Jaffa cakes Biscuit or cake

WIZE · 09-06-2011 11:32pm #1

I know they are Jaffa Cakes but are they really ?

I say biscuit

kfallon · 09-06-2011 11:33pm

Sorry OP, AH does not do serious discussion :pac:

blackalicious · 09-06-2011 11:35pm

cake

nobody in their right mind thinks that they are cakes.

murrayp4 · 09-06-2011 11:36pm

A biscuit goes soft when stale
A cake goes hard when stale

Stale Jaffa Cakes are hard
ergo: A Jaffa Cake is a cake

Dudess · 09-06-2011 11:36pm

There was genuinely a court case about this, and in conclusion: see post above.

Although McVities ones are drier than Jacobs ones.

Jaffa cakes that is.

Jaffa cakes for the mother****ing win!

Cerocco · 09-06-2011 11:36pm

OK i'll bite. A cake goes hard when it goes stale, a biscuit goes soft. So a Jaffa cake is indeed a cake. And a nice one at that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fy1eTe3FPU

Sheeps · 09-06-2011 11:36pm

it can go stale so definitely a cake

Nevermind_ · 09-06-2011 11:37pm

Qi clip and explanation here about 2 mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyJPuY5xYA

Puck · 09-06-2011 11:37pm

They are officially cakes, because cakes go hard when they are stale and biscuits go soft. They may be very small cakes, but they are still cakes. The clue is in the name.

johnayo · 09-06-2011 11:37pm

The "divil" is in the name.

Absurdum · 09-06-2011 11:39pm

they are cakes cos the last few posters look like they know their ****

claireeney · 09-06-2011 11:40pm

cake

they're too fr!ggin small to be cakes. Cake is cake. Jaffa "cakes" are for havin with tea, cake is for havin with candles.

the word cake doesnt make sense anymore..... :pac:

ball · 09-06-2011 11:42pm

I was gonna say biscuits, then I remembered having this discussion before and arguing that they're cakes.

I'm gonna keep my mouth shut for this one

Orim · 09-06-2011 11:42pm

Legally cakes so McVites didn't have to pay tax.

In the UK, value added tax is payable on chocolate covered biscuits, but not on chocolate covered cakes. McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes in court, producing a 12" (30 cm) Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes. McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes in the UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes

Dunjohn · 09-06-2011 11:43pm

cake

They are officially cakes. They are REALLY biscuits.

ronaneire · 09-06-2011 11:43pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes

In the UK, value added tax is payable on chocolate covered biscuits, but not on chocolate covered cakes. McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes in court, producing a 12" (30 cm) Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes. McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes in the UK.[8]

Still nice though what ever they may be

Ficheall · 09-06-2011 11:44pm

They may be cakes legally and by name, granted, but they're obviously biscuits.

jaffa20 · 09-06-2011 11:44pm

Hmmmm jaffa cakes:pac:

I thought i felt my ears burning.

kfallon · 09-06-2011 11:47pm

Stale or fresh
Soft or hard
Cake or biscuit

Jaffa Cakes are fooking rank!!!

ball · 09-06-2011 11:48pm

Dunjohn wrote: »

They are officially cakes. They are REALLY biscuits.

REALLY?

Orim · 09-06-2011 11:50pm

Seriously for people saying biscuit, find me one other biscuit that goes hard when its old.

ballsymchugh · 09-06-2011 11:56pm

Dudess wrote: »

There was genuinely a court case about this, and in conclusion: see post above.

Although McVities ones are drier than Jacobs ones.

Jaffa cakes that is.

Jaffa cakes for the mother****ing win!

for those of you who don't want to read, clicky here scroll down to number 16, and move along to 15 minutes in. hilarious story of the court case.

im invisible · 09-06-2011 11:56pm

Orim wrote: »

McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes in court, producing a 12" (30 cm) Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.

i want

CrazyRabbit · 10-06-2011 12:16am

They are a cake, in biscuit form. So...a bit of both.

BTW, does anyone else feel sick after eating two boxes of them, or is it just me? Feckin' addictive they are.

OutlawPete · 10-06-2011 12:18am

On the bottom!! :mad:

Oh wait .. I mean, biscuit.

Miss Informed · 10-06-2011 12:25am

BISCUITS?? Don't be ridiculous. They're cakes. Teeny little cakes. Biscuits are rich teas, custard creams (euch) and lemon puffs. Biscuits are things to be served with tea. Biscuits are bland and dry, and remind me of English people wearing suits and dresses and sitting in the shade to keep pale so everyone knows that they're rich.

Jaffa cakes are absolutely not biscuits.

F***'s sake, some people.... :rolleyes:

the groutch · 10-06-2011 12:26am

who cares when you've got Chocolate Hobnobs

OutlawPete · 10-06-2011 12:29am

Miss Informed wrote: »

Jaffa cakes are absolutely not biscuits.

F***'s sake, some people.... :rolleyes:

So, if you were in someone house and they where eating Jaffa Cakes, you would say:

"Give us a cake!"

:pac:

If you seen a thief robbing a pack of Jaffa Cakes, you would say:

"Seen a guy robbing a packet of cakes!"

:pac::p

Orim · 10-06-2011 12:31am

kfallon wrote: »

Stale or fresh
Soft or hard
Cake or biscuit

Jaffa Cakes are fooking rank!!!

Nothing like a sneaky finger, eh?

Min · 10-06-2011 12:32am

cake

It is a biscuit cake, tasty and your stomach or tastebuds couldn't care less what it is once it doesn't have killer E coli.

Overheal · 10-06-2011 12:39am

murrayp4 wrote: »

A biscuit goes soft when stale
A cake goes hard when stale

Stale Jaffa Cakes are hard
ergo: A Jaffa Cake is a cake

But wait..... doesnt that mean a stale biscuit becomes a cake and a stale cake becomes a biscuit?

Kevin Duffy · 10-06-2011 1:22am

OutlawPete wrote: »

On the bottom!! :mad:

Oh wait .. I mean, biscuit.

Pete, don't lets through all that again! But we agree on something, British courts me hole, it's a biscuit.

orourkeda · 10-06-2011 1:24am

WIZE wrote: »

I know they are Jaffa Cakes but are they really ?

I say biscuit

Did you enjoy QI?

orourkeda · 10-06-2011 1:25am

murrayp4 wrote: »

A biscuit goes soft when stale
A cake goes hard when stale

Stale Jaffa Cakes are hard
ergo: A Jaffa Cake is a cake

Well done Stephen Fry. It stuck in at least one head.

Gillington · 10-06-2011 1:26am

"Here Johnny,will you pack up this case of Jaffa Cakes,top shelf on the biscuit aisle"

Biscuits

Doc · 10-06-2011 1:26am

Full moon.... Half moon... Total eclipse!!!

Omm noommm noommm

Orim · 10-06-2011 1:31am

They're cakes. They are just small cakes.

You don't go around calling cupcakes biscuits do you?

You're all just sizeist.

Kojak · 10-06-2011 1:31am

Does it really matter what they are called? They'll all end up the same at the end of the day

dfx- · 10-06-2011 1:34am

The McVities and Jacobs versions are not worth the moral anguish of answering this question. The Superquinn version...I should be given the recipe to conduct lengthy consumer research..

Dr Bollocko · 10-06-2011 1:47am

you all need to cop yourselves on.
stop talking about biscuits and get a life.

ball · 10-06-2011 1:52am

Dr Bollocko wrote: »

you all need to cop yourselves on.
stop talking about biscuits and get a life.

You stole a mods name...

Naikon · 10-06-2011 2:19am

Cake

newballsplease · 10-06-2011 2:23am

Theres cocaine in them

Ruu_Old · 10-06-2011 2:27am

Biscakes!

/culchie

jimbob86 · 10-06-2011 2:28am

I's likes the toffo pops meself so i does....AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHAAA

Cú Giobach · 10-06-2011 8:29am

To all those poor deluded folks who think a Jafa Cake is a biscuit just because it's small, what would you call a 3cm wide Black Forest Gateaux?
A 20cm wide biscuit is a large biscuit but still a biscuit and a 3cm wide cake is a small but nonetheless still a cake.

sbsquarepants · 10-06-2011 8:49am

orourkeda wrote: »

Well done Stephen Fry. It stuck in at least one head.

What the hell are you talking about, Stephen Fry stuck it in loads of heads!:eek:

As for the Jaffa CAKES , well they are quite obviously cakes - it says so right on the box for god sake. They've been legally classed as cakes.
How many more clues do you people need?

Mrs Garth Brooks · 10-06-2011 10:10am

Jaffa cakes are cakes cause they go hard when stale?

What retard would leave jaffa cakes long enough in the press for it to go stale?

WIZE · 10-06-2011 4:56pm

cake

Do people here call bread Cake ?

It goes Hard when its stale but its not cake

ronaneire · 10-06-2011 4:58pm

WIZE wrote: »

Do people here call bread Cake ?

It goes Hard when its stale but its not cake

Yeah I have heard before people referring to soda bread as soda cake, odd but it's like a jaffa biscuit lol.

FTGFOP · 10-06-2011 5:24pm

WIZE wrote: »

Do people here call bread Cake ?

It goes Hard when its stale but its not cake

Knobcake. Hur hur.

Also:
You're taking the distinction out of context when you talk about bread being cake. The 'hardness when stale' criterion is only intended to distinguish cake from biscuits, not to define what cake is.

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