Donal Dineen on 2XM / 2FM

ford fiesta · 29-10-2013 1:45am #1

Just listening to him filling in for Dan Hegarty. As with all Donal's shows since he started in RTE radio, he sounds as if he's using a home radio/tape recorder for his links! Can anyone confirm where he does the show from...is it the radio centre?

July Rain · 30-10-2013 4:15pm

I don't know why 2fm have such obscure programs on.

ghostdancer · 30-10-2013 5:37pm

July Rain wrote: »

I don't know why 2fm have such obscure programs on.

well it can't be all day wall-to-wall MOR sh1t like The Script, Adele and Kodaline....

ford fiesta · 30-10-2013 6:58pm

I don't understand why they have hours and hours of obscure dance on at the weekend overnights. Bring back 'Nightime on 2'!!

testarossa40 · 31-10-2013 12:00am

The OP's question asked where Donal Dineen's shows are recorded/broadcast from? Anyone?

OP, agree with observation that the audio quality of his shows are generally pretty lo-fi...

ford fiesta · 28-04-2014 7:18pm

Surprised there was no word on this here ....Donal had his final show on RTE 2XM on Friday and this was repeated on RTE 2FM this morning at 1am. It mainly consisted of an interview with him talking radio etc by singer/songwriter Lisa O'Neill

Is his departure part of the 2FM re-shuffle?. If so why wasn't he kept on 2XM? He didn't very last long..

http://www.rte.ie/2fm/radio-activity-with-donal-dineen/

telecinesk · 29-04-2014 9:49am

ford fiesta wrote: »

I don't understand why they have hours and
hours of obscure dance on at the weekend overnights. Bring back
'Nightime on 2'!!

Ford, i have been reading Your posts for a while now and one of Your
agendas is clear: "RTE GOLD IS EPIC, DANCE MUSIC SUX"

I have to mark Your card on this.

Let's start with this thread - it's about donal and the quality of his
audio - You would know if You listened, that show/slot is recorded while
being cast on 2XM in the mornings in RTE's digital radio studio for
re-broadcast at night on 2FM, and You must know donal's style is less
charlie wolf, and more whispering bob. So, where did this attack on
modern music come from? donal never played 'dance' music on any of his
shows! he specialised in leftfied, coldwave and indie-electronica! he
champions modern singer/songwriters, and never stoops to play anything
trivial. Your attempt to lump him in with the electronic music
friday/saturday clearly demonstrates your total lack of understanding of
both cultures. It's like comparing cricket with frying pans.

Now to Your constant spamming re: RTE GOLD IN, DANCE OUT. Please, give
it a rest. It's never going to happen. 2fm is about the now and the new,
it's not about the safe and easy path of least resistance that is
nostalgia. Ireland does not need yet another hugbox churning out the
rubbish our dads grew up with - that is PLAYED OUT. Anyone can fall back
on the "classics" because they have no balls and won't trust their own
judgement about what is good new music! That ship sailed when the
internet brought us every "classic" we grew up with on demand. (see:
youtube.com - everything from fats domino to KC and the sunshine band
24/7 at your fingertips) But, The "Dance" music on 2FM is world class,
delivered by the movers and shakers in the industry. Let me relate it to
something You might understand a little better: imagine in 1982 having
Paul McCartney, Joan Jett and Giorgio Moroder presenting shows on Your
station. Why in gods name would You replace this with some pensioner
playing Toimmy Steele and Vera Lynn?? OK, any clearer now?

OK, back on thread topic - Donal was/is quirky, his style and content is
about being different and he lacks the slickness 2fm is finally
insisting on, i'm shocked to read he might be finished at RTE, this is a
loss to the industry, and can only dumb things down in the long run. I
hope it's not the end for him...

Davarus Walrus · 29-04-2014 10:27am

telecinesk wrote: »

Now to Your constant spamming re: RTE GOLD IN, DANCE OUT. Please, give
it a rest. It's never going to happen. 2fm is about the now and the new,
it's not about the safe and easy path of least resistance that is
nostalgia. Ireland does not need yet another hugbox churning out the
rubbish our dads grew up with - that is PLAYED OUT. Anyone can fall back
on the "classics" because they have no balls and won't trust their own
judgement about what is good new music! That ship sailed when the
internet brought us every "classic" we grew up with on demand. (see:
youtube.com - everything from fats domino to KC and the sunshine band
24/7 at your fingertips) But, The "Dance" music on 2FM is world class,
delivered by the movers and shakers in the industry. Let me relate it to
something You might understand a little better: imagine in 1982 having
Paul McCartney, Joan Jett and Giorgio Moroder presenting shows on Your
station. Why in gods name would You replace this with some pensioner
playing Toimmy Steele and Vera Lynn?? OK, any clearer now?

Does anyone actually listen to dance music on a Saturday night at midnight? If I was into that genre of music then I'd be in a club dancing and chewing the face off myself. Or I'd have downloaded a mix from soundcloud. Not tuning into 2FM.

spangles muldoon · 29-04-2014 10:35am

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Does anyone actually listen to dance music on a Saturday night at midnight? If I was into that genre of music then I'd be in a club dancing and chewing the face off myself. Or I'd have downloaded a mix from soundcloud. Not tuning into 2FM.

you aren't into that genre, so it's clearly not for you is it.

Davarus Walrus · 29-04-2014 11:01am

spangles muldoon wrote: »

you aren't into that genre, so it's clearly not for you is it.

It doesn't mean I can't have an opinion though. Why would someone listen to dance music on a Saturday night on the radio? Who are the audience? Are they not likely to be in a club listening to a live mix, or using sites like soundcloud/mixcloud to check out new music?

reg114 · 29-04-2014 11:07am

telecinesk wrote: »

2fm is about the now and the new,

But, The "Dance" music on 2FM is world class

he lacks the slickness 2fm is finally
insisting on,...

There is nothing 'now or new' about 2FM. 2fm is an irrelevant overindulged dinosaur of a radio station.
When I hear Dave Fanning, Hogan, Hayes I don't think New or now.

The very fact that 2fm relegate their 'dance' programmes to obscure times in the middle of the night when so few people are listening just shows how much 2fm prioritize the world class dance music you speak of.

Finally 2fm is far from slick, tune into Lottie Ryan at the weekend and you'll appreciate just how dreadful the station has become. If you can't tune in at the weekend try weekday breakfast, a more woefully inept flagship programme you won't find on Irish radio. Colm Hayes? slick? No.

The imaging sounds jaded, production values are poor, their playout system is also dated. Time is running out fast for 2fm, it's been indulged for far too long.

spangles muldoon · 29-04-2014 11:12am

not everybody can afford to go clubbing every weekend, just like not everybody can afford to go to a gig every weekend. discovering new music without having to pay at the door, buy drink and pay for taxis is how it works now. with respect, you already said you aren't into the genre, so your opinion is not really an opinion, is it?

here, why don't you get one of these: http:// www . staff.science.uu.nl/~tel00101/FotoAlbum/RadioCorner/Sets/Fanon.htm it will allow you to play at radio, it's safely from another era, it attaches to your zimmerframe, and because it only get AM you can be sure you won't hear donal dineen or any scary modern music.

Uepped · 29-04-2014 11:17am

Although 2fm's schedule is not 100% perfect it is an improvement on 12 months ago. Dan Healy wanted Brian and Dara for drivetime but because Colm Hayes signed a five year contract with John McMahon in 2011, he had to be accommodated.

Davarus Walrus · 29-04-2014 11:27am

spangles muldoon wrote: »

not everybody can afford to go clubbing every weekend, just like not everybody can afford to go to a gig every weekend. discovering new music without having to pay at the door, buy drink and pay for taxis is how it works now. with respect, you already said you aren't into the genre, so your opinion is not really an opinion, is it?

here, why don't you get one of these: http:// www . staff.science.uu.nl/~tel00101/FotoAlbum/RadioCorner/Sets/Fanon.htm it will allow you to play at radio, it's safely from another era, it attaches to your zimmerframe, and because it only get AM you can be sure you won't hear donal dineen or any scary modern music.

But why would you listen to the Opinion Box to discover new music when you could use sites like soundcloud, mixcloud and hypemachine? It's far more interactive and easy to curate a playlist that matches your preferences. A 45 minute mix forced on you at 3am on a Sunday morning with no option to skip is a real waste of time. It's an extremely outdated way to listen to electronic music.

spangles muldoon · 29-04-2014 11:31am

reg114 wrote: »

There is nothing 'now or new' about 2FM. 2fm is an irrelevant overindulged dinosaur of a radio station.
When I hear Dave Fanning, Hogan, Hayes I don't think New or now.

so if the presenters were unknowns then the station would be more now and new ? personality is the icing on the cake, but the content makes it edible.

reg114 wrote: »

The very fact that 2fm relegate their 'dance' programmes to obscure times in the middle of the night when so few people are listening just shows how much 2fm prioritize the world class dance music you speak of.

running specialist music in daytime or when there is nobody there to hear it fails. look at phantom etc. even BBC6 and 1Xtra have the sense not to push the boat out from an empty quay.

reg114 wrote: »

Finally 2fm is far from slick, tune into Lottie Ryan at the weekend and you'll appreciate just how dreadful the station has become.

the 2fm boss was quoted recently as saying the off-peak slots were to be used to develop talent. you contradict yourself in so many ways laying into lottie. she IS new, she IS NOT hayes etc., and she will need many hours of breaking in before she can be in any way slick.

reg114 wrote: »

If you can't tune in at the weekend try weekday breakfast, a more woefully inept flagship programme you won't find on Irish radio. Colm Hayes? slick? No.

weekday brekfast is a hoot, sorry to disagree. my kids love it, and are lol'ing at some of the adult references i expect them not to get. Hayes though i have not been subjected to since he was replaced by yer man off the telly and jenny.

reg114 wrote: »

The imaging sounds jaded, production values are poor, their playout system is also dated. Time is running out fast for 2fm, it's been indulged for far too long.

The imaging is a carbon-copy of all other in-house imaging on every other station, so don't single out 2fm for the knock here. The production value actually exists on some 2FM slots, as they do more then cue up sequences of iTunes downloads and shout their names, so go ahead and dislike the effort, but you need a control or comparison to make that sweeping statement seem anything other then a jab. As for 'time running out' - the clock stopped 4 years ago tomorrow.

spangles muldoon · 29-04-2014 11:37am

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

But why would you listen to the Opinion Box to discover new music when you could use sites like soundcloud, mixcloud and hypemachine? It's far more interactive and easy to curate a playlist that matches your preferences. A 45 minute mix forced on you at 3am on a Sunday morning with no option to skip is a real waste of time. It's an extremely outdated way to listen to electronic music.

for someone that is 'not into the genre' you seem well versed in hanging out on soundcloud, mixcloud and the like! so i take it you are a DJ/producer? all You are doing is confirming there is an interest in this type of programming and style. you could argue that music ITSELF is available on iTunes and Youtube (etc.) so why have any on the radio at all!

what donal and company do is use their experience to select and recommend and champion new music. if you think that you can discover with soundcloud and mixcloud, then go ahead, enjoy your needle in a haystack.

Davarus Walrus · 29-04-2014 11:42am

spangles muldoon wrote: »

for someone that is 'not into the genre' you seem well versed in hanging out on soundcloud, mixcloud and the like! so i take it you are a DJ/producer? all You are doing is confirming there is an interest in this type of programming and style. you could argue that music ITSELF is available on iTunes and Youtube (etc.) so why have any on the radio at all!

what donal and company do is use their experience to select and recommend and champion new music. if you think that you can discover with soundcloud and mixcloud, then go ahead, enjoy your needle in a haystack.

I listened to Donal Dineen for years. And I still would if the hours suited. I'm not disputing the fact that a good passionate DJ can uncover good music. I question playing a predefined dance playlist for 7 or 8 hours on a Saturday night, especially when many of the target audience are out clubbing.

spangles muldoon · 29-04-2014 11:48am

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I listened to Donal Dineen for years. And I still would if the hours suited. I'm not disputing the fact that a good passionate DJ can uncover good music. I question playing a predefined dance playlist for 7 or 8 hours on a Saturday night, especially when many of the target audience are out clubbing.

read back - not everyone who likes electro goes clubbing every weekend, or at all. there is no playlist for donal or any of the other late night shows either, you must be thinking about a station like i104 or spin - they run playlist of dance/pop at night, 2fm do not and never have.this is something you would know if you had actually spent some time listening.

draiochtanois · 29-04-2014 11:57am

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reg114 · 29-04-2014 12:12pm

spangles muldoon wrote: »

so if the presenters were unknowns then the station would be more now and new ? personality is the icing on the cake, but the content makes it edible.

running specialist music in daytime or when there is nobody there to hear it fails. look at phantom etc. even BBC6 and 1Xtra have the sense not to push the boat out from an empty quay.

the 2fm boss was quoted recently as saying the off-peak slots were to be used to develop talent. you contradict yourself in so many ways laying into lottie. she IS new, she IS NOT hayes etc., and she will need many hours of breaking in before she can be in any way slick.

weekday brekfast is a hoot, sorry to disagree. my kids love it, and are lol'ing at some of the adult references i expect them not to get. Hayes though i have not been subjected to since he was replaced by yer man off the telly and jenny.

The imaging is a carbon-copy of all other in-house imaging on every other station, so don't single out 2fm for the knock here. The production value actually exists on some 2FM slots, as they do more then cue up sequences of iTunes downloads and shout their names, so go ahead and dislike the effort, but you need a control or comparison to make that sweeping statement seem anything other then a jab. As for 'time running out' - the clock stopped 4 years ago tomorrow.

If you're defending Breakfast republic whatsoever when the general consensus within and beyond the industry is that it's rubbish then you are part of a very small minority.

I read the article where Dan Healy mentioned off peak slots were for breaking new talent... this is a state broadcaster not a community station. A national station should not be used as a training ground for budding presenters. 2fm needed new voices, no reason why they couldn't be experienced professionals.

Defend the liners the imaging all you want, the station sounds untidy to me, and clearly to many other people too... after all the listenership is on the floor.

Seren_ · 29-04-2014 8:00pm

I really don't know how anyone can defend the 2FM imaging. It is awful.

Re: Donal Dineen - used to catch him now and again when he was on. Always enjoyed his music selection. Bit of a shame he won't be on again.

thesaurus2 · 29-04-2014 11:47pm

Uepped wrote: »

Although 2fm's schedule is not 100% perfect it is an improvement on 12 months ago. Dan Healy wanted Brian and Dara for drivetime but because Colm Hayes signed a five year contract with John McMahon in 2011, he had to be accommodated.

I find this hard to believe. Could he not have been accommodated in a graveyard slot?

I thought Dineen was initially axed, then spared the axe. Has he definitely gone or will he be back filing in for Dan Hegarty's show when Dan is off in Lanzarote meeting his 6 listeners?

chef without a plane · 01-05-2014 1:02pm

It’s sad to see Donal go, great presenter with a wealth of knowledge musically not matched by many in this country, although the show on 2fm never really launched into the public consciousness the way a respectable alternative show should have, this might have been the failing of 2fm or Donal to promote it properly or even just the general interest in a show like this? It wouldn’t surprise me that a lot of his previous listeners would be both surprised he had a new show and then doubly surprised that he no longer has it. I can only presume he is not continuing with 2xm as I don’t think digital presenters get any pay for their shows and he rightly doesn’t want to continue for free?

The 2fm rebranding has been, to my mind, a bit of a bitter transformation for me as a music lover, for years I have been a proponent for 2fm to clear out the old and establish itself as an Irish equivalent to BBC Radio 1; Bringing in young and fresh presenters for daytime output and shifting into specialist shows we can be proud of in the evenings. And in 2fms defence, they have made positive strides towards this with the new shows and presenters added and a more modern playlist incorporated into the daytime output no matter how hit and miss it has turned out.

The biggest casualty of Healy’s chop has been to the very little alternative evening music schedule they had. This notion of using the evenings to develop new talent is all good, but it would appear this just means 24 hours of upbeat chatty bubbly pap from people whose whacky opinions I have very little interest in. Where are the musicologists in the evening, educating the listener on the new or obscure and to provide in-depth interviews with up and coming Irish artists that go beyond ‘So what’s your favourite colour? – Do you like cake?’ It was these kinds of shows I was hoping were to be introduced but it would appear that this market is not part of 2fms vision and thankfully at least is being partially developed on the TXFMs evening line-up albeit on a miniscule scale.

As far as the clubbing output on the weekend, this is already being cut down to Saturdays by the look of it and I can only assume this will be the next to be cut, which is a shame as there does seem to be some decent output glancing at the playlists from the last few weeks being aired.

telecinesk · 04-05-2014 8:24am

"As far as the clubbing output on the weekend, this is already being cut down to Saturdays by the look of it and I can only assume this will be the next to be cut"

Yes agreed, you have to wonder whats the agenda there given "what" it was replaced with?
I say more toto & foreigner etc.. Oh sorry thats what Nova do...

Donal Dineen on 2XM / 2FM

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