~~ix investing in the Mafia Controlled Banco Ambrosio.


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