"BMW" Mini

randomer · 14-02-2008 7:39pm #1

Why do some Mini drivers put such an emphasis on the BMW part?

I was doing a search on Carzone for a BMW M and the resultes showed four people who have BMW M ini's for sale?

If someone is looking for a mini I doubt they are going to look here.

Why do they do it? Is it a snobish thing?

VeVeX · 14-02-2008 8:13pm

Probably the same as your average Skoda driver who thinks he's driving an Audi.

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2008 8:26pm

VeVeX wrote: »

Probably the same as your average Skoda driver who thinks he's driving an Audi.

When the reality is that Audi drivers are driving Skoda's .:)

milltown · 14-02-2008 8:51pm

I'm just waiting for people to pull you up on calling Mini owners snobbish when you were looking for a BMW.

It's the Boards way, don't you know.

E92 · 14-02-2008 9:27pm

I presume they do because the only thing the BMW MINI and the real Mini have in common is the name. A lot of people when they think of Minis think of the one designed by Sir Alec Issagonis all the way back in 1959. And also because the BMW MINI was designed by BMW to a certain extent.

(as an aside in enthusiast circles the BMW one is spelt with all capital letters i.e. MINI, and the original is Mini so as to distinguish between the two types).

fabsoul · 14-02-2008 9:33pm

Stekelly wrote: »

When the reality is that Audi drivers are driving Skoda's .:)

Zonda999 · 14-02-2008 9:42pm

I think that people call their mini's "bmw mini" because they want to be seen as "well to do" as people who drive "real" bmw's.Lets be honest these people are jealous of those who can afford a 3 series or 5 series,.Its a way of making you respect a mini more because its made my bmw.I personally dont regard the mini as a bmw.And another thing, i bet the people who call their mini's a "bmw" are the people who own mini "one"'s that cost around 20k, not the people who own "cooper s"'s that cost circa 40k

KTRIC · 14-02-2008 9:48pm

I'm living in Munich and the Mini is as common as muck. I personally liked them until I came here.

They're as common as a Micra in Tallaght :rolleyes:

The people in Ireland who think they're driving a BMW need to get some serious cop-on.

Plug · 14-02-2008 10:28pm

Skoda's are Audi's for mean people:D

JHMEG · 14-02-2008 10:38pm

Zonda999 wrote: »

these people are jealous of those who can afford a 3 series or 5 series,

BMWs are lasting longer than they used to, meaning pretty much any scumbag can afford one.

Ciara2008 · 14-02-2008 10:45pm

PMSL at anyone thinking BMW is snobbish - there are more 3 series on the road these days than Ford Mondeo's.

However, BMW do have a good reputation when it comes to manufacturing cars. I have a new MINI and as a previous poster said, I would distinguish the type of MINI i have by capitalising the letters - however, a lot of people aren't aware of that so BMW is an obvious way to separate the two. Why do you think people advertise "Austin Mini's" - I'm sure 7 years ago they could just have been advertised as mini's.

Anyway, my point is; you are referring to ads on carzone - perhaps people selling these MINI's want to associate the cars with BMW as a repuatable brand and car manufacturer to potential buyers. I sincerly doubt that when asked what they drive they say "BMW Mini"

This thread is ridiculous

Zonda999 · 14-02-2008 10:54pm

JHMEG wrote: »

BMWs are lasting longer than they used to, meaning pretty much any scumbag can afford one.

I've always considered the 5 series to be a scumbags car TBH, especially the pre-1996 model

E92 · 14-02-2008 11:31pm

Zonda999 wrote: »

I've always considered the 5 series to be a scumbags car TBH, especially the pre-1996 model

I know these things are personal opinions, but how did you reach that conclusion

? (when all the boy racers who I presume you are referring to as "scumbags" that have BMWs have a 3 series, usually an E36, or else an E30)

A modified 5 series is a rare event really.

As for scumbags being able to afford them, has anyone seen the prices that E30s go for, even though the newest ones would be 17 years old(15 for the pedantic around here, cause they didn't kill off the Baur top(cabrio) till 93, but got rid of the E30 saloon in 91)? They may be cheap to buy but if anything goes wrong you'll pay dearly if you use proper BMW parts, plus insurance is expensive for E30s and E36s these days so I'm told.

Zonda999 · 14-02-2008 11:37pm

I'm not sure how i came to that conclusion.I guess that the pre - 1996 model(and current model) are aggresive looking cars.I thought that that appeals to scum.BTW i know whatya mean about the boy racers.Mainly 316's i notice.Affordibility issues......

14-02-2008 11:47pm

randomer wrote: »

Why do some Mini drivers put such an emphasis on the BMW part?

I was doing a search on Carzone for a BMW M and the resultes showed four people who have BMW M ini's for sale?

If someone is looking for a mini I doubt they are going to look here.

Why do they do it? Is it a snobish thing?

Perhaps because the new ones are made by BMW?

Mr.Diagnostic · 14-02-2008 11:54pm

JHMEG wrote: »

BMWs are lasting longer than they used to, meaning pretty much any scumbag can afford one.

The anti-BMW undercurrents have become every bit as boring as they are ridiculous. They are cars, not a way of live.

BMW’s are not in any way a perfect entity, they are cars, nothing more or less. The same is true of Honda and all other makes. None of them are any more than cars nor are any of them a valid basis for a physiological outlook of any kind.

Here’s a mad thought for you. People who drive cars are individuals, no matter what brand of car that is. Some are assholes, some not. Go figure.

Mr.Diagnostic · 14-02-2008 11:57pm

ronoc wrote: »

Perhaps because the new ones are made by BMW?

Thats the most logical answer possible to this. Well done

Mr.Diagnostic · 14-02-2008 11:59pm

Zonda999 wrote: »

I've always considered the 5 series to be a scumbags car TBH, especially the pre-1996 model

Zonda999 wrote: »

I'm not sure how i came to that conclusion.I guess that the pre - 1996 model(and current model) are aggresive looking cars.I thought that that appeals to scum.BTW i know whatya mean about the boy racers.Mainly 316's i notice.Affordibility issues......

Any more gems of wisdom for us?

TJJP · 15-02-2008 12:00am

JHMEG wrote: »

BMWs are lasting longer than they used to, meaning pretty much any scumbag can afford one.

Yup, pretty soon all the scoobes will be selling their 'tegs' to buy newer '94 320's...

JHMEG · 15-02-2008 12:02am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

The anti-BMW undercurrents have become every bit as boring as they are ridiculous.

Jeez, I can't say anything about BMW now in case it's construed as a slur? FFS. Scumbags are individuals too you know, and yes, scumbags drive Hondas aswell.

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 12:05am

JHMEG wrote: »

Jeez, I can't say anything about BMW now in case it's construed as a slur? FFS. Scumbags are individuals too you know, and yes, scumbags drive Hondas aswell.

yeah, but still boring.

Any logical opinions?

15-02-2008 12:07am

You know this thread kind of is it for me. There seems to be very little actual intelligent car chat on this forum anymore.

Mods feel free to ban me from motors, I’ve had enough of this tripe.

Slante

JHMEG · 15-02-2008 12:10am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

yeah, but still boring.

Any logical opinions?

If I bore you feel free to use your ignore list.

I can't believe some people get upset at the notion of scumbags owning BMWs.

randomer · 15-02-2008 12:16am

milltown wrote: »

I'm just waiting for people to pull you up on calling Mini owners snobbish when you were looking for a BMW.

It's the Boards way, don't you know.

I didn't actually call anyone a snob. I just threw that out there to see if that was a possible reason?

If I was looking to buy a MINI, I would search under MINI (make) and then choose the specific model (cooper, one etc.)

It seems to me to be a bit of a waste of an advertisment because very few people looking for a MINI would search for BMW (Make) and M (Model).

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 12:19am

JHMEG wrote: »

I can't believe some people get upset at the notion of scumbags owning BMWs. That takes the BMW-arse-licking to new lows.

Dear me, who is it that is upset?
Did you not read what i posted? (quoted below for you, jut to make it simple)

Just for the hell of it, and to relieve the boredom, can you point out to me where i exhibited any tendency towards "BMW arse-licking"?

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

The anti-BMW undercurrents have become every bit as boring as they are ridiculous. They are cars, not a way of live.

BMW’s are not in any way a perfect entity, they are cars, nothing more or less. The same is true of Honda and all other makes. None of them are any more than cars nor are any of them a valid basis for a physiological outlook of any kind.

Here’s a mad thought for you. People who drive cars are individuals, no matter what brand of car that is. Some are assholes, some not. Go figure.

OPPS, sorry, I quoted you before you had the chance to edit it

Biro · 15-02-2008 12:24am

Zonda999 wrote: »

I think that people call their mini's "bmw mini" because they want to be seen as "well to do" as people who drive "real" bmw's.Lets be honest these people are jealous of those who can afford a 3 series or 5 series,.Its a way of making you respect a mini more because its made my bmw.I personally dont regard the mini as a bmw.And another thing, i bet the people who call their mini's a "bmw" are the people who own mini "one"'s that cost around 20k, not the people who own "cooper s"'s that cost circa 40k

People are stupid when it comes to badges and Reg's. Still, I'd have more respect for a 20k MINI than a 38k 316i. I don't consider the 1-series to be a car worth mentioning at all.

JHMEG · 15-02-2008 12:25am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

Dear me, who is it that is upset?
Did you not read what i posted? (quoted below for you, jut to make it simple)

Just for the hell of it, and to relieve the boredom, can you point out to me where i exhibited any tendency towards "BMW arse-licking"?

OPPS, sorry, I quoted you before you had the chance to edit it

You're not actually making any sense now...

Dunno what your point is about editing? I edited my post, so what?

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 12:42am

JHMEG wrote: »

You're not actually making any sense now...

Dunno what your point is about editing? I edited my post, so what?

Its quite simple, you posted in answer to me that i was arse licking BMW's

I asked you to point out where I had done that.

Do try and keep up like a good lad

Zonda999 · 15-02-2008 12:48am

Biro wrote: »

People are stupid when it comes to badges and Reg's. Still, I'd have more respect for a 20k MINI than a 38k 316i. I don't consider the 1-series to be a car worth mentioning at all.

Indeed how come we dont hear much about the 1 series on boards for all the attention bmw's seem to get?????

JHMEG · 15-02-2008 12:48am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

Its quite simple, you posted in answer to me that i was arse licking BMW's

I asked you to point out where I had done that.

Do try and keep up like a good lad

I removed the arse licking bit long before you posted, and subsequently mis-quoted me. Tis yourself that needs to keep up matey.;)

TJJP · 15-02-2008 12:50am

Zonda999 wrote: »

Indeed how come we dont hear much about the 1 series on boards for all the attention bmw's seem to get?????

Probably 'cause they are pretty rare here in Ireland, this I'd expect is mostly because they are very poor value for money.

Zonda999 · 15-02-2008 12:51am

A poor car in general then???Will any bmw diehards admit to that??

milltown · 15-02-2008 12:59am

Nevvah!

IMHO they're a pretty ordinary, pretty cramped hatchback with an extra-ordinary pricetag. I consider Golf GTis to be ridiculously priced but a decent performing car for the money. The 1 on the other hand will cost an arm and a leg for GTi performance. Having said that, the 120d is a quick and frugal little thing for people with no more than one friend and no weekly shopping.

Biro · 15-02-2008 1:00am

Zonda999 wrote: »

A poor car in general then???Will any bmw diehards admit to that??

To me it's akin to paying a few grand for manure. Manure with a badge on it!

Zonda999 · 15-02-2008 1:03am

1 series = pointless car

And the "new" coupe and cabrio does nothing to change that

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 1:04am

I clicked the quote button so I cant see how I could have mis-quoted you??

You said I was arse licking BMW's...........point out where I did that?

The point is that I am not blindly defending BMW's. On the contrary, I have done the opposite.

It has to be asked, why do you hate an inanimate object (BMW Car) so much?

Biro · 15-02-2008 1:05am

Zonda999 wrote: »

1 series = pointless car

And the "new" coupe and cabrio does nothing to change that

The 1-series coupe looks like a 3-series shrank in the wash, but not evenly!

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 1:06am

hey Zonda999, just to keep this thread entertaining, can you qualify the 5 series suumbags comment you made above?

JHMEG · 15-02-2008 1:10am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

I clicked the quote button so I cant see how I could have mis-quoted you??

Because this is the internet and I can "unsay" things: I said something and took it back. Several minutes later you quoted me as saying it.

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

You said I was arse licking BMW's...........point out where I did that?

I didn't mention you specifically. You took me up that way. You work on BMWs for a living, so it's not surprising.

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

The point is that I am not blindly defending BMW's. On the contrary, I have done the opposite.

You've given us your philosophy on cars, which is fine, but I don't have to agree with it.

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

It has to be asked, why do you hate an inanimate object (BMW Car) so much?

It has to be asked: when I say something about BMW that can be construed as negative why do people jump down my throat? I have no problem with BMW cars.. as cars they're generally quite good, usually not class leaders, but very often blindly over-rated, and have a higher than average proportion of owners who are w@nkers from what I can see.

Zonda999 · 15-02-2008 1:12am

Sorry if i offended you MR DIAGNOSTIC.That was just my two cents as it were.I'm sure that the vast majority of 5 series owners are not scumbags at all.I'll take back that comment if its upset you so much.After all they are just "inanimate" objects as another user has said.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=856985

52 grand for a 1 series diesel.Its not even the most powerful diesel and the particular car does'nt even have sat nav...Would you be well?????

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 1:16am

JHMEG wrote: »

BMW cars.. as cars they're generally quite good, .

at last, something we can agree on

hey, dont blame me, its the internet and I can quote what i want

JHMEG · 15-02-2008 1:18am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

at last, something we can agree on

hey, dont blame me, its the internet and I can quote what i want

I knew you were a BMW fanboy, and would blurt it out sooner or later;)

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 1:20am

Zonda999 wrote: »

Sorry if i offended you MR DIAGNOSTIC.That was just my two cents as it were.I'm sure that the vast majority of 5 series owners are not scumbags at all.I'll take back that comment if its upset you so much.After all they are just "inanimate" objects as another user has said.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=856985

52 grand for a 1 series diesel.Its not even the most powerful diesel and the particular car does'nt even have sat nav...Would you be well?????

Dont worry, didnt upset me at all. i was just wondering if there was any actual reasoning behind it. Seems not.

I am not so sure there are many 5 series being driven by inanimate objects though

Mr.Diagnostic · 15-02-2008 1:24am

JHMEG wrote: »

I knew you were a BMW fanboy, and would blurt it out sooner or later;)

Ahh, but you see I am a fanboy..................of cars!
I like some BMW's some Mercs and a few others. I am even looking online for a Honda right now.

Zonda999 · 15-02-2008 1:26am

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

I am not so sure there are many 5 series being driven by inanimate objects though

This is being driven by an inanimate object.Its not a 5 series but close enough

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=t2y3Y14PVgY

"BMW" Mini

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