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Facebooking dead people

  • 27-02-2013 9:23pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭BidillyBo


    I've seen it a couple of times recently where people have been writing to people who have died on facebook. One page I saw the person mother writes a big long thing to them pretty much everyday and the other one I saw was someone I know who died about a year and a half ago and still the parents and few friends write to them with different things.

    I just think its a bit of a strange thing to do, I'm no physiologist but I wouldn't have thought that it can be particularly healthy to be doing it in such a public way.

    I want to say its fishing for like but I know that's not true but its almost as if the people writing are trying to prove to everyone who can see that their still thinking of them instead of doing it privately.I'm not religious in any way but i still think their has to be a better way than praying over facebook. Any thoughts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Someone could "frape" them saying, "I'm back, bitches" or something along those crude lines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    I dunno. It might seem strange that it's public, but I know people who still have the phone numbers of dead relatives on their phones and won't delete any messages from them. I know someone who used to call their dead relative's phone just so they could listen to their voice on the voicemail. I doubt she's the only person who's done that. Maybe the Facebook thing is just a newer version of that. I think it's part of the grieving process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    If you poke a dead person on Facebook does that count as necrophillia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Sorry but this is just weird attention seeking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    As soon as someone dies I immediately unfriend them on Facebook.

    F*ck you, you don't matter anymore.

    Laterz!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    I think it's comforting for some people, they need time to accept what's happened but there comes a time when the page should be closed for good.imo


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All it says to me is that the concept of privacy has mutated into something alien to the masses. No feeling is real to some people unless its witnessed online by 6000 of your closest friends, liked and commented on ad nauseum.

    This kind of thing, combined with endless photo's of peoples dinner plates, is why Facebook is no longer a part of my life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I wouldn't be into it tbh but I can see why people do it. Some people just find it too hard to let go and I'm sure it eases their hearts a bit.

    No different than being beside the grave and speaking to the headstone.

    Although, I'm putting a request in my will that if I die in the near future to come on here and abuse people until the Mod's kill my account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,989 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have never joined FB but I watch as nearly everyone I know or work with is obsessed with it. I simply do not get it at all, is has mutated from what it was originally designed to be, and the idea of pages to dead people basically sums up how cr@p it has become.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭RaRaRasputin


    Don't know...I am grateful to haven't been in a situation like this but I gues it doesn't harm anyone and maybe helps them grieve... I don't see anything wrong with it, though I think I'd prefer to keep thinks like that private.


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No different than being beside the grave and speaking to the headstone.

    One is nothing like the other at all.

    One is a private act carried out unwitnessed, the other is a public display deliberately carried out in full view of hundreds of people.

    One seeks attention, the other doesn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Candie wrote: »
    One is nothing like the other at all.

    One is a private act carried out unwitnessed, the other is a public display deliberately carried out in full view of hundreds of people.

    One seeks attention, the other doesn't.

    The concept and meaning behind it are the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    What's worse is memorial pages. One was setup for a friend of mine who I've written about far too frequently for my liking on boards over the past few months, but anyway -- someone made a memorial page for her and then started posting christian messages and weird totally non-related pictures and things to the girl, obviously just because between just two of the memorial pages there are 30,000 "fans".

    Fcuking sick people in this world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    What's worse is memorial pages. One was setup for a friend of mine who I've written about far too frequently for my liking on boards over the past few months, but anyway -- someone made a memorial page for her and then started posting christian messages and weird totally non-related pictures and things to the girl, obviously just because between just two of the memorial pages there are 30,000 "fans".

    Fcuking sick people in this world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Muir


    I think maybe, it's like their way of trying to still feel close to the person. Like if you aren't one for praying and you still want to "talk" to them, and maybe facebook was one of the ways you used to talk to them so that's what you do. Like I know people who have text/left voicemails for people who passed away which would never be seen or heard so it wasn't an attention thing, but it helped them. I know some people really dislike it though, like if it's someone they were close to they hate seeing people are posting on their page. Everyone has their own way of dealing with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Although, I'm putting a request in my will that if I die in the near future to come on here and abuse people until the Mod's kill my account.

    I have an entire section dedicated to my online activities and how the accounts are to be handled...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I have an entire section dedicated to my online activities and how the accounts are to be handled...

    Delete, delete, delete......burn the computer! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Facebook & Twitter have become so much a part of people's lives that before long we'll see gravestones with integrated scrolling FB/Twitter feeds on them. Actually I'm surprised we haven't seen that already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭RaRaRasputin


    Candie wrote: »
    One is nothing like the other at all.

    One is a private act carried out unwitnessed, the other is a public display deliberately carried out in full view of hundreds of people.

    One seeks attention, the other doesn't.


    Yeah agreed, though I have some understanding for this sort of attention because it might remind the deceased's friends of the person and will trigger a reaction that causes the dead person to be remembered.

    In all fairness, rather posts like that (if it is sometimes) rather than pictures of dinners or updates on your bowel problems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 714 ✭✭✭PlainP


    I hate facebook, it's a pile of sh\te.



    .....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    You're certainly no physiologist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭monkeypants


    Mark Zuckerberg keeps all the dead people in cryogenic storage according to the Facebook terms and conditions. Fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    fatknacker wrote: »
    You're certainly no physiologist.

    physiologist :confused:


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Someone could "frape" them saying, "I'm back, bitches" or something along those crude lines.

    My lovely, funny, dead friend, to whom I'm still connected on facebook, would love that! Freaked me out at first when I'd get ads for things telling me that she liked them or, once, being invited to check in with her. :D

    There is a case for "digital forgetting" - a gradual fading out of data that could be a combination of digital inactivity and decisions by the uploader. I heard a BBC documentary I can't find atm, in which a mother wanted to access her dead daughter's page to archive it for herself and close it to the public as she found it upsetting to get alerts when someone wrote on it.

    Here's a recent essay on the issue, outlining the various companies' positions on digital legacy. Unsurprisingly, it's a mess as social media are still young.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324677204578188220364231346.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 714 ✭✭✭PlainP


    fatknacker wrote: »
    You're certainly no physiologist.

    Philosophist???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭La_Gordy


    An acquaintance of mine was murdered two years ago and I had to block his Facebook page as our friends posting on it was so upsetting, and I'd upset myself by looking at things he said, YouTube clips he posted, things he laughed at. What pushed me to blocking it really though was when people posted pictures of his funeral and for fear they'd start tagging his casket I had to. Awful awful this Facebook pish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To



    Although, I'm putting a request in my will that if I die in the near future to come on here and abuse people until the Mod's kill my account.
    When you see me in the Zombie forum you'll know I've popped my clogs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Boombastic wrote: »
    physiologist :confused:


    :pac:

    That's what he said...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    Black Mirror, series 2; 'Be Right Back'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    BidillyBo wrote: »
    people who have died on facebook.

    I've heard people giving out about facebook but I didn't know it was dangerous :p


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know of a teenager who died the week before Christmas, his mam writes on his wall almost every day, I'm not friends with her or with him, but a lot of my friends are so when people comment or like a status, it ends up in my feed.

    I don't like it. It's not for me.

    However, people grieve differently, people don't follow a set of rules when they lose a loved one - such rules simply don't exist because none of us are the same. Although someone else may lose a child in similar circumstances to this lady, noone will ever know what she's feeling except her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭BidillyBo


    What's worse is memorial pages. One was setup for a friend of mine who I've written about far too frequently for my liking on boards over the past few months, but anyway -- someone made a memorial page for her and then started posting christian messages and weird totally non-related pictures and things to the girl, obviously just because between just two of the memorial pages there are 30,000 "fans".

    Fcuking sick people in this world

    That's another one I never get. Sorry about your friend but I'm sure they didn't have 30000 friends, some people seem to just click onto every rip page that pops up, I don't know are they trying to seem caring or what their reason is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    I guess if I didn't do it myself I would say it is weird. My brother died nearly 2 years ago he was 22. We were incredibly close and always had a laugh on Facebook. I got his page memorialised after he died. I go onto his page maybe once a week but last year I would have been on his page a lot more. It comforts me to see his friends haven't forgotten about him. He went suddenly and accidentally so it's nice to be able to look back on the stuff he would post up as he was hilariously funny and I miss him terribly. I can tell you with all honestly that it's not for attention. It's just a place to go that he used a lot. I go to his grave also of course each week.

    Edited to say after my brother died he got about 50 friend requests which I thought was peculiar. I declined every one of them. I also got about 30 friend requests that I declined. Friends of friends.




  • One of my friends was murdered just over a year ago and people still write on her page most days and tag her in photos they've found of her. I think it's just a way to deal with it all. She was very popular, very young and her death was tragic and sudden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Whether I think I'd do it myself or not, criticising people for how they deal with the loss of someone close isn't cool. Loads of stuff in the FB thread on here makes me cringe but this is something I won't ever judge someone on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭cuana


    A close friend of mine passed away though none of us tend to post comments on his page I do enjoy occasionally going through a picture of memories :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    La_Gordy wrote: »
    An acquaintance of mine was murdered two years ago and I had to block his Facebook page as our friends posting on it was so upsetting, and I'd upset myself by looking at things he said, YouTube clips he posted, things he laughed at. What pushed me to blocking it really though was when people posted pictures of his funeral and for fear they'd start tagging his casket I had to. Awful awful this Facebook pish

    Yeah - this one got me. Taking photos at a funeral. Is this remotely normal or ok?

    A few years ago, I had to stop myself from doing it. I was telling my uncle in Australia who couldn't make it home all about the funeral. I was reading his memorial piece at the church.
    Anyway, for some reason, I came out the wrong door of the church, and I was standing half way up to the graveyard watching the funeral procession coming up. I had the phone in my hand, ready to take a few photos for my uncle & then thought 'what the fcuk are you doing? Taking photos at a funeral'. So I stopped.

    To me, it seems weird. But then maybe it is ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    I know someone who used to call their dead relative's phone just so they could listen to their voice on the voicemail.
    Muir wrote: »
    Like I know people who have text/left voicemails for people who passed away which would never be seen or heard so it wasn't an attention thing, but it helped them.

    These broke my heart, I'm in tears! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Someone could "frape" them saying, "I'm back, bitches" or something along those crude lines.
    a vile waster from the UK did that; setting up accounts under peoples names who were killled in difficult circumstances [apologies from the bottom of heart for posting a daily mail link]-
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036935/Natasha-MacBryde-death-Facebook-internet-troll-Sean-Duffy-jailed.html
    thankfuly got jailed for it.


    as for this facebook praying thing going on,can understand if it helps people come to terms with it,perhaps help them feel like the person may even see it from wherever they are-if that is their belief and it helps them then so be it.
    its common practice on catster;which is like facebook but for peoples cats instead.
    its good to celebrate their lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭da_shivsta


    I look at my friend's page, but nobody has commented since he died. The last comment is his best, closest friend and I think it's right that it's left that way. It brings tears to me when I see it and I've never wanted to write on his wall but then some people just deal differently. My uncle's partner took pics of him in his coffin. Another family member has pics on FB of her baby that sadly passed away. I don't like to see them but I just hide from my News Feed and let her grieve whichever way she needs....


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  • Queen-Mise wrote: »
    Yeah - this one got me. Taking photos at a funeral. Is this remotely normal or ok?

    A few years ago, I had to stop myself from doing it. I was telling my uncle in Australia who couldn't make it home all about the funeral. I was reading his memorial piece at the church.
    Anyway, for some reason, I came out the wrong door of the church, and I was standing half way up to the graveyard watching the funeral procession coming up. I had the phone in my hand, ready to take a few photos for my uncle & then thought 'what the fcuk are you doing? Taking photos at a funeral'. So I stopped.

    To me, it seems weird. But then maybe it is ok.

    I have a whole story about a guy who came to my friend's funeral, took pictures and posted them all on Facebook with the casket tagged as her. I've posted it on here a few times. One of the most self-centered, disrespectful things I've ever witnessed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    I think someone going on to a deceased persons page to look at old pictures is understandable. What I don't get are people who link songs from Youtube quoting "For you Dad..." and stuff like that.

    A few weeks back I saw someone who had their status as "Mam, I don't know if they have Facebook in heaven but just in case they do - Happy Birthday". Silly thing is I don't think she even had a Facebook page when she was alive!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Maybe it brings comfort to some people to that their son, brother or whatever is being remembered. It's not something I'd do myself but I wouldn't criticise someone else for doing it if they get something out of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    i will be telling my best mate to take controll of my fb account , change my picture to a zombie one of me and start talking to people

    i trust him not to be rude , crude or upset anyone , but to have some fun with it.
    my wife has been told and does not mind , its not for a long term thing , just to freak a few people out :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    I dunno. It might seem strange that it's public, but I know people who still have the phone numbers of dead relatives on their phones and won't delete any messages from them. I know someone who used to call their dead relative's phone just so they could listen to their voice on the voicemail. I doubt she's the only person who's done that. Maybe the Facebook thing is just a newer version of that. I think it's part of the grieving process.
    Someone better warn them that the mobile provider recycles unused numbers after about a year, you don't want to be there when the called phone answers!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    I have a whole story about a guy who came to my friend's funeral, took pictures and posted them all on Facebook with the casket tagged as her. I've posted it on here a few times. One of the most self-centered, disrespectful things I've ever witnessed.

    That is horrific. I presume he didn't even realise how inconsiderate that was. Did anyone ever say anything to him? Did the family know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Queen-Mise wrote: »
    That is horrific. I presume he didn't even realise how inconsiderate that was. Did anyone ever say anything to him? Did the family know?

    Some people don't seem to know where the line is. It's a bit disturbing to hear of people whipping out cameras at funerals, never mind posting the pictures on facebook. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Someone better warn them that the mobile provider recycles unused numbers after about a year, you don't want to be there when the called phone answers!!

    It's already happened. Heard someone on the Ray D'Arcy show talking about that years ago. They petitioned the company to save the number or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭La_Gordy


    I've seen two different sets of open casket photos on Facebook. One was somebody I didn't know but I still found it upsetting and disrespectful. When it was my friend I felt very angry but this was done because none of his family could make it to the funeral. I hated it, hence the preemptive blocking, and I doubt it brought them any comfort but who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭La_Gordy


    Scruffles wrote: »
    a vile waster from the UK did that; setting up accounts under peoples names who were killled in difficult circumstances [apologies from the bottom of heart for posting a daily mail link]-
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036935/Natasha-MacBryde-death-Facebook-internet-troll-Sean-Duffy-jailed.html
    thankfuly got jailed for it.

    That meme is horrific


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