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Unrealistic prices for second hand for Sale items.

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  • 28-03-2015 10:40pm
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    Markhor
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭


    I would just like to make a comment about the asking prices on items for sale.

    The prices for second-hand goods offered is way too high and bears little relationship to the actual value of used items.

    Say an item cost 400 euro new; well 20 percent of that is vat of 80 euro. Surely sellers do not expect buyers to pay for the vat a second time, then of course the items are usually used and not new and should therefore reduce to at least another 50 percent of their original value. So an item costing 400 euro new should be about 160 euro second-hand.

    I think sellers should consider what I stated above and be more realistic
    in their valuations and expectations.


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    badaj0z
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭badaj0z


    An item for sale is worth what people are prepared to pay for it, no more, no less. Calculations such as yours are not relevant.


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    steyrman
    Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭steyrman


    Hi markhor if that was to work I will offer you 350 for you spotting scope how are you with that deal ?


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    robertpatterson
    Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    Can't see this lasting


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    lefthooker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    There's two sides to sales;
    1) sellers asking outrageous prices hoping the buyer doesn't know the value, or
    2) buyers making derisory offers in the hope you're desperate to sell.
    The outrageous prices come about because the seller over paid for it themselves.

    With you're calculation, if you had an item valued at €400 would you sell it for €160??? I doubt it.
    If it was mine and let's assume it's in top condition, and you offered me €160 you'd hear me laugh across the whole country.


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    MrTom1
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭MrTom1


    Sell for as much as you want , just because you think it's €400 doesn't mean your going to get it. Same as a car you always half the price and start your negotiations from there


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    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Markhor wrote: »
    Say an item cost 400 euro new; well 20 percent of that is vat of 80 euro.
    And you can get it cheaply. But the person selling it won't have cleaned it since he bought it, and the trigger a bit loose.

    You're paying for the quality. If you don't like it, buy the cheap one a few searches down, and spend the equivalent of what you saved (or more) getting the gun back to proper working order.


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    Wildcard7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭Wildcard7


    badaj0z wrote: »
    An item for sale is worth what people are prepared to pay for it, no more, no less. Calculations such as yours are not relevant.

    ...and the seller is willing to let it go for.

    This can't be stated often enough though. Thank you.

    Having said that i do cringe when i see someone trying to sell something that i know i could get new for only 5% more.

    Op: that calculation of yours is ridiculous in so many ways it's beyond explaining. Even the vat bit is off. Were i to buy the item from you for 400€, i wouldn't pay vat *again*, the vat would simply pass on to me. This is the very definition of how vat works.


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    mil dot
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭mil dot


    it just shows you should always know the new price of something before you buy it secondhand . Also bear in mind you have no comeback when buying second hand privately. On saying that mostly people on this site have been straight forward and honest. Have got quite afew items second hand from here and been very happy and only been unhappy twice.


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    Sparks
    Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Firstly, to quote from the forum charter in For Sale/Wanted:
    [do] not reply saying "you can get X cheaper here" or "that's way too expensive";
    We don't care. Replies like that end up in flame wars. It is up to the Buyer to find that out. It is a Buyers market after all. If someone is way off the mark with an asking price (and we mean WAY off), post a link to the current available price (like-for-like, VAT, and postage must be commented on).
    In other words, caveat emptor. You're all grownups with a lot of technical knowledge of the things you're buying and selling, after all. There are some things the mods here don't want to even look at, let alone touch with a barge pole. Telling people in public how much their kit is worth second hand is very, very, very firmly in that category, thanks very much.

    And secondly,
    Mod Note: Keep it civil please.


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    dodderangler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Suppose il add my gun to this. I was robbed in the price according to lads on this who I believe and even pay out in Lucan said same yesterday when I went out. He said same gun with scope brand new would be under 500.
    Also ballistic Hornady is 25 off him and place in tallaght wants 36.


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    clivej
    Registered Users Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭clivej


    HAVE you's all not noted how Markhor has not replied


    don't feed a troll :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    tikkahunter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    dodderangler wrote: »
    Suppose il add my gun to this. I was robbed in the price according to lads on this who I believe and even pay out in Lucan said same yesterday when I went out. He said same gun with scope brand new would be under 500.
    Also ballistic Hornady is 25 off him and place in tallaght wants 36.
    11 yoyos a box more. So most will buy a hundred rounds so that's an extra 2 boxes in Lucan for a ten minute drive on the m50.Crazy.


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    deerhunter1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    steyrman wrote: »
    Hi markhor if that was to work I will offer you 350 for you spotting scope how are you with that deal ?

    +1


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    allan450
    Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭allan450


    Silly talk.2nd hand top glass you will not lose half on it.it nearly holds 2/3rds of the new retail price.


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    dodderangler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    11 yoyos a box more. So most will buy a hundred rounds so that's an extra 2 boxes in Lucan for a ten minute drive on the m50.Crazy.

    Absolutely mental isn't it.
    He even said he'd give me two boxes for 45 so even then he's doing a deal for me and he hardly knows me.
    Lads in tallaght know me from the old shop and some of them shoot same land I do and yet can hardly get a discount.


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