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Formula 1 2014: General Discussion Thread

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  • #2452
    _rebelkid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    TouchingVirus wrote: »
    This seems as good a place as any - has anybody been to Monza before and have they any tips? Just booked flights for that weekend, looking at the rest of the itinerary over the next few days

    Haven't been, but go to the track way too early. Traffic around there is the worst of the whole season.


  • #2453
    TouchingVirus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Yeah, we're getting the trains down early on Friday/Saturday/Sunday from Milan, not driving down to it as I heard it's a bit of a 'mare


  • #2454
    guyfo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭guyfo


    TouchingVirus wrote: »
    Yeah, we're getting the trains down early on Friday/Saturday/Sunday from Milan, not driving down to it as I heard it's a bit of a 'mare

    Be very careful in packed crowds, i know it probably wont happen but to you but i went back in 01. I was only 11 at the time so my dad took all our money and put it in his wallet with all the credit cards. On Sunday we were in an awning looking at the Ferrari and he got pick-pocketed, resulting in a fairly sh1t end to the weekend. So keep your money safe and keep a few notes in your bag!!

    Other than that if you don't have grandstand seats get there really early, we didn't and we couldn't really find anywhere to get up against the fence.

    Also there is a small free stand on the straight before Ascari, just after the cars cross underneath the old oval, i strongly suggest spending a session there. The cars are literally feet away absolutely flat out, it was amazing with the V10s id still say its impressive with the v6's


  • #2455
    ZiabR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Mike Litoris wrote: »
    How can you not like this guy :D


    dancing-ricciardo.gif

    What was that all about, anyone know?


  • #2456
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Mexican Grand Prix to return next season.

    I hope they will retain the current layout:

    Mexico%20City.gif


  • #2457
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I wonder who is getting the boot to fit it in.
    Article has Azerbaijan coming on board too, looks like a street circuit currently.


  • #2458
    _rebelkid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    Hungarian GP Race Thread.


  • #2459
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Saw this vid about the track in Mexico City and the modification it requires to host F1.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7wvx-8JBwA


  • #2460
    TheChrisD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Wow, I am seriously annoyed that they are going to butcher the track that horribly. Aside from the obvious annoyance of taking the stadium detour instead of Peraltada, what on earth are they doing at Turn 6? Removing all of the esses between there and Turn 9 and replacing it with a straight?
    image.png




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  • #2461
    losthorizon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    TheChrisD wrote: »
    Wow, I am seriously annoyed that they are going to butcher the track that horribly. Aside from the obvious annoyance of taking the stadium detour instead of Peraltada, what on earth are they doing at Turn 6? Removing all of the esses between there and Turn 9 and replacing it with a straight?

    Yeah, what I remember about the track was that it was hugely bumpy, Peraltada was spectacular and because Mexico City was at altitude engines kept expiring or not lasting the race.


  • #2462
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    It's because of that bumpiness that the FIA probably thought fit to renovate the track. As for cutting off the Peraltada, I'm guessing safety concerns were the culprit. IIRC it was slightly banked, unlike Monza's Curva Grande or Parabolica, so there's a risk that someone could go airborne if they took it too fast.

    EDIT: I only remember the Peraltada being banked because of a track mod for GTR2. :pac:


  • #2463
    Infoanon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    So Flav has been appointed to sort out F1s dwindling popularity problems ! Only in F1


  • #2464
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Infoanon wrote: »
    So Flav has been appointed to sort out F1s dwindling popularity problems ! Only in F1

    How to solve F1's dwindling popularity problems (in the UK at least) in 10 'easy' steps:

    1) Sack Hermann Tilke
    2) Get full & free F1 coverage back on the BBC, Sky F1 is mostly overpriced filler.
    3) Get rid of Suzy Perry, & get Jake Humphrey back involved
    4) Get rid of all the Tilke-dromes, & replace with historic, decent tracks
    5) The new engine noise while 'interesting', lacks any emotional impact...sort that out asap
    6) Get rid of two of the three practice sessions, a 1 hour session is all teams get to introduce uncertainty
    7) Lower prices of GP attendance, get those seats filled.
    8) Get more engine manufacturers involved, BMW, Toyota, Cosworth etc
    9) Clamp down on spending limit evasion (Red Bull Technology <-> Red Bull Racing etc)
    10) Sprinklers (:D)

    Joking aside, I've really enjoyed this season so far tbh. Yes Merc are dominant, but what's new about a dominant team in F1. At least it's a dominant team, & not a dominant driver...big difference. I've enjoyed the new cars, & how much of a handful they can be. The noise isn't a problem for me really, but when you hear back a few years it just makes you think "that's how they should sound!". Some great racing, & really enjoyable stuff for the most part.


  • #2465
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Sauber. What an awful season they are having. No points scored even though their drivers have been in points scoring positions in some races only to retire.

    I'm not a fan of the team, but it's sad to see them the way they are currently.


  • #2466
    Zcott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    They're really having a terrible time of it, but find me a team that hasn't endured a terrible season or two. Williams were in. A similar boat recently and now they're right up there, which is fantastic. Sauber could turn it around with the right people, but finding them is tough.


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  • #2467
    ZiabR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    It's because of that bumpiness that the FIA probably thought fit to renovate the track. As for cutting off the Peraltada, I'm guessing safety concerns were the culprit. IIRC it was slightly banked, unlike Monza's Curva Grande or Parabolica, so there's a risk that someone could go airborne if they took it too fast.

    EDIT: I only remember the Peraltada being banked because of a track mod for GTR2. :pac:

    I would agree with this, FIA are looking at this from a safety point of view only I think.


  • #2468
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Just to clarify, "Flav" as in Flavio Briatore?
    Jeeesus Christ.


  • #2469
    thirteen.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭thirteen.


    flazio wrote: »
    Just to clarify, "Flav" as in Flavio Briatore?
    Jeeesus Christ.

    The one and only.

    Did you not see the resemblance between the Seb & Perez spins and that of poor old Piquet Jr.?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZrCVbU6pWQ


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUpv3PWo1lE


    /runs


  • #2470
    Zcott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    thirteen. wrote: »
    The one and only.

    Did you not see the resemblance between the Seb & Perez spins and that of poor old Piquet Jr.?
    /runs

    I think you might possibly be stretching things there :D


  • #2471
    thirteen.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭thirteen.


    Zcott wrote: »
    I think you might possibly be stretching things there :D

    More believable than the Hamilton conspiracy :pac:


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  • #2472
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Even more cynical: Why do you think the FIA want generic ECU's? So Flav can pressed a button whenever he likes to make the show more interesting. Imagine getting paid to just press a button - jobs for the boys.

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



  • #2473
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,619 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Ted's Notebook: "Every team has to shut down, turn off the phones, emails and servers, and take a 2 week holiday."

    What does this mean? Is this an FIA rule?


  • #2474
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    I wonder does that rule extend to Red Bull Technology Ltd?


  • #2475
    Gillespy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Vettel won every race after last year's break.


  • #2476
    Ghost Train
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,382 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    I think it's just an agreement between the teams, save costs and let everyone recharge. While factory is closed I think other offices, marketing department etc can continue to do work

    If chassis needs to rebuilt between now and next race a team could apply for dispensation to allow a small team of workers do that

    here's some info from mclaren about it
    http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2012/Belgian-Grand-Prix/were-in-the-summer-shutdown/


  • #2477
    ZiabR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Sauber. What an awful season they are having. No points scored even though their drivers have been in points scoring positions in some races only to retire.

    I'm not a fan of the team, but it's sad to see them the way they are currently.

    While the car is very very poor, they have in my opinion two very poor drivers and this is not helping them.


  • #2478
    Zcott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Apparently standing safety car restarts won't be happening next year, German link:

    http://ams.to/KK


  • #2479
    Infoanon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Caterham now suing the employees who were dismissed and threatened to sue Caterham.

    Sounds like a team in self destruct mode - would not be surprised if Kobi is out before Spa.


  • #2480
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Marmorini departs Ferrari.

    So Marco Mattiacci has started wielding the axe. Rumours going around that Pat Fry has been fired too.


  • #2481
    ZiabR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Mark Hughes on Twitter today said the below... Thoughts?

    "So Bottas/Magnussen at McLaren 2015? Vandoorne in the wings. Leaving a Button-sized vacancy at Williams? Happy hols."


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  • #2482
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think Williams care about much other than money.


  • #2483
    Zcott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't think Williams care about much other than money.

    I don't know about that; they've been investing in the right people on the engineering side and I imagine that goes for drivers too. Neither Massa nor Bottas is a slouch.

    Besides, at this moment in time Williams is actually an upgrade for Button...


  • #2484
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zcott wrote: »
    I don't know about that; they've been investing in the right people on the engineering side and I imagine that goes for drivers too. Neither Massa nor Bottas is a slouch.

    Besides, at this moment in time Williams is actually an upgrade for Button...
    3 years of Maldonado says otherwise. :pac: Massa is only there because of the money he brings as well.


  • #2485
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Zcott wrote: »
    Besides, at this moment in time Williams is actually an upgrade for Button...

    How true is that. They're a total unknown for 2015 too, with the Honda engine deal. Is Massa confirmed at Williams for 2015, or could he end up out?


  • #2486
    thirteen.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭thirteen.


    I think Massa has a fairly long contract with Williams.


  • #2487
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It would be a shame for Williams to lose Bottas, he is getting fantastic results for them and there could be a win in there.


  • #2488
    Infoanon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Button is popular with Honda and would be a strong development driver which Mclaren will need next year, with ongoing internal strife a shake up at Mclaren in 2016 may be more likely.


  • #2489
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I don't see Williams letting go of Bottas to get Button.


  • #2490
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    If Williams keep going the way they are they could well be contenders next year, with Button in the car I just dont see it, he has been going off the boil the last year and a half, regardless of the car.


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  • #2491
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Gintonious wrote: »
    If Williams keep going the way they are they could well be contenders next year, with Button in the car I just dont see it, he has been going off the boil the last year and a half, regardless of the car.

    Where are you getting this from? When Perez moved to Mclaren for last season he was thought of as a seriously good driver, comfortably beaten by Button. Kevin Magussen has been talked about by guys like Ron Dennis as a future world champion, trailing Button 39:60 in points. Doesn't look gone off the boil to me.


  • #2492
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm sure I've said it elsewhere but I would've thought that Button was a big part of the Honda deal.


  • #2493
    Ghost Train
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,382 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    I think Button would be a good choice for one seat in a Honda McLaren, very experienced and solid, British driver. I don't think he'd be tied into the Honda McLaren deal but I imagine he's popular with Honda

    On the other side of things, given it was Whitmarsh who brought Jenson there he mightn't have as much support inside McLaren as he had before. I'm sure McLaren will be analysing performance of drivers, hopefully it doesn't go against Button and McLaren see the experience he has as something they need for next year


  • #2494
    Infoanon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Ghost Train wrote: »
    I think Button would be a good choice for one seat in a Honda McLaren, very experienced and solid, British driver. I don't think he'd be tied into the Honda McLaren deal but I imagine he's popular with Honda

    On the other side of things, given it was Whitmarsh who brought Jenson there he mightn't have as much support inside McLaren as he had before. I'm sure McLaren will be analysing performance of drivers, hopefully it doesn't go against Button and McLaren see the experience he has as something they need for next year

    Mansour Ojjeh is back at Mclaren and there are rumours that Rons days may be numbered. Ron brought in Kevin Magnussen.


  • #2495
    Zcott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Mansour Ojjeh is back at Mclaren and there are rumours that Rons days may be numbered. Ron brought in Kevin Magnussen.

    Either way, McLaren are in a transition period and will be for the next year or two. Button might be best upgrading to Williams.


  • #2496
    Sitec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    Here's a video I took at the last lap of the Hungaroring. What a race!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh3a13QQpYY


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  • #2497
    Zcott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Brilliant stuff, what a race to be at!


  • #2498
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    pulled from the Funny Gifs thread, when did this happen?
    wUd7WmC.gif


  • #2499
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    ^ That was at the 2010 Chinese GP.


  • #2500
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Jaime Alguersuari if I recall?


  • #2501
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Myrddin wrote: »
    Jaime Alguersuari if I recall?

    Nope. Sebastien Buemi.


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